What would God have to do to convince YOU of His existence?

[The New California Republic]

First, God would have to convince us of His existance, and then, as a natural consequence, all wrong religions die afterward

The mere existence of God in and of itself, depending on the doctrine of the religions in question, doesn't necessarily make other religions wrong though; more so if said religions are monotheistic.

[Australian rePublic]

Unless, when accusing me of strawmaning, you were in fact, refering to that one specific sentence that you quoted.

Yes, I was. Quite clearly.

And if you were refering to that one specific sentence, well in that case, then I have to give you credit. It takes a lot of effort to read an hour rant, find a badly worded sarcastic sentence, take it out of context and use it to accuse me of a strawman.

The strawman was poking out from the rest of the field, it really wasn't difficult to notice it.

So instead of addressing the entire field, you addresa the little corner where the weeds grow?

[The New California Republic]

So instead of addressing the entire field, you addresa the little corner where the weeds grow?

I pointed out the part of the field that seemed the most rotten, if that's what you mean.

[New Raffica]

Let the Canucks win a draft lottery

[Australian rePublic]

It's silly to only believe if clear evidence is presented?

No, not really. I was just commenting on the oddly specific ways someone would believe in a god.

Like "Oh, if you give me 500 dollars right now, I will believe in you". To me, that just sounds like if God did anything else they would not believe in them. "Oh, you only gave me 499 dollars? God doesn't exist".

Correct. Which goes back to my original point- God isn't anyone's personal genie

[Australian rePublic]

end poverty, end all world suffering, remove all elements of fascism and alt-right from society, and make the Tories not terrible at everything

...also giving me a million pounds wouldn't go amiss

Which goes against free will

[Australian rePublic]

Okay, so, the God, all powerful in all places at all times? Pretty simple, if he or she can do everything, I would need him or her to create a place on Earth where he or she can do nothing at all

Cannot contradict Himself

[Australian rePublic]

So instead of addressing the entire field, you addresa the little corner where the weeds grow?

I pointed out the part of the field that seemed the most rotten, if that's what you mean.

Yea, and you judge the entire field on it

[The New California Republic]

I pointed out the part of the field that seemed the most rotten, if that's what you mean.

Yea, and you judge the entire field on it

Point out where I compared and judged the other content of your post in relation to the one line I pointed out. Please. Try.

I'll save you some time: it doesn't exist.

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

Supernatural Events ('ghost')

You see, my environment is pretty superstitious. Nobody believes in ghost, but everyone believe in the existence of spirits/genies. Why? Because the religion says they exist.

Now, it seems like a lot of my friend and family know someone who is 'indigo' (i.e can see spirits and their body, talk to them, etc). I don't know any, dunno why, and if I had one I would've extract as much information as I can until they die dry. The usage, communication, and contracts of spiritd seems commonplace, heck my mom's uncle is a dark wizard (those who work with spirits) and my grandma asked him to placed a magical dome around her house to 'protect it from thieves'. No, really.

So if I can get an undebatable proof of the existence of these kinds of things (better yet learn the mechanics), then I would have proof of the unseen world and His out-of-human-science creations, which means the Holy Scriptures is correct, and I would convert back to my original religion ASAP.

I think this (the supernatural world) is the most logical, rational, and easiest way to consistently observe the supernatural part of the world. I mean, spirits are supposed reveal themselves in various ways to haunt and disturb you.

[UniversalCommons]

The existence of god does not disprove the concept of enlightenment. Depending on how you see it, you could become enlightened whether there was a god or no god. There are other ideas. You could also create the perfect painting, perfection in beauty and any of a variety of different philosophical or religious concepts.

I would have to have a revelatory experience that could not be duplicated by my thinking capabilities or mind altering substances. Something unduplicatable. Something like Moses getting the 10 Commandments in an instant.

[Reru Tanda]

For God to convince me he exists, he'd have to give me a girlfriend.

Nothing so far.

[Ifreann]

I still don't know what possible evidence could be given that an entity, whatever magical powers it displays, is in fact the deity described in the Bible.

Taking me on a timetraveltrip and showing his work would do. For me.

How could you know that what you were seeing is real if you're dealing with some entity that can do seemingly impossible things?

[Neanderthaland]

I pointed out the part of the field that seemed the most rotten, if that's what you mean.

Yea, and you judge the entire field on it

It's like standing up in a court of law and saying, "well you would focus on the robberies, wouldn't you?! You never mention that I call my mother on her birthday!"

Yeah, people tend to focus on the parts of your arguments that they take issue with. That's normal.

