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Which Kievan/Novrogrodian/Russian/Soviet leader was the greatest?

Rurik
12
6%
Vladimir I the Great
12
6%
Alexander Nevsky
9
4%
Ivan I of Moscow
3
1%
Ivan IV the Terrible
23
11%
Boris Godunov
1
0%
Michael Romanov
2
1%
Peter I The Great
66
31%
Lenin
50
24%
Iosif Stalin
32
15%
 
Total votes : 210

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The Parkus Empire
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:32 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:Jesus to you is a corpse you hit people with.

*blinks*
......lol wat

He means Christianity as a serious faith is dead to most and functions as nothing but a tribalism flag for jingoism against non-Christians
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:34 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote::oops:
Genivaria wrote:*blinks*
......lol wat

He means Christianity as a serious faith is dead to most and functions as nothing but a tribalism flag for jingoism against non-Christians


He literally has Roei no Uta in his sig so I am not sure what to make of that.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:36 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote::oops:
He means Christianity as a serious faith is dead to most and functions as nothing but a tribalism flag for jingoism against non-Christians


He literally has Roei no Uta in his sig so I am not sure what to make of that.

He shills for China
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:38 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:I'm not mad that your belief in a universal faith is insincere. I'm just pointing out that you use it as a tool to fight a great race war, like most people do.

Actually religious people are fairly weird.


It's not insincere, you're just pulling shit out of your ass at this point. Race war, eh? Feel free to show me where I've used race as a cause for...Well, anything, anywhere.

It's ironic to hear a weeaboo calling anyone or anything else weird.

Hey now just because he has an anime flag doesn't me-
Herskerstad wrote:He literally has Roei no Uta in his sig so I am not sure what to make of that.

....oh for fucks sake.

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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:40 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:From Canaanite numens Christ emerged and to Caucasian numens Christ reverts


Banter is fine, cringe is not.

What most generalites consider one is actually the other so who knows which is which?
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:42 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:*blinks*
......lol wat

He means Christianity as a serious faith is dead to most and functions as nothing but a tribalism flag for jingoism against non-Christians


Which I wasn't doing anyway, and don't do.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:48 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:He means Christianity as a serious faith is dead to most and functions as nothing but a tribalism flag for jingoism against non-Christians


Which I wasn't doing anyway, and don't do.

Some here do but I don't think I've seen you specifically do that.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:49 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:He means Christianity as a serious faith is dead to most and functions as nothing but a tribalism flag for jingoism against non-Christians


Which I wasn't doing anyway, and don't do.

I know.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:52 pm

Taihei Tengoku wrote:Second part is true--I don't really want to spend my time showing you that you are a vulgar tribalist, and it really doesn't affect my life either way. You'll just have to take me at face value.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnYdteja7Y0

If that's the case why even bother accusing. And no, I'm not an extreme tribalist, I don't discriminate towards others merely for the fact that they're not Christian. And considering you've admitted you won't prove otherwise that's the end of it.
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Postby Darussalam » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:12 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Banter is fine, cringe is not.

Ah, good RWDT content
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Postby Hakons » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:36 pm

Taihei Tengoku wrote:Neither of you read the post right but I guess that's ok--it is always a mistake posting in NSG


You parading falsehoods is going to get you called out wherever you post
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:59 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:*blinks*
......lol wat

He means Christianity as a serious faith is dead to most and functions as nothing but a tribalism flag for jingoism against non-Christians


Well, I suppose that does apply to hard-core Trump supporters, at least.

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Bienenhalde
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:09 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Why should being Christian be a factor?


Minimum culture shock if they're entering a fundamentally Christian country. Same values and culture for the most part.


It is also worth noting that Middle Eastern Christians are facing serious persecution these days. Western countries ought to make it a priority to support Middle Eastern Christian communities that are under threat.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:10 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:Well, I suppose that does apply to hard-core Trump supporters, at least.

Policy-wise, Trump is very good for Christianity, his judge picks might permit school prayer to return for example.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:14 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Well, I suppose that does apply to hard-core Trump supporters, at least.

Policy-wise, Trump is very good for Christianity, his judge picks might permit school prayer to return for example.


Yeah, but such an argument could easily apply to Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich as well. I am talking about the sort of people who supported Trump in particular, against the rest of the Republican party.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:25 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Policy-wise, Trump is very good for Christianity, his judge picks might permit school prayer to return for example.


Yeah, but such an argument could easily apply to Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich as well. I am talking about the sort of people who supported Trump in particular, against the rest of the Republican party.

None of them stood a chance, all completely inviable in a democracy.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:57 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Well, I suppose that does apply to hard-core Trump supporters, at least.

Policy-wise, Trump is very good for Christianity, his judge picks might permit school prayer to return for example.

.....
How?!
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:03 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Policy-wise, Trump is very good for Christianity, his judge picks might permit school prayer to return for example.

.....
How?!


I just gave an example.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:16 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:.....
How?!


I just gave an example.

Ok, but how would school prayer bring back Christianity to the US? It's a start, true, but still.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:21 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
I just gave an example.

Ok, but how would school prayer bring back Christianity to the US? It's a start, true, but still.

The fact that school gets to have a large hand in raising the kids, means Democrats will try to uproot Christianity from any part of that time. If schools can raise children religiously (voucher-based private schools included), this will be a major victory. Under Dems, schools with indoctrinate children with *their* values, which is bad news
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:13 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Well, I suppose that does apply to hard-core Trump supporters, at least.

Policy-wise, Trump is very good for Christianity, his judge picks might permit school prayer to return for example.

Twenty talents of supreme court picks

Christianity as it turns out is about winning knife fights on Earth
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:01 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Well, I suppose that does apply to hard-core Trump supporters, at least.

Policy-wise, Trump is very good for Christianity, his judge picks might permit school prayer to return for example.

Trump is to Christians as Lenin is to Tsarist Russia.

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Postby Fahran » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:30 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Ok, but how would school prayer bring back Christianity to the US? It's a start, true, but still.

The fact that school gets to have a large hand in raising the kids, means Democrats will try to uproot Christianity from any part of that time. If schools can raise children religiously (voucher-based private schools included), this will be a major victory. Under Dems, schools with indoctrinate children with *their* values, which is bad news

Restoring the family unit might prove a sound cultural trend as well if your intention is to restore religion as a focal point of public, albeit not necessarily political, life. Oddly enough, certain racial and ethnic minorities who presently vote Democrat would be quite grateful to see such policies implemented given that Democratic partisans tend to be more atheistic and secular than their rank-and-file voters.

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Postby Hakons » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:30 am

Taihei Tengoku wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Policy-wise, Trump is very good for Christianity, his judge picks might permit school prayer to return for example.

Twenty talents of supreme court picks

Christianity as it turns out is about winning knife fights on Earth


You're still posting nonsense. Go to the CDT if you want to complain about the supposedly terrible state of Christianity.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:55 am

Fahran wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The fact that school gets to have a large hand in raising the kids, means Democrats will try to uproot Christianity from any part of that time. If schools can raise children religiously (voucher-based private schools included), this will be a major victory. Under Dems, schools with indoctrinate children with *their* values, which is bad news

Restoring the family unit might prove a sound cultural trend as well if your intention is to restore religion as a focal point of public, albeit not necessarily political, life. Oddly enough, certain racial and ethnic minorities who presently vote Democrat would be quite grateful to see such policies implemented given that Democratic partisans tend to be more atheistic and secular than their rank-and-file voters.


Very good point. And considering current demographic trends, it is very important that the Republican party should make more of an effort to reach out to socially conservative minority voters.

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