Would you give your kids to Trump?

[Kubumba Tribe]

This is a really weird thread. What exactly is the point of this question?

It’s two fold

1. I wanted to hear a good discussion

2. I wanted to see how morally virtuous this forum is (how many people were capable of the self sacrifice of giving up their own kids so they can have a better future... and how many people would simply stick to tradition, defend some strange self-centered rules of parenthood where they don’t really have to give, or else have minds that will simply reject premises in the hypothetical without even realizing it)

Asking 1 moral question will not find how morally virtuous NSG is. Also, there sometimes aren't right/wrong answers to moral questions, as can be seen in this thread.
My answer is no.

[Infected Mushroom]

So as per usual IM proposes a ridiculous hypothetical and proceeds to get pissy when people don't say what he wants them to say.

Not so much, I’m massively entertained; the human mind is so fascinating in how it justifies itself

[Jraden]

I'd rather raise a children in an environment surrounded by his immediate family, rather than entrusting him to the President of the United States, who would be very busy with his life, and probably have to be constantly babysat by someone else. And then what happens when he's no longer President (Assuming my child isn't somehow murdered by then) he's just going to be raised by a controversial billionaire.

Also, I'm Hispanic, and I'd rather not have my hypothetical child memed and become a subject of social controversy.

I mean sure being raised by Trump might sound when you talk about the numbers, but I'd rather raise the child myself where he is surrounded by a stable, healthy support system. So far no one in my family has gone off the deep end. I highly doubt I would be such an awful parent that a better alternative would be to give the baby to Trump. Besides, someone else would probably be willing to give up their child to Trump, let them do that. Is Trump even allowed to adopts kids?

This is a dumb question, but I guess I'm dumber for answering it.

[United City States of Oceania]

No. I wouldn't want my hypothetical child to have the ideals of Trump.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Lmao what.

Why would I do that?

[Prusselanden]

No.

Like

why should I? I have no reason to.

I'll be a doctor so I'll make a lot of money to raise my kids and I have been told I have a natural gift around children so of course I'd be a great parent. Even if Trump is an ok parent giving my kids to him would mean them experiencing a downgrade in parenting quality and my kids' lives will be worse because my parenting is just that good. Like, why have good when you have great?

So you want to take someone who has a natural talent for childcare and has perfected that skill through the years to be super good and also plentiful resources to care for children and give them to a guy who has lesser skill. What is the good in that?

[United City States of Oceania]

No.

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why should I? I have no reason to.

I'll be a doctor so I'll make a lot of money to raise my kids and I have been told I have a natural gift around children so of course I'd be a great parent. Even if Trump is an ok parent giving my kids to him would mean them experiencing a downgrade in parenting quality and my kids' lives will be worse because my parenting is just that good. Like, why have good when you have great?

So you want to take someone who has a natural talent for childcare and has perfected that skill through the years to be super good and also plentiful resources to care for children and give them to a guy who has lesser skill. What is the good in that?

Well, that's confident.

[Prusselanden]

No.

Like

why should I? I have no reason to.

I'll be a doctor so I'll make a lot of money to raise my kids and I have been told I have a natural gift around children so of course I'd be a great parent. Even if Trump is an ok parent giving my kids to him would mean them experiencing a downgrade in parenting quality and my kids' lives will be worse because my parenting is just that good. Like, why have good when you have great?

So you want to take someone who has a natural talent for childcare and has perfected that skill through the years to be super good and also plentiful resources to care for children and give them to a guy who has lesser skill. What is the good in that?

Well, that's confident.

I've worked with children before and they've all turned out great.

[Infected Mushroom]

Well, that's confident.

I've worked with children before and they've all turned out great.

From what I’ve seen, as a general rule of thumb:

Good doctors don’t make good parents (kind of like how good soldiers don’t make good kings) Who knows though... maybe you are an exception

[Prusselanden]

I've worked with children before and they've all turned out great.

From what I’ve seen, as a general rule of thumb:

Good doctors don’t make good parents (kind of like how good soldiers don’t make good kings) Who knows though... maybe you are an exception

I'm going to be a pediatrician so I should be good with kids

[Infected Mushroom]

From what I’ve seen, as a general rule of thumb:

Good doctors don’t make good parents (kind of like how good soldiers don’t make good kings) Who knows though... maybe you are an exception

I'm going to be a pediatrician so I should be good with kids

In what way?

[Jraden]

I'm going to be a pediatrician so I should be good with kids

In what way?

In the way that it is literally their job to be good with kids.

[Frostnia]

This is a really weird thread. What exactly is the point of this question?

It’s two fold

1. I wanted to hear a good discussion

2. I wanted to see how morally virtuous this forum is (how many people were capable of the self sacrifice of giving up their own kids so they can have a better future... and how many people would simply stick to tradition, defend some strange self-centered rules of parenthood where they don’t really have to give, or else have minds that will simply reject premises in the hypothetical without even realizing it)

If I think Trump is a terrible father and an awful moral teacher, how would it be "virtuous" to give my kids to him?

