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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:13 pm

I normally wouldn't care but I just noticed how expensive Legos are becoming.

Were they always like $40 for a medium set and up to $130 for a large set?

Jesus. If I had known that I would have told my parents not to buy me them and focus on the retro video games.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:15 pm

The Rich Port wrote:I normally wouldn't care but I just noticed how expensive Legos are becoming.

Were they always like $40 for a medium set and up to $130 for a large set?

Jesus. If I had known that I would have told my parents not to buy me them and focus on the retro video games.


Dunno. I just never bought them there. Lol
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Postby Kannap » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:18 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:I normally wouldn't care but I just noticed how expensive Legos are becoming.

Were they always like $40 for a medium set and up to $130 for a large set?

Jesus. If I had known that I would have told my parents not to buy me them and focus on the retro video games.


Dunno. I just never bought them there. Lol


Legos are expensive in general, no matter where you buy them, if you're getting them new.
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Postby 95X » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:23 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:At worst, it'll fill their mind with all the BS running rampant online.
I'm more inclined with this thought TBH.

As for those wondering where people will buy toys, the other places people buy toys (think Walmart, Target, online at Amazon, etc.) will still have some of them. Some of the articles I've read are forecasting that toy sales may permanently drop 10-15% because Toys R Us was the last full-fledged toy store that carried product lines year-round at full price.
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Postby R249 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:29 pm

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R249 wrote:Toys R Us is over in America? Good to hear it. Goodbye.

https://www.toysrusinc.com/press/toysrus-kicks-off-fundraising-campaign-to-benefit-autism-speaks
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/toysrus-canadas-annual-puzzle-piece-fundraising-campaign-in-support-of-autism-speaks-canada-is-back-574239701.html

If Toys R Us likes giving their proceeds to a genocide-loving so-called "charity", then I welcome its demise.

Some people just gotta score points even if it's not a game. Citation needed of the charity supporting genocide.

There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/

And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.
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Postby Dylar » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:52 pm

The Rich Port wrote:I normally wouldn't care but I just noticed how expensive Legos are becoming.

Were they always like $40 for a medium set and up to $130 for a large set?

Jesus. If I had known that I would have told my parents not to buy me them and focus on the retro video games.

LEGO sets used to be cheaper if I remember. Now it's $15 for a LEGO Star Wars battle pack, which is a small set containing about 5-ish figures and maybe 1 or 2 things to build. They were your army builder sets. When I was younger...in the early 2000's, they used to be about $5-ish, cause I remember being able to buy more of them than I can right now...
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:56 pm

R249 wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Some people just gotta score points even if it's not a game. Citation needed of the charity supporting genocide.

There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/

And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.

An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:00 pm

R249 wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Some people just gotta score points even if it's not a game. Citation needed of the charity supporting genocide.

There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/

And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.


The owner of that website describes herself as "Sarah Vaughter is a dermaneedling expert and an investigative blogger regarding health matters." and the other two people the website mentions as contributors (I guess) don't sound much more credible.
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Petrasylvania wrote:
R249 wrote:There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/

And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.

An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.

Yes, the sause is bad, but Autism Speaks is a shit organization.

You can't cure Autism.

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Postby R249 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:01 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
R249 wrote:There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/

And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.

An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.

OK, bear with me here. One small mistake, but I think I can be more convincing.

OK, I should have looked at what website it was; mistake there officially admitted! But it's not like that's the only article I've read. Yeah, it turned out to be a defintiely biased disability rights advocacy website that happened to be owned by the same people as...something, hard to tell what exactly. Should have checked before using that article But a good point is a good point, regardless. Between ethos, pathos, and logos arguments, logos ones work the best on me, not ethos. And I can redeem myself.

Regardless, I've read a lot more articles saying something along the lines of the same thing - at the most extreme, Autism Speaks is a genocidal hate group against autistics, not a charity for autistics, and at the least extreme, it's irresponsible. My point of view leans towards the more extreme side, and if Toys R Us supports Autism Speaks that much, I will have no sympathy. And it's not like I've never seen the opposing side - I'm more rational than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Controversies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement

But I'll start over the whole argument anyway. And instead of rushed article posting, I'll be more careful this time. So this is why I disapprove of Autism Speaks and by extension Toys R Us.