[Neanderthaland]

Okay, so, the God, all powerful in all places at all times? Pretty simple, if he or she can do everything, I would need him or her to create a place on Earth where he or she can do nothing at all

Cannot contradict Himself

This god is not all-powerful. And to prove that you need only imagine a god with all the powers that your god has, but that can also contradict itself. That god is more powerful than your god.

[Kowani]

end poverty, end all world suffering, remove all elements of fascism and alt-right from society, and make the Tories not terrible at everything

...also giving me a million pounds wouldn't go amiss

Which goes against free will

Why is Free Will such an inherent good that all else must be tolerated for it?

[The Free Joy State]

end poverty, end all world suffering, remove all elements of fascism and alt-right from society, and make the Tories not terrible at everything

...also giving me a million pounds wouldn't go amiss

Which goes against free will

Actually, I would like to know how ending poverty would contradict free will. Let's just start with that.

It's easy to put out blanket statements, but I would like you to explain how ending poverty -- specifically how ensuring food grows plentifully and freely, that the basic things people need to live are widely available -- would contravene free will.

Or take disease... Many diseases are caused by gene mutations, or by biological factors. Why would God intervening so biology related diseases cannot occur interfere with human will -- and don't say "eugenics"; people would be able to reproduce with the partners they chose freely -- still be able to drink, smoke, get in a car, go paragliding, eat junk food, do all those things that increase risk factors -- they just wouldn't fear a random genetic quirk would cause their offspring pain.

So, why would God intervening to remove hunger and remove the possibility for biology-related disease to occur be removing free will?

[Dylar]

Which goes against free will

Why is Free Will such an inherent good that all else must be tolerated for it?

It gives you a choice to follow God or not, and a choice to do good or evil. See, God wants us to choose to follow him since imo it would be more meaningful to us and Him if we chose to follow Him rather than have God choose us.

[Kowani]

Why is Free Will such an inherent good that all else must be tolerated for it?

It gives you a choice to follow God or not, and a choice to do good or evil. See, God wants us to choose to follow him since imo it would be more meaningful to us and Him if we chose to follow Him rather than have God choose us.

I thought we couldn’t know God’s Will?

[The Blaatschapen]

Any god could convince me of their existence by abolishing all religion with the snap of her fingers

But that would require abolishment of free will. Besides, you have it in the wrong order. First, God would have to convince us of His existance, and then, as a natural consequence, all wrong religions die afterward

Which is likely all of them. (and some more than others, *looks at Scientology*)

Good that we agree on something

[Kremlinian Russia]

Hold Tim Sweeny at gunpoint and force him to take down the fortnite servers and I'll consider you a god.

That and collect the years of small children who play fortnite for me to drink.

[DARGLED]

I do not know. God should.

[Bombadil]

Why is Free Will such an inherent good that all else must be tolerated for it?

It gives you a choice to follow God or not, and a choice to do good or evil. See, God wants us to choose to follow him since imo it would be more meaningful to us and Him if we chose to follow Him rather than have God choose us.

The sort of choice where a kidnapper says 'give me all your money or I'll kill your child'.

Love me or go to hell.

Except it's not even the kidnapper, it's a bunch of people saying 'give us your money because this kidnapper we can't provide proof exists will apparently kill your child'.

It's a choice, free will's great.

[Satuga]

Easy, show himself or herself(who the fuck knows) and do something illogical(walk on water, float in the air, create something out of thin air, etc).

Also I respect everyone's religion, but it always urks me when someone sort of blindly follows a religion without even questioning it. Like I understand believing in a higher power but why is it that you can't question the existence or caring of god?

FYI, I'm on the fence of atheist or theist simply because there isn't currently any proof of a god, however the statistical improbability of our existence is quite alarming. Also I absolutely don't believe in the bible or religious texts as there's no real way of telling if someone simply created the bible or if it truly was made by some god.

[Wunderstrafanstalt]

It gives you a choice to follow God or not, and a choice to do good or evil. See, God wants us to choose to follow him since imo it would be more meaningful to us and Him if we chose to follow Him rather than have God choose us.

The sort of choice where a kidnapper says 'give me all your money or I'll kill your child'.

Love me or go to hell.

Except it's not even the kidnapper, it's a bunch of people saying 'give us your money because this kidnapper we can't provide proof exists will apparently kill your child'.

It's a choice, free will's great.

Faced with an omnipotent kidnapper, I choose total submission anytime if there is evidence that such kidnapper exist.

The horrific eternal torture are there to control the superstitious peasants for a reason, y'know.