[Kubumba Tribe]

It’s two fold

1. I wanted to hear a good discussion

2. I wanted to see how morally virtuous this forum is (how many people were capable of the self sacrifice of giving up their own kids so they can have a better future... and how many people would simply stick to tradition, defend some strange self-centered rules of parenthood where they don’t really have to give, or else have minds that will simply reject premises in the hypothetical without even realizing it)

If I think Trump is a terrible father and an awful moral teacher, how would it be "virtuous" to give my kids to him?

Because he has money. Duh. /s

[Balican]

If Trump would want to raise my son into a Primarch, I would be okay with that.

[Infected Mushroom]

It’s two fold

1. I wanted to hear a good discussion

2. I wanted to see how morally virtuous this forum is (how many people were capable of the self sacrifice of giving up their own kids so they can have a better future... and how many people would simply stick to tradition, defend some strange self-centered rules of parenthood where they don’t really have to give, or else have minds that will simply reject premises in the hypothetical without even realizing it)

If I think Trump is a terrible father and an awful moral teacher, how would it be "virtuous" to give my kids to him?

Your kids would have access to much better education, healthcare, comforts, housing etc and would have opportunities and contacts that are unimaginable to us

They would have a realistic chance to be important and successful

That’s far more then what any run of the mill parent can provide

[Infected Mushroom]

If I think Trump is a terrible father and an awful moral teacher, how would it be "virtuous" to give my kids to him?

Because he has money. Duh. /s

He’s got enough money to pay off the debts of and buy all the houses and all the cars owned by the total of every single person who has posted in this particular thread

That is how overpowered his gold generation/accumulation stats are

[Hammer Britannia]

Uh, no

I don't care if my child would get a chance of a better material future, I am the father, he is my child, I want to raise him as my child

[Ifreann]

I've worked with children before and they've all turned out great.

From what I’ve seen, as a general rule of thumb:

Good doctors don’t make good parents (kind of like how good soldiers don’t make good kings) Who knows though... maybe you are an exception

Which TV show told you this?

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If I think Trump is a terrible father and an awful moral teacher, how would it be "virtuous" to give my kids to him?

Your kids would have access to much better education, healthcare, comforts, housing etc

They would have access to more expensive education, healthcare, comforts, and housing. None of these things would necessarily be better.

and would have opportunities and contacts that are unimaginable to us

Trump is 71. He will be dead before any of these supposed contacts would be useful.

They would have a realistic chance to be important and successful

None of Trump's children are important beyond being Trump's children, and again, Trump will be dead by the time an infant given to him today would be starting a career.

That’s far more then what any run of the mill parent can provide

Not really.

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Because he has money. Duh. /s

He’s got enough money to pay off the debts of and buy all the houses and all the cars owned by the total of every single person who has posted in this particular thread

That is how overpowered his gold generation/accumulation stats are

Trump's not as rich as he tells people.

[Prusselanden]

If I think Trump is a terrible father and an awful moral teacher, how would it be "virtuous" to give my kids to him?

Your kids would have access to much better education, healthcare, comforts, housing etc and would have opportunities and contacts that are unimaginable to us

They would have a realistic chance to be important and successful

That’s far more then what any run of the mill parent can provide

So you're saying

If I'm a really rich doctor

And I have a great network

And I can give my kid all of above I should still give them to Trump because somehow he's better....?

Why Trump I could just give the kid to Zuckerberg of Bill Gates

[Torrocca]

So as per usual IM proposes a ridiculous hypothetical and proceeds to get pissy when people don't say what he wants them to say.

Not so much, I’m massively entertained; the human mind is so fascinating in how it justifies itself

You're fascinated by how people justify not surrendering their kids to a megalomaniacal, narcissistic asshole?

Huh.

[Franceburg]

This is pretty darn awkward. Why do you even give your children to a President and not raising them by yourselves?

[Galloism]

2. I wanted to see how morally virtuous this forum is (how many people were capable of the self sacrifice of giving up their own kids so they can have a better future... and how many people would simply stick to tradition, defend some strange self-centered rules of parenthood where they don’t really have to give, or else have minds that will simply reject premises in the hypothetical without even realizing it)

I'd say that's "assuming your position as true".

After all, there's some of us who would think that, no matter how much Donald Trump is sincere about being a good parent, he's a malignant narcissist, and is completely incapable of such.

So to us, it would be like turning over a kid to Hannibal Lecter because he promised he turned over a new leaf and isn't going to eat the kid for dinner ever.

[Infected Mushroom]

Your kids would have access to much better education, healthcare, comforts, housing etc and would have opportunities and contacts that are unimaginable to us

They would have a realistic chance to be important and successful

That’s far more then what any run of the mill parent can provide

So you're saying

If I'm a really rich doctor

And I have a great network

And I can give my kid all of above I should still give them to Trump because somehow he's better....?

Why Trump I could just give the kid to Zuckerberg of Bill Gates

Because they don’t want your kid

[Neutraligon]

I've worked with children before and they've all turned out great.

From what I’ve seen, as a general rule of thumb:

Good doctors don’t make good parents (kind of like how good soldiers don’t make good kings) Who knows though... maybe you are an exception

That has not been my experience, ever. Considering my mom is a doctor...yeah.