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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 09, 2019 7:50 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:2400 pounds of downforce. What more do you want?


Less forward drag? But I guess if you are into drifting you do not really care as much about drag.

How in the fuck are you drifting with that much downforce? Or why?
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Postby Novus America » Thu May 09, 2019 8:01 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
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Less forward drag? But I guess if you are into drifting you do not really care as much about drag.

How in the fuck are you drifting with that much downforce? Or why?


You would not be generating that much downforce at drifting speeds.
But I do not know, honestly that whole concept is pretty bizarre to me.

If you want maximum downforce at the cost of the forward drag of a pick up?
I mean I am sure you can get great downforce from a less ungainly design though.

Though it seems the focus is not really performance. The ten foot long tail pipe in that video has what purpose exactly?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 09, 2019 8:04 pm

Novus America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:How in the fuck are you drifting with that much downforce? Or why?


You would not be generating that much downforce at drifting speeds.
But I do not know, honestly that whole concept is pretty bizarre to me.

If you want maximum downforce at the cost of the forward drag of a pick up?
I mean I am sure you can get great downforce from a less ungainly design though.

Well, you have 800 hp, so...

And again, you're trying to look at this car like you'd buy a station wagon.
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Postby Novus America » Thu May 09, 2019 8:11 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
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You would not be generating that much downforce at drifting speeds.
But I do not know, honestly that whole concept is pretty bizarre to me.

If you want maximum downforce at the cost of the forward drag of a pick up?
I mean I am sure you can get great downforce from a less ungainly design though.

Well, you have 800 hp, so...

And again, you're trying to look at this car like you'd buy a station wagon.


Well looking at that Japanese video and that one car with a ten foot tail pipe, it seems the look is more important than pure performance anyways I guess.
But yeah, clearly the whole thing is completely lost on me.
I just do not get it.

But each to their own.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 09, 2019 8:18 pm

Novus America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Well, you have 800 hp, so...

And again, you're trying to look at this car like you'd buy a station wagon.


Well looking at that Japanese video and that one car with a ten foot tail pipe, it seems the look is more important than pure performance anyways I guess.
But yeah, clearly the whole thing is completely lost on me.
I just do not get it.

But each to their own.

The Gruppe5 should not be confused with a Bosozuki car. The Gruppe5 is really an attempt to make a race car with license plates, which is why it's built on a car that already is road legal. Bosozuki is just Japan being Japan and adding bonkers aesthetic mods to make their cars look like cartoon versions of Group 5 race cars from the 80s.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Thu May 09, 2019 8:27 pm

For some reason I thought this said The General Car Theft. Almost lost it.

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Postby Novus America » Thu May 09, 2019 8:34 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
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Well looking at that Japanese video and that one car with a ten foot tail pipe, it seems the look is more important than pure performance anyways I guess.
But yeah, clearly the whole thing is completely lost on me.
I just do not get it.

But each to their own.

The Gruppe5 should not be confused with a Bosozuki car. The Gruppe5 is really an attempt to make a race car with license plates, which is why it's built on a car that already is road legal. Bosozuki is just Japan being Japan and adding bonkers aesthetic mods to make their cars look like cartoon versions of Group 5 race cars from the 80s.


Still the Gruppe5 is keeping that shape. Sure the Japanese are pure parody, while this actually does try to get performance as well. But is this the best body for the job?
Or because it has a certain look?
Sure you need A used body for the legal stuff but you have plenty to choose from.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 09, 2019 8:48 pm

Novus America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The Gruppe5 should not be confused with a Bosozuki car. The Gruppe5 is really an attempt to make a race car with license plates, which is why it's built on a car that already is road legal. Bosozuki is just Japan being Japan and adding bonkers aesthetic mods to make their cars look like cartoon versions of Group 5 race cars from the 80s.