As the Wikipedia (AKA reputable website) articles I posted clearly state with citations all over the place, Autism Speaks has been accused of hateful or fearmongering rhetoric for reasons I absolutely understand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Rhetoric_used, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Autism_is_not_a_disorder) Autism Speaks is obviously looking to "cure" it, despite it arguably being less similar "to curing cancer but instead to the antiquated notion of curing left-handedness". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Notion_of_"curing"_autism_is_offensive) A lot of autistics like having autism. The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network is probably the most significant autism rights advocacy group in the world and they're obviously compased of autistics, and they write articles, too. (http://asancentralohio.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-autism-speaks-does-not-speak-for-us.html - 2009 is a little old, but it's not like Autism Speaks was suddenly taken over by neurodiversity advocates in less than a decade.) In fact, the autistic community is pretty divided on it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociologi ... _of_autism) Autism affects how the brain develops. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_sp ... physiology) So it's unreasonable to think an already-developed brain capable of making the choice could be "cured". And Autism Speaks wants to end autism anyway.

But it gets worse. Autism Speaks wants prevention. (https://www.autismspeaks.org/site-wide/ ... prevention) Since autism starts pretty early (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum), preventing it would logically need to either be through abortion or through avoiding potential environmental markers. Abortion is murder, murder against a certain genetic group is genocide. Said Autism Self-Advocacy Network has argued that this means abortion due to the heavy concentration on genetic markers. (http://autisticadvocacy.tumblr.com/post ... m-confused - Yeah, it's a Tumblr post, but it's a Tumblr post by a reputable organization.)

And Toys R Us just so happens to support them...
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Postby Zanera » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:57 pm

R249 wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.

OK, bear with me here. One small mistake, but I think I can be more convincing.

OK, I should have looked at what website it was; mistake there officially admitted! But it's not like that's the only article I've read. Yeah, it turned out to be a defintiely biased disability rights advocacy website that happened to be owned by the same people as...something, hard to tell what exactly. Should have checked before using that article But a good point is a good point, regardless. Between ethos, pathos, and logos arguments, logos ones work the best on me, not ethos. And I can redeem myself.

Regardless, I've read a lot more articles saying something along the lines of the same thing - at the most extreme, Autism Speaks is a genocidal hate group against autistics, not a charity for autistics, and at the least extreme, it's irresponsible. My point of view leans towards the more extreme side, and if Toys R Us supports Autism Speaks that much, I will have no sympathy. And it's not like I've never seen the opposing side - I'm more rational than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Controversies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement

But I'll start over the whole argument anyway. And instead of rushed article posting, I'll be more careful this time. So this is why I disapprove of Autism Speaks and by extension Toys R Us.

As the Wikipedia (AKA reputable website) articles I posted clearly state with citations all over the place, Autism Speaks has been accused of hateful or fearmongering rhetoric for reasons I absolutely understand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Rhetoric_used, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Autism_is_not_a_disorder) Autism Speaks is obviously looking to "cure" it, despite it arguably being less similar "to curing cancer but instead to the antiquated notion of curing left-handedness". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Notion_of_"curing"_autism_is_offensive) A lot of autistics like having autism. The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network is probably the most significant autism rights advocacy group in the world and they're obviously compased of autistics, and they write articles, too. (http://asancentralohio.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-autism-speaks-does-not-speak-for-us.html - 2009 is a little old, but it's not like Autism Speaks was suddenly taken over by neurodiversity advocates in less than a decade.) In fact, the autistic community is pretty divided on it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociologi ... _of_autism) Autism affects how the brain develops. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_sp ... physiology) So it's unreasonable to think an already-developed brain capable of making the choice could be "cured". And Autism Speaks wants to end autism anyway.

