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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:59 pm

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Not what the OP is about.

And I'm telling you that the standard of care for dinosaurs in the world today is pretty fucking low. So why should we expect the bar to suddenly go up for your island dwelling mutants?


Look at how the creatures at Disney's Animal Kingdom are treated nor are they mutants.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:00 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What's extreme about it? If anything I don't think it's safe enough.

It's the impression I'm getting considering your willingness to accommodate dinosaurs at the expense of people's safety.

Its animal cruelty plain and simple

They're fucking 40-foot murder lizards with a penchant for breaking out and killing people. It's not cruel at all.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:00 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
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Not what the OP is about.

The OP isn't about dinosaurs?

Dinosaurs in the sense of those that were wiped out by the asteroid 65 million years ago.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:00 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Its animal cruelty plain and simple

They're fucking 40-foot murder lizards with a penchant for breaking out and killing people. It's not cruel at all.

It absolutely is.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:01 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:They're fucking 40-foot murder lizards with a penchant for breaking out and killing people. It's not cruel at all.

It absolutely is.

You can't even back up that assertion, you're just repeating what you said.
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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:02 pm

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Dogmeat wrote:And I'm telling you that the standard of care for dinosaurs in the world today is pretty fucking low. So why should we expect the bar to suddenly go up for your island dwelling mutants?


Look at how the creatures at Disney's Animal Kingdom are treated nor are they mutants.

The creatures in Jurassic World are dinosaur-amphibian hybrids, so... yeah. Mutants.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The OP isn't about dinosaurs?

Dinosaurs in the sense of those that were wiped out by the asteroid 65 million years ago.

Why should they be treated differently from their modern counterparts? I bet T. rex tastes like chicken.
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Postby The Fields of Asphodel » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:11 pm

Just watched it. The apatosaurus was really sad. I’m not spoiling, though.

I don’t think that bringing them back in the first place was ethical and I don’t think that you could, in good conscience, allow them off of the island, but I also don’t think they could have, in good conscience, have been left to die. Really, no matter what you did, in order to take them off the island, they would have to be moved by sea. If they never left the ship and just waited for the volcano to calm down or to find an alternative location that wasn’t situated atop a volcano, the dinosaurs couldn’t really spread to land. It would have been expensive, but I also feel like ‘massive natural disaster’ should have been something a company investing probably billions of dollars into recreating dinosaurs for a theme park should have planned for. I mean, the island is right by Costa Rica, which was devastated by hurricanes last year. Emergency evacuation should have been planned for if the dinosaurs’ safety was a priority.
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Postby Sadakoyama » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:16 pm

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Sadakoyama wrote:Saving dinosaurs might be prudent, but the spendy ones get all the girls.

What?

It's a joke.
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Postby Austria Minor » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:19 pm

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Austria Minor wrote:Here's an idea. In order to contain the dinosaurs we implant explosive devices inside their head that go bomb once they get out of containment automatically. They will have a set area they're allowed in, in the reserve. If they leave the reserve in other words, Dino go boom! It seems like a safe containment method. Plus it's the humane thing to do, I'd rather see them living on a reserve then a dino baby dying by lava. Plus we can insert trackers inside of them and stuff.

Um no. Disney would never be that cruel.


They would be sedated and the implant would be tiny but the explosion big in case a dinosaur escaped. I mean would your rather have the dinosaurs be safe and living inside the reserve but if one breaks out it's brain explodes. Not it's head so nothing is seen. It just drops dead. Or would you rather see them burn alive with that Shasta Giant Sloth?

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:21 pm

There is no reason Disney needs an assault dino, let alone dinos with the shoulder thingy that goes up and ones that hold more than 10 dinos.
No one hunts with an assault dino and they are only for killing lots of people in a short amount of time. Only the military and police should have access to assault dinos.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:45 pm

Austria Minor wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Um no. Disney would never be that cruel.


They would be sedated and the implant would be tiny but the explosion big in case a dinosaur escaped.

It is generally not easy to make something tiny produce a big explosion.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:46 pm

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Yes, they will a always be a safety risk (against humans and other animals)

The dinosaurs must die

Plus they had their chance to survive back in the prehistoric days. They shouldn’t get special treatment. Round twos are only for creative master race type species (like humans). The Dinosaurs have not earned this.


Just when I thought people in this thread could get no crueler you go ahead and take the cake. They were brought back and you'd let them die for your superiority complex or whatever else it is. I really think your posts are just satire or spoofs honestly

Are the creatures in the Animal Kingdom a safety risk too?


Newsflash: humans are superior and more deserving of life than vicious dinosaurs.

If you think otherwise then I question your loyalty to humanity.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:51 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
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Look at how the creatures at Disney's Animal Kingdom are treated nor are they mutants.

The creatures in Jurassic World are dinosaur-amphibian hybrids, so... yeah. Mutants.

Birb-frogs didn't mutate, though. Clearly they are abominations, not mutants.
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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:52 pm

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Dogmeat wrote:The creatures in Jurassic World are dinosaur-amphibian hybrids, so... yeah. Mutants.

