Twitch user mocked for avoiding accusations of adultery

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Last year, I brought you a thread about Mike Pence avoiding temptation for adultery. This thread is similar but distinct, as it is about a guy who doesn't claim he's particularly tempted to commit adultery... but that others will think he is.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/13/17684 ... e-valkyrae

Ninja, aka Tyler Blevins, Twitch’s biggest streamer, told Polygon last week that he doesn’t play with female gamers. The decision, he explained, is rooted in internet culture rather than discriminatory intent — Blevins said he believes that that any possible hint of flirting during a stream will immediately be “clickbait forever.” In his words, “The only way to avoid that [gossip] is to not play with [women] at all.”

Blevins’ comments, seen as a product of internet culture by some and sexist by others, sparked discourse among fans, Twitch streamers and YouTube personalities who each shared their own thoughts on the matter.

Imane “Pokimane” Anys said during a stream last Saturday, “It sucks that things like [Blevins’ decision] have to be made into a big deal when I don’t think they have to be.” Anys is no stranger to Twitch popularity and scrutiny — after she began to stream Fortnite with pro player Ali “Myth” Kabbani, the pair have been dogged by dating rumors. Furthermore, she argued that Blevins’ claims that he hasn’t received criticism from female streamers were due to the fact that he hadn’t publicly spoken about his decision before, rather than a lack of objection.

Reaction quickly spread across Twitter, some agreeing with Blevins’ statement, others firmly against it, and yet others running the whole gamut of thoughts and feelings.

So much for the notion that being married is virtuous. Can't be an adulterer if you're single!

On the one hand, I think people underestimate how serious an accusation some guys consider adultery to be. This might this be a competitive disadvantage to married individuals; especially the ones who take their marital vows the most seriously; partaking in Twitch. People can point to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump getting away with it, but Tiger Woods got in much more trouble over it, so it's probably only out of blind partisanship that the former did.

That said, the risk of being put into dire poverty by child support bills has not restrained the male sex drive, so I can't blame anyone for assuming by default that marital fidelity wouldn't be adequate to do so either. For the same reason, I'd consider Riley J. Dennis' comparison to gay sex rumours a false equivalence. We know most people are straight. "X random individual is straight" is a perfectly reasonable default assumption. Adam Koebel complained about bisexuals being perceived as "fuck-crazed maniacs," as if the people characterizing them as that ever said there was anyone who WASN'T a fuck-crazed maniac.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

All this sounds like to me is "I don't know how to talk to women as people instead of objects of desire, so I'm just not going to speak to them at all."

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

All this sounds like to me is "I don't know how to talk to women as people instead of objects of desire, so I'm just not going to speak to them at all."

"People" and "objects of desire" are not mutually exclusive.

EDIT: The notion of an "object of desire" is hardly... objectively definable anyway.

[Sovaal]

Eh, his choice, don't see why people should fucking care so much, than again it's people that caused this in the first place.

Anyway people suck all around.

[Saiwania]

They probably should just play with whoever they want. I'd rather be known as the person who did what they thought was right, than the person who quit because they were afraid of what other people might say.

[Sovaal]

All this sounds like to me is "I don't know how to talk to women as people instead of objects of desire, so I'm just not going to speak to them at all."

People take things out of context all the time man.

[Ifreann]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

[Farnhamia]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

Yak herder in the Himalayas?

[Sovaal]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

Yak herder in the Himalayas?

Yeti stalking said yak herder?

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

How pathetic.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

How many involve being alone with one?

[Fartsniffage]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

Gay porn.

[Ifreann]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

Yak herder in the Himalayas?

Yaks do famously hate women.

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I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

How many involve being alone with one?

Lots? I'm alone with women pretty regularly. And I would think that a Twitch streamer would never be alone with anyone, in the sense that their entire job is people watching them, and in the sense that their job is sitting alone in front of a camera and computer.

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I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

Gay porn.

My imagination must be acting up if I couldn't imagine gay porn.

[Cannot think of a name]

I'm not...what is it I'm supposed to...what is the idea here?

Is it that there is a community so emotionally stunted that if they see members of the opposite sex together without one of them yelling about cooties it must mean they're fucking?

Is it that there is a dude in a community so emotionally stunted that if they see members of the opposite sex together without one of them yelling about cooties they must be fucking and instead of shrugging that off in the same way you would when a kid tells you the floor is lava and you got shit to do* they decide to cater to that perception by not playing with women?

Is it that some dude cares more about random ass emotionally stunted people who assume a man and a woman playing a game together in different rooms in different parts of the world without yelling about cooties must clearly be fucking than he does about his wife and his own feelings about his relationship or his relationships with non-emotionally stunted people?

Is it that we not only have an inexplicable world where watching other people play video games is not only a thing, but it's such a thing that there are 'big' celebrities in it and that now we have to care about their weird sexual politics?

