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LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan

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Favorite Left Wing Novelist or Playwright

George Orwell
141
63%
Leo Tolstoy
28
13%
Maxim Gorky
4
2%
Oscar Wilde
17
8%
John Sommerfield
1
0%
Nikolay Ostrovsky
3
1%
Andrei Bely
1
0%
John Steinbeck
22
10%
Arthur Miller
6
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West Leas Oros
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Postby West Leas Oros » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:25 am

Cekoviu wrote:Daily reminder that elections are a spook.

Elections are my property. Just like everything else. :^)
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The Multiversal Communist Collective
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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:04 pm

Thermodolia wrote:How exactly is one a war criminal when they haven’t committed any war crimes? Even while he was a sergeant in the army during the waning days of WW2 he wouldn’t let any abuses happen to the German people under his command, even though he could have done anything he wanted as he had complete and absolute control.


For example

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Free American Empire-
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Postby Free American Empire- » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:16 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Daily reminder that elections are a spook.

Tbh, I don't even really know, for which party to vote, as none of them are really appealing for me. Most of them are too right-wing for me, and fiscal conservative.
I have moved this nation to the Silver Commonwealth, just like Frievolk did with Asmundia, as too many people seemed to confuse the old name with new one.

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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:20 pm

Free American Empire- wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Daily reminder that elections are a spook.

Tbh, I don't even really know, for which party to vote, as none of them are really appealing for me. Most of them are too right-wing for me, and fiscal conservative.

How about the Hoxhaist American Party of Labor?
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:21 pm

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:How exactly is one a war criminal when they haven’t committed any war crimes? Even while he was a sergeant in the army during the waning days of WW2 he wouldn’t let any abuses happen to the German people under his command, even though he could have done anything he wanted as he had complete and absolute control.


For example

Not one of those supposed actions is a war crime. Crime against humanity is possible but it’s not a war crime. So thank you for playing
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:24 pm

Free American Empire- wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Daily reminder that elections are a spook.

Tbh, I don't even really know, for which party to vote, as none of them are really appealing for me. Most of them are too right-wing for me, and fiscal conservative.

The problem I have is that there’s really no Left Syndicalist Nationalist party or just a left nationalist party out there. Shame, gonna have to create my own and win elections or create one after the coup.
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
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Free American Empire-
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Postby Free American Empire- » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:24 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Free American Empire- wrote:Tbh, I don't even really know, for which party to vote, as none of them are really appealing for me. Most of them are too right-wing for me, and fiscal conservative.

How about the Hoxhaist American Party of Labor?

Well, I am not an American, so that probably is not going to be an option.

In fact, I have an OOC factbook in my sig, where my views are more explained.
I have moved this nation to the Silver Commonwealth, just like Frievolk did with Asmundia, as too many people seemed to confuse the old name with new one.

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Free American Empire-
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Postby Free American Empire- » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Free American Empire- wrote:Tbh, I don't even really know, for which party to vote, as none of them are really appealing for me. Most of them are too right-wing for me, and fiscal conservative.

The problem I have is that there’s really no Left Syndicalist Nationalist party or just a left nationalist party out there. Shame, gonna have to create my own and win elections or create one after the coup.

Yeah, left nationalist parties should be more common.
I have moved this nation to the Silver Commonwealth, just like Frievolk did with Asmundia, as too many people seemed to confuse the old name with new one.

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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:28 pm

Free American Empire- wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:How about the Hoxhaist American Party of Labor?

Well, I am not an American, so that probably is not going to be an option.

In fact, I have an OOC factbook in my sig, where my views are more explained.

Oh. I don't know a thing about Latvian politics, so I have no idea what to tell you.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Free American Empire- wrote:Tbh, I don't even really know, for which party to vote, as none of them are really appealing for me. Most of them are too right-wing for me, and fiscal conservative.

The problem I have is that there’s really no Left Syndicalist Nationalist party or just a left nationalist party out there. Shame, gonna have to create my own and win elections or create one after the coup.

