West Virginia Politician: "LGBTQ is a modern day KKK"

[Prydania]

Another dollar to the "poor schmuck who thinks Italian fascism equates to Nazism" jar...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_racial_laws

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Another dollar to the "poor schmuck who thinks Italian fascism equates to Nazism" jar...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_racial_laws

All of them being because of Nazi Germany’s increasing influence (and eventual puppetry of fascist Italy).

[Frievolk]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_racial_laws

All of them being because of Nazi Germany’s increasing influence (and eventual puppetry of fascist Italy).

So your ideology's single implementation was either so weak a state holding its offshoot ideology managed to subjugate it into implementing policies it totes didn't want to... or it wanted to and intentionally implemented those laws. Neither of which is good for your ideology.

[Prydania]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_racial_laws

All of them being because of Nazi Germany’s increasing influence (and eventual puppetry of fascist Italy).

I’m sure all of the Italian Jews and colonial subjects being stripped of their rights and rounded up appreciated the subtleties of the situation.

[Caracasus]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_racial_laws

All of them being because of Nazi Germany’s increasing influence (and eventual puppetry of fascist Italy).

And Italian Fascism was still based on principles of race supremicist bullshit. Just look at its actions in Africa and early Mussolini speeches. The idea that italian fascism was somehow corrupted is fascist bullshit and a flat out lie. It'd have joined the dots even if the nazis weren't around.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

All of them being because of Nazi Germany’s increasing influence (and eventual puppetry of fascist Italy).

So your ideology's single implementation was either so weak a state holding its offshoot ideology managed to subjugate it into implementing policies it totes didn't want to... or it wanted to and intentionally implemented those laws. Neither of which is good for your ideology.

I never stated that the Italian fascist state WASN’T incompetent.

The original premise was alright, but of course, it decided to take a different path.

[Karu Nadu]

So your ideology's single implementation was either so weak a state holding its offshoot ideology managed to subjugate it into implementing policies it totes didn't want to... or it wanted to and intentionally implemented those laws. Neither of which is good for your ideology.

I never stated that the Italian fascist state WASN’T incompetent.

The original premise was alright, but of course, it decided to take a different path.

It was fascism, it probably would never have worked, tbh.

[Caracasus]

From Wikipedia.

In a 1921 speech in Bologna (Italy), Mussolini stated, "Fascism was born... out of a profound, perennial need of this our Aryan race".[16] Mussolini was concerned with the low birth rates of the white race in contrast to the African and Asian races. In 1928 he noted the high birth-rate of blacks in the United States, and that they had surpassed the population of whites in certain areas, such as Harlem in New York City. He described their greater racial consciousness in comparison with American whites as contributing to their growing strength.[17]

[Western Vale Confederacy]

From Wikipedia.

In a 1921 speech in Bologna (Italy), Mussolini stated, "Fascism was born... out of a profound, perennial need of this our Aryan race".[16] Mussolini was concerned with the low birth rates of the white race in contrast to the African and Asian races. In 1928 he noted the high birth-rate of blacks in the United States, and that they had surpassed the population of whites in certain areas, such as Harlem in New York City. He described their greater racial consciousness in comparison with American whites as contributing to their growing strength.[17]

Ironically enough, the middle third of his statement is indeed true, even to this day: the birth rates of people with European descent are still low and those of African birth are still very much high in comparison (although it is falling fast).

[Southeastern Xiatao]

My only response to this thread is by this gif.

[Valrifell]

My only response to this thread is by this gif.


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Ironic that Jontron is more likely than most to agree with him.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

You want to forbid

His post didn't say anything about that.

I won’t. You have a nasty habit of not liking other people when they don’t come from cities or happen to be union workers.

I really hate when people assume I’m a hick just because I’m from WV.

I think I have a friend from West Virginia. At least he talks about it a lot. Maybe his friends were from West Virginia....idk.

