Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

[Farburg]

No amount of hormones or surgery can turn you into made up gender.

Wow, that's an edgy hot take right there.

It’s true, I’ll never be a splooshymaggle

[Philjia]

Identifying with a gender other than the one assigned at birth? Seems pretty trans to me.

No amount of hormones or surgery can turn you into made up gender.

Surgery and hormones can only make you into a rough approximation of the opposite sex anyway, and if being closer to what you want to be makes you happier, why not give it a go?

[The New California Republic]

Identifying with a gender other than the one assigned at birth? Seems pretty trans to me.

No amount of hormones or surgery can turn you into made up gender.

So male and female are made up?

[Valrifell]

Wow, that's an edgy hot take right there.

It’s true, I’ll never be a splooshymaggle

Petition to rename trans folk to "splooshymaggles" please

[Neutraligon]

Gender dysphoria is not a prerequisite to be trans, not being your assigned gender at birth is the definition. Dysphoria is a bug, not a feature. A lot of people forget that gender euphoria and that was a more motivating factor in discovering my gender than dysphoria, I thought I wasn't dysphoric enough, that was the cost of transmedicalism.

I do plan to do one aspect of medical transitioning, but that doesn't make me trans, being something other male makes me trans.

I say most of mine is social, I want to feminize my body a bit, but have no desire to pass as or be a binary gender. I like being transfeminine and non-binary and feel euphoria from my gender.

Non-Binary isn’t Transgender

It is always nice to learn I do not exist.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Non-Binary isn’t Transgender

It is always nice to learn I do not exist.

Many people who aren't transgender do exist, allegedly.

[Hanafuridake]

Non-Binary isn’t Transgender

It is always nice to learn I do not exist.

Well, you are Batman.

[Hanafuridake]

Me: *passes*
Rando: You're flat for someone your age.

This actually happened, except I didn't physically punch them. Just really wanted to.

[Vassenor]

Me: *passes*
Rando: You're flat for someone your age.

(Image)

This actually happened, except I didn't physically punch them. Just really wanted to.

#flatisjustice

[Farburg]

Non-Binary isn’t Transgender

You exist, it’s just your either a man or woman who’s pretending to be neither.
It is always nice to learn I do not exist.

[Vassenor]

You exist, it’s just your either a man or woman who’s pretending to be neither.
It is always nice to learn I do not exist.

Or you know, you could try not lecturing people on their own experiences.

[Neutraligon]

You exist, it’s just your either a man or woman who’s pretending to be neither.

As far as gender is concerned nope. I am neither a man nor a woman. It is always interesting to learn that complete strangers apparently know my own mind better than I do.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Me: *passes*
Rando: You're flat for someone your age.

(Image)

This actually happened, except I didn't physically punch them. Just really wanted to.

#flatisjustice

Meanwhile I'm over here having to buy baggy clothes to avoid squashed boobies.

[Ifreann]

Identifying with a gender other than the one assigned at birth? Seems pretty trans to me.

No amount of hormones or surgery can turn you into made up gender.

That depends how one defines that gender, doesn't it?

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No amount of hormones or surgery can turn you into made up gender.

So male and female are made up?

I mean.

Yes?

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It is always nice to learn I do not exist.

Many people who aren't transgender do exist, allegedly.

Can't fool me, DI, I know you're not real.

[Salus Maior]

You exist, it’s just your either a man or woman who’s pretending to be neither.

As far as gender is concerned nope. I am neither a man nor a woman. It is always interesting to learn that complete strangers apparently know my own mind better than I do.

My question is, and it's a sincere one, is what does feeling like a "man" or a "woman" feel like? Especially if you've only ever been one or the other sexually speaking.

I don't really feel anything as a "man", except hungry frequently.

[Ifreann]

As far as gender is concerned nope. I am neither a man nor a woman. It is always interesting to learn that complete strangers apparently know my own mind better than I do.

My question is, and it's a sincere one, is what does feeling like a "man" or a "woman" feel like? Especially if you've only ever been one or the other sexually speaking.

I don't really feel anything as a "man", except hungry frequently.

Do you feel like dressing up in a silly costume to fight crime? You may be non-binary. Or Batman.

[Cekoviu]

As far as gender is concerned nope. I am neither a man nor a woman. It is always interesting to learn that complete strangers apparently know my own mind better than I do.

My question is, and it's a sincere one, is what does feeling like a "man" or a "woman" feel like? Especially if you've only ever been one or the other sexually speaking.

I don't really feel anything as a "man", except hungry frequently.

That's something that causes confusion for a lot of cis people, and I understand how someone who hasn't felt a fundamental disconnect doesn't notice the presence of an identity. It's very hard to strictly identify what it is that makes one feel like a man, woman, bigender, etc. other than it being an unconscious feeling that you just have.

[Kowani]

Identifying with a gender other than the one assigned at birth? Seems pretty trans to me.

No amount of hormones or surgery can turn you into made up gender.

Gender’s a social construct, anyway.

