US Midterm Election 2018 Megathread- It's Kavanaugh

[Telconi]

You do realize that people are capable of coming to the conclusion that policy is of more impact than personal behavior right? And that they can do this without the Russians telling them so?

Well, when personal behaviour includes bragging of borderline assault, a history of being a conman, mocking the disabled, potential foreign collusion and ties to the mafia I'd bloody well hope it would be of more impact that whatever he pays lip service to for votes.

Apparently not though.

Why should it be? They aren't going to institute mandatory pussy grabbing for all the citizenry.

[Telconi]

You do realize that people are capable of coming to the conclusion that policy is of more impact than personal behavior right? And that they can do this without the Russians telling them so?

I don't think Trump supporters really care about his policies. Some care about abortion and guns above everything else and some might have liked his talk about tariffs, but I think most backed him because of his personality (e.g. misogynistic, racist, ignorant, narcissistic) because of what it represents and as a backlash against improving women and minority rights. He doesn't know anything about healthcare or foreign policy and changes his mind every second. He just signed off on republican tax cuts. He gets ignored by his own congress on spending cuts and his half baked wall idea. He is pretty ineffective on his already ineffective policies for republicans to sell their souls for him.

As long as he sends angry tweets at famous black people and disgusts feminists campaigning against sexual assault, his supporters will be happy. That's why they voted for him and that's why they'll ignore whatever Mueller or his accusers have to say. Regardless of any possible treason or sexual assault, he has their back in the culture wars and that is the only thing he does well and his supporters love him for it. The rest is secondary.

[Tobleste]

I don't think Trump supporters really care about his policies. Some care about abortion and guns above everything else and some might have liked his talk about tariffs, but I think most backed him because of his personality (e.g. misogynistic, racist, ignorant, narcissistic) because of what it represents and as a backlash against improving women and minority rights. He doesn't know anything about healthcare or foreign policy and changes his mind every second. He just signed off on republican tax cuts. He gets ignored by his own congress on spending cuts and his half baked wall idea. He is pretty ineffective on his already ineffective policies for republicans to sell their souls for him.

As long as he sends angry tweets at famous black people and disgusts feminists campaigning against sexual assault, his supporters will be happy. That's why they voted for him and that's why they'll ignore whatever Mueller or his accusers have to say. Regardless of any possible treason or sexual assault, he has their back in the culture wars and that is the only thing he does well and his supporters love him for it. The rest is secondary.

To be fair, that response is as good and detailed as any explanation of voting for Trump I've heard over the last 2 years.

[Albrenia]

Well, when personal behaviour includes bragging of borderline assault, a history of being a conman, mocking the disabled, potential foreign collusion and ties to the mafia I'd bloody well hope it would be of more impact that whatever he pays lip service to for votes.

Apparently not though.

Why should it be? They aren't going to institute mandatory pussy grabbing for all the citizenry.

Because it kind of matters if a your President has a tendency to break his word, take advantage of the less fortunate, ignore the law and potentially has ties to organised crime and/or a foreign adversary.

A conman saying 'I'll get us right out of Syria!' is nice and all, but it doesn't mean you should ignore the fact he's a conman and probably doesn't care about his word once he's in power.

[Telconi]

To be fair, that response is as good and detailed as any explanation of voting for Trump I've heard over the last 2 years.

Make foolish posts, get dismissive replies.

[Telconi]

Why should it be? They aren't going to institute mandatory pussy grabbing for all the citizenry.

Because it kind of matters if a your President has a tendency to break his word, take advantage of the less fortunate, ignore the law and potentially has ties to organised crime and/or a foreign adversary.

A conman saying 'I'll get us right out of Syria!' is nice and all, but it doesn't mean you should ignore the fact he's a conman and probably doesn't care about his word once he's in power.

Rather he does or doesn't get us out of Syria is a policy, rather he pushe's an agenda detrimental to the less fortunate is a policy, the laws he ignores are unlikely to harm me, the people he has ties with are unlikely to harm me.

I'm not saying he isn't any of those things, or that any of those things aren't negative, it's simply a weighing of likely outcomes.

[Thuzbekistan]

To be fair, that response is as good and detailed as any explanation of voting for Trump I've heard over the last 2 years.

Make foolish posts, get dismissive replies.

Yes lol

[New Emeline]

Because it kind of matters if a your President has a tendency to break his word, take advantage of the less fortunate, ignore the law and potentially has ties to organised crime and/or a foreign adversary.

A conman saying 'I'll get us right out of Syria!' is nice and all, but it doesn't mean you should ignore the fact he's a conman and probably doesn't care about his word once he's in power.

Rather he does or doesn't get us out of Syria is a policy, rather he pushe's an agenda detrimental to the less fortunate is a policy, the laws he ignores are unlikely to harm me, the people he has ties with are unlikely to harm me.

I'm not saying he isn't any of those things, or that any of those things aren't negative, it's simply a weighing of likely outcomes.

It may not harm you, that doesn't mean he isn't harming people.