But it gets worse. Autism Speaks wants prevention. (https://www.autismspeaks.org/site-wide/ ... prevention) Since autism starts pretty early (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum), preventing it would logically need to either be through abortion or through avoiding potential environmental markers. Abortion is murder, murder against a certain genetic group is genocide. Said Autism Self-Advocacy Network has argued that this means abortion due to the heavy concentration on genetic markers. (http://autisticadvocacy.tumblr.com/post ... m-confused - Yeah, it's a Tumblr post, but it's a Tumblr post by a reputable organization.)

And Toys R Us just so happens to support them...


Either way, they want to liquidate and shut down the company so its not going to matter.

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Postby Empire of Narnia » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:46 pm

Toys R Us Canada will hopefully stick around. From what I've heard a company is already interested in buying the Canadian stores.

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Postby R249 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:50 am

Zanera wrote:
R249 wrote:OK, bear with me here. One small mistake, but I think I can be more convincing.

OK, I should have looked at what website it was; mistake there officially admitted! But it's not like that's the only article I've read. Yeah, it turned out to be a defintiely biased disability rights advocacy website that happened to be owned by the same people as...something, hard to tell what exactly. Should have checked before using that article But a good point is a good point, regardless. Between ethos, pathos, and logos arguments, logos ones work the best on me, not ethos. And I can redeem myself.

Regardless, I've read a lot more articles saying something along the lines of the same thing - at the most extreme, Autism Speaks is a genocidal hate group against autistics, not a charity for autistics, and at the least extreme, it's irresponsible. My point of view leans towards the more extreme side, and if Toys R Us supports Autism Speaks that much, I will have no sympathy. And it's not like I've never seen the opposing side - I'm more rational than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Controversies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement

But I'll start over the whole argument anyway. And instead of rushed article posting, I'll be more careful this time. So this is why I disapprove of Autism Speaks and by extension Toys R Us.

As the Wikipedia (AKA reputable website) articles I posted clearly state with citations all over the place, Autism Speaks has been accused of hateful or fearmongering rhetoric for reasons I absolutely understand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Rhetoric_used, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Autism_is_not_a_disorder) Autism Speaks is obviously looking to "cure" it, despite it arguably being less similar "to curing cancer but instead to the antiquated notion of curing left-handedness". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Notion_of_"curing"_autism_is_offensive) A lot of autistics like having autism. The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network is probably the most significant autism rights advocacy group in the world and they're obviously compased of autistics, and they write articles, too. (http://asancentralohio.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-autism-speaks-does-not-speak-for-us.html - 2009 is a little old, but it's not like Autism Speaks was suddenly taken over by neurodiversity advocates in less than a decade.) In fact, the autistic community is pretty divided on it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociologi ... _of_autism) Autism affects how the brain develops. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_sp ... physiology) So it's unreasonable to think an already-developed brain capable of making the choice could be "cured". And Autism Speaks wants to end autism anyway.

But it gets worse. Autism Speaks wants prevention. (https://www.autismspeaks.org/site-wide/ ... prevention) Since autism starts pretty early (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum), preventing it would logically need to either be through abortion or through avoiding potential environmental markers. Abortion is murder, murder against a certain genetic group is genocide. Said Autism Self-Advocacy Network has argued that this means abortion due to the heavy concentration on genetic markers. (http://autisticadvocacy.tumblr.com/post ... m-confused - Yeah, it's a Tumblr post, but it's a Tumblr post by a reputable organization.)

And Toys R Us just so happens to support them...


Either way, they want to liquidate and shut down the company so its not going to matter.

True. But the point is that I welcome its end.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:56 am

Rip Toys R Us


Though i think ive only been in a toys r us store once when i was younger.
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Postby Skylus » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:03 am

People in Indiana - the ones around Indy are already 50-60% off.

Might go down there this weekend.

Not sure what I'd get though, I've grown out of basically everything there, save for Legos.

They DO sell musical stuff, though.....And video games....How much are Switches down there, I wonder.....
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They got killed by the int3rnet which is sort of strange as they had an early web presence. It just never went anywhere.
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I remember that they have (had?) a HUGE bike and ride on section, near the back.....lefttttt?????

