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What is your opinion on toddlers?

Positive opinion (explain)
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15%
They're annoying, but tolerable.
22
40%
They're little demonspawn who only exist to cause misery and suffering.
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Total votes : 55

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:40 pm

Kowani wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Decektive?

No, that just sounds like defective.

Rather hard to mistake /tʃ/ for /f/ imo, but eh.
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Postby Pacomia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:41 pm

Kowani wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:You edited it out of a previous post, but you said you were 'around your age' in response to a poster saying they were 14...

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“Around” was broad. I edited it out because I decided I didn’t want everyone to know my age. I’m not 14, I’m somewhat close, though.
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Postby EastKekistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:20 pm

Some comments:

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2. It is indeed a bad idea for a guy to raise kids because women do intuitively like kids a lot more than men on average.
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Postby Raider Clans » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:29 pm

You guys are overreacting, they're not that bad.
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Postby Pacomia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:31 pm

Raider Clans wrote:You guys are overreacting, they're not that bad.

Some aren’t. Others are.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:33 pm

EastKekistan wrote:Some comments:

1. NSG folks are probably predominantly single males.

2. It is indeed a bad idea for a guy to raise kids because women do intuitively like kids a lot more than men on average.

Got any stats for that?
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:34 pm

Raider Clans wrote:You guys are overreacting, they're not that bad.

Some of them definitely are.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:39 pm

Some toddlers are okay, but then you get the real brats that ruin it for the rest of them. I especially hate the real bratty toddlers whose shithead parents actively go out of their to avoid looking after them. Those toddlers are the worst. Those parents need to be disciplined. If I had to work with toddlers, I'd go insane. And that's before considering my almost zero tolerance for noise
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:44 pm

EastKekistan wrote:Some comments:

1. NSG folks are probably predominantly single males.

2. It is indeed a bad idea for a guy to raise kids because women do intuitively like kids a lot more than men on average.

As much as I hate kids, I know a woman who hates them more than I do. She hates them to the point where her hatred of kids alone is preventing her from having any of her own. I don't hate them that much. I also know men who absolutely adore kids (in a non-paedophile way. The fact that I had to clarify that is what's wrong with society). Stupid steryotypes like this are the reason why the family court system is disgustingly bias against fathers
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Postby Recidivism » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:44 pm

I honestly feel like you could get a handle on any toddler that doesn't have developmental issues.

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Postby The Realm of Platinum » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:47 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:Some comments:

1. NSG folks are probably predominantly single males.

2. It is indeed a bad idea for a guy to raise kids because women do intuitively like kids a lot more than men on average.

As much as I hate kids, I know a woman who hates them more than I do. She hates them to the point where her hatred of kids alone is preventing her from having any of her own. I don't hate them that much. I also know men who absolutely adore kids (in a non-paedophile way. The fact that I had to clarify that is what's wrong with society). Stupid steryotypes like this are the reason why the family court system is disgustingly bias against fathers

Dude, if my family was broken up, I hope my father gets custody of us all.

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Postby EastKekistan » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:22 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:Some comments:

1. NSG folks are probably predominantly single males.

2. It is indeed a bad idea for a guy to raise kids because women do intuitively like kids a lot more than men on average.

As much as I hate kids, I know a woman who hates them more than I do. She hates them to the point where her hatred of kids alone is preventing her from having any of her own. I don't hate them that much. I also know men who absolutely adore kids (in a non-paedophile way. The fact that I had to clarify that is what's wrong with society). Stupid steryotypes like this are the reason why the family court system is disgustingly bias against fathers


There are many feminist lies. For example division of community property in family courts during divorces is really legalized robbery no.matter what feminists say. Moreover life is really anti-male no matter what feminists say. However this one seems to be true. Unless you can argue that the average men behave drastically different from the average men here the claim stays. It is MRAs who are lying here. As usual both sides lie for self-interest maximization. I call out everyone's bullshit no matter which side they are on.

Am I suddenly the most feminist person on NSG? Lol wut?