Birb-frogs didn't mutate, though. Clearly they are abominations, not mutants.

Fair.
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Postby Eaglemount » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:04 pm

We would vote Yes if the Provision related to Disney was removed and in this way. Bring boatloads of Japanese island construction workers to the JP islands to add to them and link them by land together. Bring Trump Wall builders over to get the perimeter megaton wall built around the edges and Germans to build a large dome over all of it.

Any Dino outside the dome is terminated.

Natural environment within the dome would let them all live in a natural state while paying customers buy view time on live feeds of the mega island and inhabitants. No direct human involvment within the dome is required and even oceanic hotels could be built around the mega island to support tourist dollars and offset costs.

This as a game issue by the thread master would be a great addition to what we already have too. Long live JP and JW.
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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:07 pm

Ship em all to New Zealand as payback for those Hobbit movies.

Māori are probably the only people who could handle them anyways.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:28 pm

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Just when I thought people in this thread could get no crueler you go ahead and take the cake. They were brought back and you'd let them die for your superiority complex or whatever else it is. I really think your posts are just satire or spoofs honestly

Are the creatures in the Animal Kingdom a safety risk too?


Newsflash: humans are superior and more deserving of life than vicious dinosaurs.

If you think otherwise then I question your loyalty to humanity.


All creatures are equal. You question my loyalty to humanity because I have compassion for all creatures even resurrected Dinosaurs?

You did not answer my question either.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Newsflash: humans are superior and more deserving of life than vicious dinosaurs.

If you think otherwise then I question your loyalty to humanity.


All creatures are equal. You question my loyalty to humanity because I have compassion for all creatures even resurrected Dinosaurs?

You did not answer my question either.


All creatures are not equal. Humans are the master race. 1 human life > infinite dinosaur lives

the dinosaur has proven itself to be a threat over the course of several consecutive incidents, why would you prioritise their lives over human lives?
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Postby Austria Minor » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:12 pm

Eaglemount wrote:We would vote Yes if the Provision related to Disney was removed and in this way. Bring boatloads of Japanese island construction workers to the JP islands to add to them and link them by land together. Bring Trump Wall builders over to get the perimeter megaton wall built around the edges and Germans to build a large dome over all of it.

Any Dino outside the dome is terminated.

Natural environment within the dome would let them all live in a natural state while paying customers buy view time on live feeds of the mega island and inhabitants. No direct human involvment within the dome is required and even oceanic hotels could be built around the mega island to support tourist dollars and offset costs.

This as a game issue by the thread master would be a great addition to what we already have too. Long live JP and JW.


Sound like a rather stable idea. Now we need to form a massive man hunt for Professor Wu. Everyone look for this person!

http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Henry_Wu
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Postby Nazis in Space » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:33 am

Personally, I feel that we should release velociraptors into the American wild.*

Granted, I feel much the same about releasing a couple thousand fertilised Vespa Mandarinia queens in the American north-west...

* Velociraptor proper lived in arid to semi-arid environments, and should be decently-suited from the prairies and deserts in the west and south-west. Deinonychus lived in a much wetter, warmer environment, and should thrieve in places like Florida and Louisiana. Jurassic Park Velociraptors probably thrieve just about everywhere, being the quasi-magical creatures they are.

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Postby Auze » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:19 am

Austria Minor wrote:
Eaglemount wrote:We would vote Yes if the Provision related to Disney was removed and in this way. Bring boatloads of Japanese island construction workers to the JP islands to add to them and link them by land together. Bring Trump Wall builders over to get the perimeter megaton wall built around the edges and Germans to build a large dome over all of it.

Any Dino outside the dome is terminated.

Natural environment within the dome would let them all live in a natural state while paying customers buy view time on live feeds of the mega island and inhabitants. No direct human involvment within the dome is required and even oceanic hotels could be built around the mega island to support tourist dollars and offset costs.

This as a game issue by the thread master would be a great addition to what we already have too. Long live JP and JW.


Sound like a rather stable idea. Now we need to form a massive man hunt for Professor Wu. Everyone look for this person!

http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Henry_Wu

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:32 am

Ifreann wrote:
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They would be sedated and the implant would be tiny but the explosion big in case a dinosaur escaped.

It is generally not easy to make something tiny produce a big explosion.

You'd be surprised what a little C4 in the right place can do to flesh. Put some next to the spinal column, a little next to the heart, and bam, dead dino.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:35 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Newsflash: humans are superior and more deserving of life than vicious dinosaurs.

If you think otherwise then I question your loyalty to humanity.


All creatures are equal.

Even all the animals who die for your food?

Why aren't you saving all of them, San Lumen?

Why aren't you making Disney take in all the cows and chickens and pigs?
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Postby Austria Minor » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:28 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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All creatures are equal.

Even all the animals who die for your food?

Why aren't you saving all of them, San Lumen?

Why aren't you making Disney take in all the cows and chickens and pigs?


I mean we could do that but a lot of 'Carnivorous Humans' would be upset at not getting their tasty hamburger. I mean we should all go vegan mates!

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