Past few times I've been in there is only to see if they had any Legos on sale (which they never almost do.)
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:29 am

IVe never been to toys r us actually
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Postby Dylar » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:42 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:IVe never been to toys r us actually

Think of a grocery store but every section is the toys section. And the toys are divided up by brands. Oh, and you also have an electronics section that sells video games, consoles, iPods, and their accessories.

and baby stuff like clothes, car seats, etc.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:45 am

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:IVe never been to toys r us actually

Think of a grocery store but every section is the toys section.

In other words, a toy store.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:46 am

Dylar wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:IVe never been to toys r us actually

Think of a grocery store but every section is the toys section. And the toys are divided up by brands. Oh, and you also have an electronics section that sells video games, consoles, iPods, and their accessories.

and baby stuff like clothes, car seats, etc.

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Postby Skylus » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:46 am

Dylar wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:IVe never been to toys r us actually

Think of a grocery store but every section is the toys section. And the toys are divided up by brands. Oh, and you also have an electronics section that sells video games, consoles, iPods, and their accessories.

and baby stuff like clothes, car seats, etc.



and bikes and ride on stuff, and books, and musical stuff

and food (candy and stuff up at the front)
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Ifreann wrote:
Dylar wrote:Think of a grocery store but every section is the toys section.

In other words, a toy store.

Yes. I just wanted to make a run-on sentence. Do you know how long it's been since I last made a run-on what with three of my classes demanding that I don't do that?
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Petrasylvania wrote:An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.

OK, bear with me here. One small mistake, but I think I can be more convincing.

OK, I should have looked at what website it was; mistake there officially admitted! But it's not like that's the only article I've read. Yeah, it turned out to be a defintiely biased disability rights advocacy website that happened to be owned by the same people as...something, hard to tell what exactly. Should have checked before using that article But a good point is a good point, regardless. Between ethos, pathos, and logos arguments, logos ones work the best on me, not ethos. And I can redeem myself.

Regardless, I've read a lot more articles saying something along the lines of the same thing - at the most extreme, Autism Speaks is a genocidal hate group against autistics, not a charity for autistics, and at the least extreme, it's irresponsible. My point of view leans towards the more extreme side, and if Toys R Us supports Autism Speaks that much, I will have no sympathy. And it's not like I've never seen the opposing side - I'm more rational than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Controversies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement

But I'll start over the whole argument anyway. And instead of rushed article posting, I'll be more careful this time. So this is why I disapprove of Autism Speaks and by extension Toys R Us.

As the Wikipedia (AKA reputable website) articles I posted clearly state with citations all over the place, Autism Speaks has been accused of hateful or fearmongering rhetoric for reasons I absolutely understand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Rhetoric_used, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Autism_is_not_a_disorder) Autism Speaks is obviously looking to "cure" it, despite it arguably being less similar "to curing cancer but instead to the antiquated notion of curing left-handedness". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Notion_of_"curing"_autism_is_offensive) A lot of autistics like having autism. The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network is probably the most significant autism rights advocacy group in the world and they're obviously compased of autistics, and they write articles, too. (http://asancentralohio.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-autism-speaks-does-not-speak-for-us.html - 2009 is a little old, but it's not like Autism Speaks was suddenly taken over by neurodiversity advocates in less than a decade.) In fact, the autistic community is pretty divided on it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociologi ... _of_autism) Autism affects how the brain develops. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_sp ... physiology) So it's unreasonable to think an already-developed brain capable of making the choice could be "cured". And Autism Speaks wants to end autism anyway.

But it gets worse. Autism Speaks wants prevention. (https://www.autismspeaks.org/site-wide/ ... prevention) Since autism starts pretty early (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum), preventing it would logically need to either be through abortion or through avoiding potential environmental markers. Abortion is murder, murder against a certain genetic group is genocide. Said Autism Self-Advocacy Network has argued that this means abortion due to the heavy concentration on genetic markers. (http://autisticadvocacy.tumblr.com/post ... m-confused - Yeah, it's a Tumblr post, but it's a Tumblr post by a reputable organization.)

And Toys R Us just so happens to support them...

So many leaps of logic.
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