What's particularly funny is that even some usually soc liberal guys occasionally vote with their gender identity, not their politics..which is evidence that my hypothesis of a Hobbesian world is probably correct. Ideologies are just tools for self-interest maximization while appearing altruistic. Lol.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:47 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:As much as I hate kids, I know a woman who hates them more than I do. She hates them to the point where her hatred of kids alone is preventing her from having any of her own. I don't hate them that much. I also know men who absolutely adore kids (in a non-paedophile way. The fact that I had to clarify that is what's wrong with society). Stupid steryotypes like this are the reason why the family court system is disgustingly bias against fathers


There are many feminist lies. For example division of community property in family courts during divorces is really legalized robbery no.matter what feminists say. Moreover life is really anti-male no matter what feminists say. However this one seems to be true. Unless you can argue that the average men behave drastically different from the average men here the claim stays. It is MRAs who are lying here. As usual both sides lie for self-interest maximization. I call out everyone's bullshit no matter which side they are on.

Am I suddenly the most feminist person on NSG? Lol wut?

What's particularly funny is that even some usually soc liberal guys occasionally vote with their gender identity, not their politics..which is evidence that my hypothesis of a Hobbesian world is probably correct. Ideologies are just tools for self-interest maximization while appearing altruistic. Lol.

Today's word of the day- "steryotype"
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Postby EastKekistan » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:49 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:
There are many feminist lies. For example division of community property in family courts during divorces is really legalized robbery no.matter what feminists say. Moreover life is really anti-male no matter what feminists say. However this one seems to be true. Unless you can argue that the average men behave drastically different from the average men here the claim stays. It is MRAs who are lying here. As usual both sides lie for self-interest maximization. I call out everyone's bullshit no matter which side they are on.

Am I suddenly the most feminist person on NSG? Lol wut?

What's particularly funny is that even some usually soc liberal guys occasionally vote with their gender identity, not their politics..which is evidence that my hypothesis of a Hobbesian world is probably correct. Ideologies are just tools for self-interest maximization while appearing altruistic. Lol.

Today's word of the day- "steryotype"

Have you realized that you are essentially using modified SJW reasoning?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:50 am

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:08 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Today's word of the day- "steryotype"

Have you realized that you are essentially using modified SJW reasoning?

Okay fine. Here's a better argument. Many of us don't actually hate kids. We just have a lower tollerance for ill-behaved rat bags than many women. And most kids who are ill-behaved rat bags are rat bags because their mothers (in my experience, it's almost always the mum) lets them run a muck whilst doing absolutely jack shit to atop them. There are many well-behaved toddlers who I absolutely adore (once again, in a non-peadophile manner) Most men love their own children, to death, but despise the children of mothers who let their kids run wild. Who's a worse parent? The father who loves his kids but despises the kids who run a muck because their mothers let them? Now, who's a worse parent? The mother who doesn't supervise her kid? Or the father who deapises the mothers of unsupervised kids. Now, the vast, vast majority of mothers will supervise their children, and should be commended for that, but if you're comparing the (mostly) childless community of NationStates to most, or even many, fathers, anything is free gain I guess...
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Postby The Realm of Platinum » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:17 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:Have you realized that you are essentially using modified SJW reasoning?

Okay fine. Here's a better argument. Many of us don't actually hate kids. We just have a lower tollerance for ill-behaved rat bags than many women. And most kids who are ill-behaved rat bags are rat bags because their mothers (in my experience, it's almost always the mum) lets them run a muck whilst doing absolutely jack shit to atop them. There are many well-behaved toddlers who I absolutely adore (once again, in a non-peadophile manner) Most men love their own children, to death, but despise the children of mothers who let their kids run wild. Who's a worse parent? The father who loves his kids but despises the kids who run a muck because their mothers let them? Now, who's a worse parent? The mother who doesn't supervise her kid? Or the father who deapises the mothers of unsupervised kids. Now, the vast, vast majority of mothers will supervise their children, and should be commended for that, but if you're comparing the (mostly) childless community of NationStates to most, or even many, fathers, anything is free gain I guess...