I think there's a few fascist parties active right now. :^)
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Free American Empire-
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Postby Free American Empire- » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:33 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Free American Empire- wrote:Well, I am not an American, so that probably is not going to be an option.

In fact, I have an OOC factbook in my sig, where my views are more explained.

Oh. I don't know a thing about Latvian politics, so I have no idea what to tell you.

Well, our politics are mostly center-right, or right wing, and even our social democrat tax policy is rather right wing. In fact, progressive tax wasn't in any party's program. However, in the last year, ruling coalition finally agreed on that.
I have moved this nation to the Silver Commonwealth, just like Frievolk did with Asmundia, as too many people seemed to confuse the old name with new one.

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The United Colonies of Earth
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:34 pm

i miss the days when neologisms not seen outside the internet weren't ideological descriptions.

Cekoviu wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The problem I have is that there’s really no Left Syndicalist Nationalist party or just a left nationalist party out there. Shame, gonna have to create my own and win elections or create one after the coup.

I think there's a few fascist parties active right now. :^)

Oh chill, the facists were perfectly happy to keep the title in the hands of the businessmen as long as they produced what they wanted them to.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:36 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The problem I have is that there’s really no Left Syndicalist Nationalist party or just a left nationalist party out there. Shame, gonna have to create my own and win elections or create one after the coup.

I think there's a few fascist parties active right now. :^)

What kind of moron do you take me for?
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The Multiversal Communist Collective
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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:52 pm

Cekoviu wrote:I think there's a few fascist parties active right now. :^)


They need to be fought with every ounce of strength one can muster.

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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:57 pm

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I think there's a few fascist parties active right now. :^)


They need to be fought with every ounce of strength one can muster.

They have like a couple thousand members, so they aren't that big of a threat.
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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:50 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:
They need to be fought with every ounce of strength one can muster.

They have like a couple thousand members, so they aren't that big of a threat.

I'm not as worried about them winning elections as I am about them using their organizations to intimidate and hurt people at a local level.
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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:56 pm

Cekoviu wrote:How about the Hoxhaist American Party of Labor?


There is also an American Labor Party (apparently unrelated).

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Postby Cappuccina » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:01 pm

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:How about the Hoxhaist American Party of Labor?


There is also an American Labor Party (apparently unrelated).

I've never even heard of them.
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Postby Irou » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:03 pm

http://www.plp.org/
Why are there so many Labor parties in America?
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:05 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Eisarnathiuda wrote:

"First Stage of Communism"

Assuming you ever get that far and survive ideological cannibalism.


*laughs in, like, twenty French revolutions*

*laughs in all the leftist French revolutions that actually had permancence*
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Postby Cappuccina » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:06 pm

Irou wrote:http://www.plp.org/
Why are there so many Labor parties in America?

What makes it hilarious is that they expect to get anything done being splintered like that.....all while following a moribund ideology.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:20 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
*laughs in, like, twenty French revolutions*

*laughs in all the leftist French revolutions that actually had permancence*


*laughs in 0 libertarian societies (except 1980s Somalia)*
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Postby Rashidi Jabal Shammar » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:21 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:*laughs in all the leftist French revolutions that actually had permancence*


*laughs in 0 libertarian societies (except 1980s Somalia)*

Tha-a-at's w-r-r-rong actually.

The Commonwealth of Iceland was basically libertarian bruh.
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:23 pm

Rashidi Jabal Shammar wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
*laughs in 0 libertarian societies (except 1980s Somalia)*

Tha-a-at's w-r-r-rong actually.

The Commonwealth of Iceland was basically libertarian bruh.


>tfw you have to look to the medieval era to justify libertarianism

at least us anarchists have the 20th and 21st century to look at :^)
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:29 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:*laughs in all the leftist French revolutions that actually had permancence*


*laughs in 0 libertarian societies (except 1980s Somalia)*

"tu quoque" is not an argument. Also, quite a lot of liberal democracies could fit a generous definition of a libertarian society, in that they're socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
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