[Cekoviu]

No amount of hormones or surgery can turn you into made up gender.

Gender’s a social construct, anyway.

No it is not, and saying it is is unwittingly (or intentionally) providing a basis for transphobia.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Me: *passes*
Rando: You're flat for someone your age.

(Image)

This actually happened, except I didn't physically punch them. Just really wanted to.

And that person grew up to be me!

...Because this reminds me of my own clueless crudeness.

[Gremand]

Gender’s a social construct, anyway.

No it is not, and saying it is is unwittingly (or intentionally) providing a basis for transphobia.

It can be both a social construct and not controllable at the same time. Not all social construct arguments are rooted in unwitting or intentional bases of transphobia, or else i'm simply extremely transphobic without realizing it. Tho transphobia and money are both social concepts as well, as well as the idea of a snake, so it's pretty useless to construct gender as a social construct, except in the ways it is useful, such as recognizing the complexity of identity and the manners that one cannot control their very basic things such as the self, which, as it stands, is also a social construct- there is no absolute difference between me and you, we are one and the same.

Tldr, gender is a social construct, but so is everything else so whomst really be knowing.

[Auzkhia]

Gender dysphoria is not a prerequisite to be trans, not being your assigned gender at birth is the definition. Dysphoria is a bug, not a feature. A lot of people forget that gender euphoria and that was a more motivating factor in discovering my gender than dysphoria, I thought I wasn't dysphoric enough, that was the cost of transmedicalism.

I do plan to do one aspect of medical transitioning, but that doesn't make me trans, being something other male makes me trans.

I say most of mine is social, I want to feminize my body a bit, but have no desire to pass as or be a binary gender. I like being transfeminine and non-binary and feel euphoria from my gender.

Non-Binary isn’t Transgender

Transgender, adjective, "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex."
Sounds transgender to me, and I am. If you have a medicalist take, I am medically transitioning, but even if I were not, I'd still be trans. Only way a non-binary person can't be trans? If they were assigned that at birth and still identified with that. As long I'm not my AGAB, I am trans.

You exist, it’s just your either a man or woman who’s pretending to be neither.

As far as gender is concerned nope. I am neither a man nor a woman. It is always interesting to learn that complete strangers apparently know my own mind better than I do.

Funny that, gatekeepers pretend to be experts on other people's lives. Only you can be the expert of you.

Gender’s a social construct, anyway.

No it is not, and saying it is is unwittingly (or intentionally) providing a basis for transphobia.

Race isn't real (biologically, at least), but racism is. Gender is similar in that way, and so gender has no essential element to exist, but sexism and transphobia exist. Gender only exists because we live in a society.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Non-Binary isn’t Transgender

Transgender, adjective, "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex."
Sounds transgender to me, and I am. If you have a medicalist take, I am medically transitioning, but even if I were not, I'd still be trans. Only way a non-binary person can't be trans? If they were assigned that at birth and still identified with that. As long I'm not my AGAB, I am trans.

As far as gender is concerned nope. I am neither a man nor a woman. It is always interesting to learn that complete strangers apparently know my own mind better than I do.

Funny that, gatekeepers pretend to be experts on other people's lives. Only you can be the expert of you.

No it is not, and saying it is is unwittingly (or intentionally) providing a basis for transphobia.

Race isn't real (biologically, at least), but racism is. Gender is similar in that way, and so gender has no essential element to exist, but sexism and transphobia exist. Gender only exists because we live in a society.

You do realize that literally everything is a human construct, right?

After all, how do we truly know if time exists or if a snake is really called a snake?

[Auzkhia]

Transgender, adjective, "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex."
Sounds transgender to me, and I am. If you have a medicalist take, I am medically transitioning, but even if I were not, I'd still be trans. Only way a non-binary person can't be trans? If they were assigned that at birth and still identified with that. As long I'm not my AGAB, I am trans.

Funny that, gatekeepers pretend to be experts on other people's lives. Only you can be the expert of you.

Race isn't real (biologically, at least), but racism is. Gender is similar in that way, and so gender has no essential element to exist, but sexism and transphobia exist. Gender only exists because we live in a society.

You do realize that literally everything is a human construct, right?

After all, how do we truly know if time exists or if a snake is really called a snake?

I know, even with people's pets, my parents assign a gender to pets based on the traditional sex-gender system idea, yet the dog has no idea what it means, or the cats. That again is a very human thing to, labelling things and beings based on what that human believes in. It matters because people agree it matters as a basis to socialize with each other, part of the simian rituals, and lots of animals have ways of communication.

[Neutraligon]

As far as gender is concerned nope. I am neither a man nor a woman. It is always interesting to learn that complete strangers apparently know my own mind better than I do.

My question is, and it's a sincere one, is what does feeling like a "man" or a "woman" feel like? Especially if you've only ever been one or the other sexually speaking.

I don't really feel anything as a "man", except hungry frequently.

I can't answer because of the very specific type of non-binary I am...namely that a am agender. I have no idea what it would feel like to be a man/woman.