Fathers, because they don't scream "LE PHONE BAD"

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:31 am

The Realm of Platinum wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Okay fine. Here's a better argument. Many of us don't actually hate kids. We just have a lower tollerance for ill-behaved rat bags than many women. And most kids who are ill-behaved rat bags are rat bags because their mothers (in my experience, it's almost always the mum) lets them run a muck whilst doing absolutely jack shit to atop them. There are many well-behaved toddlers who I absolutely adore (once again, in a non-peadophile manner) Most men love their own children, to death, but despise the children of mothers who let their kids run wild. Who's a worse parent? The father who loves his kids but despises the kids who run a muck because their mothers let them? Now, who's a worse parent? The mother who doesn't supervise her kid? Or the father who deapises the mothers of unsupervised kids. Now, the vast, vast majority of mothers will supervise their children, and should be commended for that, but if you're comparing the (mostly) childless community of NationStates to most, or even many, fathers, anything is free gain I guess...

Fathers, because they don't scream "LE PHONE BAD"

What are you bloody talking about? I've seen a kid who had been left alone in the McDonalds playground, whilst the mother, who was on the opposite side of the resturant, completely oblivious to the fact that her kid had climbed to the roof, as she was unable to see them from where she was, whilst the kid was on the roof for atleast half an hour. Those are the kinds of mothers I was talking about, but the less extreme versions
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Postby The Realm of Platinum » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:38 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
The Realm of Platinum wrote:Fathers, because they don't scream "LE PHONE BAD"

What are you bloody talking about? I've seen a kid who had been left alone in the McDonalds playground, whilst the mother, who was on the opposite side of the resturant, completely oblivious to the fact that her kid had climbed to the roof, as she was unable to see them from where she was, whilst the kid was on the roof for atleast half an hour. Those are the kinds of mothers I was talking about, but the less extreme versions

Yes.
That's why you should give custody to fathers.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:51 am

The Realm of Platinum wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:What are you bloody talking about? I've seen a kid who had been left alone in the McDonalds playground, whilst the mother, who was on the opposite side of the resturant, completely oblivious to the fact that her kid had climbed to the roof, as she was unable to see them from where she was, whilst the kid was on the roof for atleast half an hour. Those are the kinds of mothers I was talking about, but the less extreme versions

Yes.
That's why you should give custody to fathers.

This is a tiny minority of mothers. You should give custody to whoever looks after the kid
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Postby The Realm of Platinum » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:53 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
The Realm of Platinum wrote:Yes.
That's why you should give custody to fathers.

This is a tiny minority of mothers. You should give custody to whoever looks after the kid

yes, and fathers have higher wages that would help that

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:55 am

The Realm of Platinum wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:This is a tiny minority of mothers. You should give custody to whoever looks after the kid

yes, and fathers have higher wages that would help that

Here we go with that gender wage gap bullshit. You do realise that there are more long term unemployed men and underemployed men than women, and as one of those long term unemployed men, bullshit about the gender wage bullshit isn't helping
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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:55 am

Ohioan Territory wrote:The sound of a crying toddler is my least favorite sound. Ever. It's not annoying, but highly disturbing. Gives me chills.

That's a healthy response to that stimulus. If humans weren't disturbed and stressed by a baby crying, humans would have a lesser chance of survival as a species.
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Postby The Realm of Platinum » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:00 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
The Realm of Platinum wrote:yes, and fathers have higher wages that would help that

Here we go with that gender wage gap bullshit. You do realise that there are more long term unemployed men and underemployed men than women, and as one of those long term unemployed men, bullshit about the gender wage bullshit isn't helping

It's a choice, mostly.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:04 am

The Realm of Platinum wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Here we go with that gender wage gap bullshit. You do realise that there are more long term unemployed men and underemployed men than women, and as one of those long term unemployed men, bullshit about the gender wage bullshit isn't helping

It's a choice, mostly.

Once again, bullshit. Thank you for making completely false assumptions about my financial situation
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