I feel like there has been a request for outrage, but I'm unclear what it is I'm outraged about.

*Fuck, I always forget the *, I will play 'the floor is lava' with a kid even if I got shit to do, but you get the idea.

[Jerzylvania]

Eh, his choice, don't see why people should fucking care so much, than again it's people that caused this in the first place.

Anyway people suck all around.

Suck AND fuck.

[Greed and Death]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

Its a video game so not sure I would call it a line of work.

Maybe his twitching produces income but that is more akin to him being an artist selling his art work. And artist can generally refuse to work with anyone, like if Georges Braque said he only wanted to paint cubes and not females no one would bat an eyelash.

[Cannot think of a name]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

Its a video game so not sure I would call it a line of work.

Maybe his twitching produces income but that is more akin to him being an artist selling his art work. And artist can generally refuse to work with anyone, like if Georges Braque said he only wanted to paint cubes and not females no one would bat an eyelash.

His art is playing video games while people watch him play video games.

[Ifreann]

Its a video game so not sure I would call it a line of work.

Maybe his twitching produces income but that is more akin to him being an artist selling his art work. And artist can generally refuse to work with anyone, like if Georges Braque said he only wanted to paint cubes and not females no one would bat an eyelash.

His art is playing video games while people watch him play video games.

I'm sure there have been actors that refused to work with women. I doubt there are many now.

[Cannot think of a name]

His art is playing video games while people watch him play video games.

I'm sure there have been actors that refused to work with women. I doubt there are many now.

Every once in a while you hear about those actors who won't do romantic or kissing scenes because of some sort of puritanical notion of infidelity. Then you generally don't hear about them that much. I mean, here's some. The only ones that object to it wholesale for those reasons that aren't just doing direct market Christian films these days is the guy who played Dahrk in the Arrowverse...

[Costa Fierro]

All this sounds like to me is "I don't know how to talk to women as people instead of objects of desire, so I'm just not going to speak to them at all."

Of course it would. He's also married too, having the ball and chain fitted tying the knot in August last year.

Nice use of shaming language, by the way. Making assumptions about him without actually knowing the facts. Ironic, really, as this is exactly what he is talking about and what he wants to avoid.

[Costa Fierro]

Is it that there is a community so emotionally stunted that if they see members of the opposite sex together without one of them yelling about cooties it must mean they're fucking?

Is it that there is a dude in a community so emotionally stunted that if they see members of the opposite sex together without one of them yelling about cooties they must be fucking and instead of shrugging that off in the same way you would when a kid tells you the floor is lava and you got shit to do* they decide to cater to that perception by not playing with women?

Is it that some dude cares more about random ass emotionally stunted people who assume a man and a woman playing a game together in different rooms in different parts of the world without yelling about cooties must clearly be fucking than he does about his wife and his own feelings about his relationship or his relationships with non-emotionally stunted people?

Is it that we not only have an inexplicable world where watching other people play video games is not only a thing, but it's such a thing that there are 'big' celebrities in it and that now we have to care about their weird sexual politics?

I feel like there has been a request for outrage, but I'm unclear what it is I'm outraged about.

*Fuck, I always forget the *, I will play 'the floor is lava' with a kid even if I got shit to do, but you get the idea.

No. The idea is that virtually anything can be said or made on the internet and, if it's convincing enough, people will believe it's true. #MeToo exists purely on people believing hearsay about individuals and passing judgement on them without engaging in any critical thinking. You tie that to media that's more interested in getting ratings/clicks than actual journalism and you have a climate in which men, especially those in the public eye or in positions of power and influence, would rather simply avoiding dealing with women altogether rather than risk their careers and reputations because one woman might claim she was raped or that he committed adultery, harassment, etc.

Which is entirely understandable and logical to do. Ironically people leaping to the conclusion that his decision is based on his inability to talk to women is exactly what he is getting at: people making baseless assumptions.

[Costa Fierro]

I can't imagine there's any other line of work where someone could say "I won't work with women" and actually get support.

It's a growing phenomenon in the corporate sphere.

[New haven america]

All this sounds like to me is "I don't know how to talk to women as people instead of objects of desire, so I'm just not going to speak to them at all."

Of course it would. He's also married too, having the ball and chain fitted tying the knot in August last year.

Nice use of shaming language, by the way. Making assumptions about him without actually knowing the facts. Ironic, really, as this is exactly what he is talking about and what he wants to avoid.

Wow, first post on the thread and you're already playing the victim cards.

Way to fuckin' go.

[Galloism]

This is an absurd overreaction to the problem of clickbait.

Better idea: he should setup another rig and play with his wife (along with other players). Should tamp down on any accusations, and plus, the family that plays together stays together.

[Costa Fierro]

Wow, first post on the thread and you're already playing the victim cards.

Way to fuckin' go.

>pointing out the irony of the argument and talking about the subject in the OP
>"you're playing the victim!!!!"

At least we know the bat signal is working.