"A reactionary bully"? You seem awfully emotional about my views.
All I'll say is, to each their own idea of "progress". Progress doesn't exclusively mean wanting to give rights to all minorities. Progress is what comes before attaining a goal, whatever that may be.



I don't know why you brought up the alt-right specifically. I don't associate with these people.



Yes, sure. At no point did I say that anyone should listen to those that criticise homosexuality. You listen if you're open to discuss and want to understand the opposing view. If you're not, that's your loss. What I said was that the people who criticise homosexuality should be allowed to speak.



Alright. I didn't challenge that.



I'm quite sincere about my respect of free speech. What I want is for people not to be hypocrites. If you had free speech your way and would silence the people who voice "bigoted" views, then you're just like those alt-righters that use free speech only as a means to an end. If you'd let them speak (doesn't mean you'd listen to them, that's everyone's individual choice in the end), then we're good.

Fascism and nazism isn't a legitimate ideology, it is a crime against humanity because it requires entire groups of people to be stripped of their status as humans.

I would not avocate for fascists to be protected under freedom of speech for the same reason I do not avocate for pedophiles to be protected under freedom of speech. Their speech is in essence a crime.

Point made.

Fascist italy rose to power and began subjugating African tribes utilizing mustard gas.

Should communists and socialists be completely ignored because communist leaders are responsible for over 200 million deaths worldwide? No, because 1) many communists/socialists condemn those genocides; and 2) they follow the ideology, not its historical application.

"Communist leader" is an oxymoron.

And on that topic, you do know that Islam advocates for the killing of homosexuals, right?

No it doesn't.

In the Islamic countries you dislike the criticism of, they throw gays off buildings daily.

1: Tbose barely exist. A more correct term would be "Muslim-majority countries"
2: Which Muslim-majority countries are you talking about?

the fact that some Islamic theocrats throw gays off of buildings

Ftfy

Anyways, back on topic: What this politician said was wrong and he should apologize.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

My only response to this thread is by this gif.


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Ironic that Jontron is more likely than most to agree with him.

A YouTuber who made edgy or slightly controversial statements isn’t the literal KKK.

[Byzconia]

Ironic that Jontron is more likely than most to agree with him.

A YouTuber who made edgy or slightly controversial statements isn’t the literal KKK.

That's not what they said.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

United States politics everbody

[Stellar Colonies]

There is a significant difference between public lynchings and flamboyant parades.

[Sicaris]

United States politics everbody

Strawmanning, everybody.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

United States politics everbody

Strawmanning, everybody.

Good point.

[Major-Tom]

"West Virginia, (Brokeback) Mountain Maaaaama."

[Vojelneit]

And on that topic, you do know that Islam advocates for the killing of homosexuals, right?

No it doesn't.

Lol. Sorry to burst your bubble.

https://sunnah.com/abudawud/40/112

[Jolthig]

Hilarious remarks.

[Jolthig]

No it doesn't.

Lol. Sorry to burst your bubble.

https://sunnah.com/abudawud/40/112

Now, show a hadith where it was actually done.

[The Grims]

No it doesn't.

Lol. Sorry to burst your bubble.

https://sunnah.com/abudawud/40/112

Muslims advocate the killing of homosexuals (and sadly often follow that up with action). Theoretical Islam does not.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Lol. Sorry to burst your bubble.

https://sunnah.com/abudawud/40/112

Muslims advocate the killing of homosexuals (and sadly often follow that up with action). Theoretical Islam does not.

That sahih hadith he cited is "theoretical Islam". Amin just chooses to ignore it for some reason.

Not that I'm complaining that he chooses the less shitty path. Just don't know why.

[Vojelneit]

Lol. Sorry to burst your bubble.

https://sunnah.com/abudawud/40/112

Now, show a hadith where it was actually done.

None to my knowledge. But just because it wasn't recorded in the Qu'ran doesn't mean it never happened.

The execution of homosexuals is common in the Muslim world because it's taught by Sharia law, as the sahih hadith I cited shows. All 10 countries that still punish homosexuality with death are Muslim-majority nations.