[Telconi]

Rather he does or doesn't get us out of Syria is a policy, rather he pushe's an agenda detrimental to the less fortunate is a policy, the laws he ignores are unlikely to harm me, the people he has ties with are unlikely to harm me.

I'm not saying he isn't any of those things, or that any of those things aren't negative, it's simply a weighing of likely outcomes.

It may not harm you, that doesn't mean he isn't harming people.

Same holds true for everything.

[New Emeline]

It may not harm you, that doesn't mean he isn't harming people.

Same holds true for everything.

Yes? What is your disagreement?

[Telconi]

Same holds true for everything.

Yes? What is your disagreement?

It holds true as much for everyone as for me, voting based upon what other people want is foolish and wrong.

[New Emeline]

Yes? What is your disagreement?

It holds true as much for everyone as for me, voting based upon what other people want is foolish and wrong.

So is voting based on only yourself.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

the laws he ignores are unlikely to harm me, the people he has ties with are unlikely to harm me.

Just because it doesn't harm you in particular doesn't mean the rule of law should be ignored or thrown out the window.

[Telconi]

It holds true as much for everyone as for me, voting based upon what other people want is foolish and wrong.

So is voting based on only yourself.

It's based upon myself and my child who I make decisions on behalf of.

[Telconi]

the laws he ignores are unlikely to harm me, the people he has ties with are unlikely to harm me.

Just because it doesn't harm you in particular doesn't mean the rule of law should be ignored or thrown out the window.

No, but it also isn't paramount.

[Arlenton]

It holds true as much for everyone as for me, voting based upon what other people want is foolish and wrong.

So is voting based on only yourself.

Actually it's best kind of voting.

[New Emeline]

So is voting based on only yourself.

It's based upon myself and my child who I make decisions on behalf of.

And what? Just screw everybody else? Looking out for your own is one thing, but just completely ignoring the problems of other people isn't a great way to go about one's life.

[Arlenton]

It's based upon myself and my child who I make decisions on behalf of.

And what? Just screw everybody else? Looking out for your own is one thing, but just completely ignoring the problems of other people isn't a great way to go about one's life.

When voting in favor of "other people with problems", it seems to harm me.

So... best not to do that.

[New Emeline]

And what? Just screw everybody else? Looking out for your own is one thing, but just completely ignoring the problems of other people isn't a great way to go about one's life.

When voting in favor of "other people with problems", it seems to harm me.

So... best not to do that.

Not always.

[Telconi]

It's based upon myself and my child who I make decisions on behalf of.

And what? Just screw everybody else? Looking out for your own is one thing, but just completely ignoring the problems of other people isn't a great way to go about one's life.

Neither is prioritizing the well being of strangers over the well being of yourself and someone entitled to your consideration.

Secondly, in a general sense, I was, because my selecting the candidate I perceived as better I was picking the better pick for everyone, not just myself.

Lastly, this once more can go the other way just as easily.

[Arlenton]

When voting in favor of "other people with problems", it seems to harm me.

So... best not to do that.

Not always.

Voting in favor of raising taxes may help other people, but not me. So why would I do it?

I do vote in a certain way on issues that have no effect on me, and it's generally in favor of people who benefit me.

[Bigboinationm8]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/gop-rigs-elections-gerrymandering-voter-id-laws-dark-money-w515664

Who needs Russians to hack elections when we got Republicans to rig them? If the GOP some how win because of their election rigging we may have to find a way to force election reform whether Republicans like it or not.

Its called voting and people not voting against their own interests. Plus gerrymandering is now before the Supreme Court and based on oral arguments and questions by the justices the possibility is there they could rule it unconstitutional once and for all or at least put limits on it.

Honestly gerrymandering is more race based. For example. In the Dallas district area, they manipulate the districts with Latinos/African Americans and white Americans in separate districts. I learned this in a human geography class and it does turn out to be true. I don’t like gerrymandering on both sides.

[Telconi]

Its called voting and people not voting against their own interests. Plus gerrymandering is now before the Supreme Court and based on oral arguments and questions by the justices the possibility is there they could rule it unconstitutional once and for all or at least put limits on it.

Honestly gerrymandering is more race based. For example. In the Dallas district area, they manipulate the districts with Latinos/African Americans and white Americans in separate districts. I learned this in a human geography class and it does turn out to be true. I don’t like gerrymandering on both sides.

I dislike the whole position of supporting gerrymandering based on some aspects and not another. If gerrymandering is wrong, then it is wrong for all criteria.

[Cannot think of a name]

It's based upon myself and my child who I make decisions on behalf of.

And what? Just screw everybody else? Looking out for your own is one thing, but just completely ignoring the problems of other people isn't a great way to go about one's life.

This attitude is also why no one can get anywhere on I405

[Jerzylvania]

It's based upon myself and my child who I make decisions on behalf of.

And what? Just screw everybody else? Looking out for your own is one thing, but just completely ignoring the problems of other people isn't a great way to go about one's life.

Cats pretty much do that.
*shrugs*