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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:02 pm

Overnight, the weatherman's predictions jumped from "run to the store and grab all the bread you can hold" 4 inches of snow over the weekend to an apocalyptic one foot of snow over the weekend, so there's that cheeriness in the air.
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Postby Idzequitch » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:08 pm

Kannap wrote:Overnight, the weatherman's predictions jumped from "run to the store and grab all the bread you can hold" 4 inches of snow over the weekend to an apocalyptic one foot of snow over the weekend, so there's that cheeriness in the air.

We're supposed to get a bunch of rain here overnight. Not quite cold enough for snow here right now.
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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:42 pm

I'm so bilingual I keep having to Google certain English words just to make sure I'm using them correctly.
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Postby The blAAtschApen » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:57 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:I'm so bilingual I keep having to Google certain English words just to make sure I'm using them correctly.


I am so trilingual that I speak German when in Romania, rather than switching to English.
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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:15 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:I'm so bilingual I keep having to Google certain English words just to make sure I'm using them correctly.


I am so trilingual that I speak German when in Romania, rather than switching to English.

You poor thing, I'll be praying for you.
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Postby The blAAtschApen » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:26 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
I am so trilingual that I speak German when in Romania, rather than switching to English.

You poor thing, I'll be praying for you.


Thanks.

Those prayers better be in Dutch, and of Catholic rite though. I cannot accept any others.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:27 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:I'm so bilingual I keep having to Google certain English words just to make sure I'm using them correctly.

I am monolingual. Aka American. And I dont see the fun of that at all.
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Postby The blAAtschApen » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:28 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:I'm so bilingual I keep having to Google certain English words just to make sure I'm using them correctly.

I am monolingual. Aka American. And I dont see the fun of that at all.


I always considered you more to be semilingual, to be honest :p
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:34 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:I'm so bilingual I keep having to Google certain English words just to make sure I'm using them correctly.

I am monolingual. Aka American. And I dont see the fun of that at all.


You had your shot at picking up some Swedish, but at least we were nice enough to let you pick up some English.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:41 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:You poor thing, I'll be praying for you.


Thanks.

Those prayers better be in Dutch, and of Catholic rite though. I cannot accept any others.

Counter-offer, two prayers, one in English and another in Tagalog, both Catholic rite.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:47 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I am monolingual. Aka American. And I dont see the fun of that at all.


I always considered you more to be semilingual, to be honest :p

HEY, brooklynese is a language.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:51 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I am monolingual. Aka American. And I dont see the fun of that at all.


You had your shot at picking up some Swedish, but at least we were nice enough to let you pick up some English.

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Postby Luziyca » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:18 pm

This is going to be a fun Christmas, to be honest: my uncle and cousin are heading up here.
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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:44 pm

Looks like I've lowered my standards to warehouse labor.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:12 pm

Kannap wrote:Looks like I've lowered my standards to warehouse labor.

...oh.

Hope your standards are still high enough to take a job with health insurance.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:43 pm

Kannap wrote:Looks like I've lowered my standards to warehouse labor.


I don't think you'll make a very good warehouse. Pockets are fine, but there's only so much a guy can store internally.
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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:47 pm

Kannap wrote:Looks like I've lowered my standards to warehouse labor.

Everyone has to do the occasional crappy job that they wouldn't choose to keep the finances going. Future employers would rather you show you were keen to work and rarely care much about the precise job you did (they like the words "transferable skills").

The only way to truly lower your standards is to not bother applying for anything. That's the only way to lose out.

Luziyca wrote:Hope your standards are still high enough to take a job with health insurance.

Although health insurance would be a consideration in the US... yes.

Though some jobs that come under the unnecessarily broad "entry-level" banner come with very good perks (many in the UK have at least some perks, actually; not sure about the US).
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Postby NeuPolska » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:57 am

Kannap wrote:Looks like I've lowered my standards to warehouse labor.

On the plus side it’s a great way to work out, just don’t pull with your back and don’t hold your breath.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:there's only so much a guy can store internally.