Still the Gruppe5 is keeping that shape. Sure the Japanese are pure parody, while this actually does try to get performance as well. But is this the best body for the job?
Or because it has a certain look?
Sure you need A used body for the legal stuff but you have plenty to choose from.

You're really over thinking this.
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Postby Lamborghini Aventador » Fri May 10, 2019 7:16 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Still the Gruppe5 is keeping that shape. Sure the Japanese are pure parody, while this actually does try to get performance as well. But is this the best body for the job?
Or because it has a certain look?
Sure you need A used body for the legal stuff but you have plenty to choose from.

You're really over thinking this.

road legal race cars are really fun but dangerous though because they have too much power and weren't intenedd to go that slow on roads

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri May 10, 2019 9:54 am

Lamborghini Aventador wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You're really over thinking this.

road legal race cars are really fun but dangerous though because they have too much power and weren't intenedd to go that slow on roads

I'm...I'm just going to take a moment to appreciate that this was written by someone who named their account "Lamborghini Avenatador"...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri May 10, 2019 11:32 am

Speaking of race cars, looking over the entry list for the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Looks like all the action is in GT again. Toyota is essentially running unopposed in LMP1 for the second year as Audi and Porsche have packed up and gone home. Really would have liked to see them turn the 919 into a customer race car like the 962.

In GT Ford has four entries over two teams as does Porsche. Most of the Ferrari efforts are in GTE Am. Less variety this year too with BMW, Corvette, and Aston Martin completing the field.

Kind of surprised that both Jorg Bergmeister and Patrick Long are in GTE Am teams and not the factory GTE Pro cars.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri May 10, 2019 11:58 am

Elwher wrote:(Image)

Amen.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri May 10, 2019 2:49 pm

Elwher wrote:(Image)

Should I count it as a blessing to get this in my search for a cheap automatic car?
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Kind of looks like a two door Charger.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri May 10, 2019 6:01 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Elwher wrote:(Image)

Should I count it as a blessing to get this in my search for a cheap automatic car?

You might have to start a death metal band.
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri May 10, 2019 6:29 pm

They may be selling the Lordstown Ohio plant to a maker of electric trucks.

This would salvage a thousand jobs.

Electric trucks are a great idea because a corporation can manage fleet recharging much more easily than can one household. It would be an economic boon to the fleet, and maybe to Amazon?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri May 10, 2019 6:37 pm

Pope Joan wrote:They may be selling the Lordstown Ohio plant to a maker of electric trucks.

This would salvage a thousand jobs.

Electric trucks are a great idea because a corporation can manage fleet recharging much more easily than can one household. It would be an economic boon to the fleet, and maybe to Amazon?

I'm waiting for the tech to get cheap enough and easy to maintain and produce that we get self driving mail trucks so deliverer in a suburb is doing that house to house in a neighborhood without mailboxes and the truck just follows him around.
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Postby Elwher » Fri May 10, 2019 10:21 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Elwher wrote:(Image)

Should I count it as a blessing to get this in my search for a cheap automatic car?


I suppose one might consider it a dead end.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri May 10, 2019 10:24 pm

Elwher wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Should I count it as a blessing to get this in my search for a cheap automatic car?


I suppose one might consider it a dead end.

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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri May 10, 2019 11:34 pm

Elwher wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Should I count it as a blessing to get this in my search for a cheap automatic car?


I suppose one might consider it a dead end.

I wasn't dead serious anyway.
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Postby Elwher » Sat May 11, 2019 12:55 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Elwher wrote:
I suppose one might consider it a dead end.

I wasn't dead serious anyway.


Good thing. Buying one could be a grave undertaking.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 11, 2019 4:19 am

Elwher wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:I wasn't dead serious anyway.


Good thing. Buying one could be a grave undertaking.

I heard that the motor tends to die on you.
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Postby Elwher » Sat May 11, 2019 8:34 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Good thing. Buying one could be a grave undertaking.

I heard that the motor tends to die on you.


This is a vehicle I think I would pass on.
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