There’s quite a bit if you’re brave enough

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Postby The blAAtschApen » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:22 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Kannap wrote:Looks like I've lowered my standards to warehouse labor.


I don't think you'll make a very good warehouse. Pockets are fine, but there's only so much a guy can store internally.


Sheep are better to store things in.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:23 am

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Postby Duhon » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:31 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:I'm so bilingual I keep having to Google certain English words just to make sure I'm using them correctly.

I am monolingual. Aka American. And I dont see the fun of that at all.


It beggars belief that with a country with so many immigrants as you do, you don't go pick off complete sentences stuffed with foreign languages. Is it a matter of geography, of English being the lingua franca, or just a plain sense of cultural superiority (not criticising here btw)?

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Postby Duhon » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:33 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:I'm so bilingual I keep having to Google certain English words just to make sure I'm using them correctly.


I am so trilingual that I speak German when in Romania, rather than switching to English.


I was told the average Netherlander's a quadrilingual.

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Postby The blAAtschApen » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:38 am

Duhon wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
I am so trilingual that I speak German when in Romania, rather than switching to English.


I was told the average Netherlander's a quadrilingual.

Bad Dutchling, bad sheep !


You are told wrong.

I mean, I do speak a bit of french, but beyond ordering in a restaurant, asking the way or flirting, i have a hard time.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:53 am

Duhon wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I am monolingual. Aka American. And I dont see the fun of that at all.


It beggars belief that with a country with so many immigrants as you do, you don't go pick off complete sentences stuffed with foreign languages. Is it a matter of geography, of English being the lingua franca, or just a plain sense of cultural superiority (not criticising here btw)?

Short Answer: Depends.

In the early days of immigration people who didn't speak English were discouraged from speaking their native language and teaching their kids their natives languages, so they'd have an easier time fitting in and integrating into US society. (The former reason has mostly died off, but the second reason has evolved into immigrant refusing to teach their kids languages other than English for multiple reasons (Fear that they won't integrate properly and be made fun of, belief in the idiotic idea that learning 2 languages at once will destroy their child's ability to speak any languages and make their children dumb, etc...))

Another reason would be that, quite frankly, people aren't interested in learning languages other than their native language (In this case, English, but the same can be said for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, etc...). North America only has 3 (And that's being generous) major languages spoken on it (For reference, the US and Canada combined are about the same size if not bigger than Europe). Quite frankly, you don't really need to speak another language other than English or Spanish here, and you most likely won't get practice with another language either, so what's the point?

Then there's the belief that English should be the only language spoken here and anyone who doesn't conform can get out. Then you have immmigrants who don't really care about the main native population and don't want to intergrate or even make friends or socialize with people outside their little ethnic bubbles (There are a lot of Chinatowns, Little Italies, etc... here, and some are so separated from general society it doesn't even feel like you're in Canada, America, Mexico, etc...)

Relating to the second reason, language programs here also suck. Most are very slow and noneffective. Add on the before mentioned fact that meeting people who want to speak their native language to you is damn near impossible, and yeah, not a good learning environment. Also, if Americans/English speaking Canadians go abroad to say... Europe for example. Almost no one's going to talk to them in their native language or even talk to them at all. English is the Lingua Franca, so most people just default to English if you try to talk to them in order to save time (Or don't talk at all because they don't understand English).

I could go on and on and on there are so many reasons, but those are just a few reasons as to why language accusition is so difficult here (I'm sure I missed a few and maybe even gave you unrelated answers, but this topic tends to be a tad bit complicated). Same thing goes for the rest of North and South America.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:02 am

Duhon wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I am monolingual. Aka American. And I dont see the fun of that at all.


It beggars belief that with a country with so many immigrants as you do, you don't go pick off complete sentences stuffed with foreign languages. Is it a matter of geography, of English being the lingua franca, or just a plain sense of cultural superiority (not criticising here btw)?

Geography mostly, traveling to an from other countries is expensive in the US. Anything but Mexico and Canada is an plane ride away. When I went to Europe it was still fairly easy to get around as a decent portion of western Europeans speak English, so there really isnt the need to learn, or exposure to, other languages that say Europeans have.
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