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by The Rich Port » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:13 pm
by Shazbotdom » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:15 pm
The Rich Port wrote:I normally wouldn't care but I just noticed how expensive Legos are becoming.
Were they always like $40 for a medium set and up to $130 for a large set?
Jesus. If I had known that I would have told my parents not to buy me them and focus on the retro video games.
by Kannap » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:18 pm
Shazbotdom wrote:The Rich Port wrote:I normally wouldn't care but I just noticed how expensive Legos are becoming.
Were they always like $40 for a medium set and up to $130 for a large set?
Jesus. If I had known that I would have told my parents not to buy me them and focus on the retro video games.
Dunno. I just never bought them there. Lol
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by 95X » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:23 pm
I'm more inclined with this thought TBH.LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:At worst, it'll fill their mind with all the BS running rampant online.
Nation not my RL views, etc.
Poe's Law. Nonpartisan.
by R249 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:29 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:R249 wrote:Toys R Us is over in America? Good to hear it. Goodbye.
https://www.toysrusinc.com/press/toysrus-kicks-off-fundraising-campaign-to-benefit-autism-speaks
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/toysrus-canadas-annual-puzzle-piece-fundraising-campaign-in-support-of-autism-speaks-canada-is-back-574239701.html
If Toys R Us likes giving their proceeds to a genocide-loving so-called "charity", then I welcome its demise.
Some people just gotta score points even if it's not a game. Citation needed of the charity supporting genocide.
by Dylar » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:52 pm
The Rich Port wrote:I normally wouldn't care but I just noticed how expensive Legos are becoming.
Were they always like $40 for a medium set and up to $130 for a large set?
Jesus. If I had known that I would have told my parents not to buy me them and focus on the retro video games.
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by Petrasylvania » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:56 pm
R249 wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Some people just gotta score points even if it's not a game. Citation needed of the charity supporting genocide.
There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/
And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.
by Kannap » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:00 pm
R249 wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Some people just gotta score points even if it's not a game. Citation needed of the charity supporting genocide.
There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/
And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:29 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:R249 wrote:There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/
And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.
An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.
by R249 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:01 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:R249 wrote:There's been multiple accusations of Autism Speaks being genocidal, but this is a good article I read a while ago that really drills in the point.
http://ownshrink.com/neurodiversity/aut ... onal-gain/
And don't even pretend autism is bad. Being autistic myself, I know its advantages.
An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.
by Zanera » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:57 pm
R249 wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.
OK, bear with me here. One small mistake, but I think I can be more convincing.
OK, I should have looked at what website it was; mistake there officially admitted! But it's not like that's the only article I've read. Yeah, it turned out to be a defintiely biased disability rights advocacy website that happened to be owned by the same people as...something, hard to tell what exactly. Should have checked before using that article But a good point is a good point, regardless. Between ethos, pathos, and logos arguments, logos ones work the best on me, not ethos. And I can redeem myself.
Regardless, I've read a lot more articles saying something along the lines of the same thing - at the most extreme, Autism Speaks is a genocidal hate group against autistics, not a charity for autistics, and at the least extreme, it's irresponsible. My point of view leans towards the more extreme side, and if Toys R Us supports Autism Speaks that much, I will have no sympathy. And it's not like I've never seen the opposing side - I'm more rational than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Controversies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement
But I'll start over the whole argument anyway. And instead of rushed article posting, I'll be more careful this time. So this is why I disapprove of Autism Speaks and by extension Toys R Us.
As the Wikipedia (AKA reputable website) articles I posted clearly state with citations all over the place, Autism Speaks has been accused of hateful or fearmongering rhetoric for reasons I absolutely understand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Rhetoric_used, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Autism_is_not_a_disorder) Autism Speaks is obviously looking to "cure" it, despite it arguably being less similar "to curing cancer but instead to the antiquated notion of curing left-handedness". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Notion_of_"curing"_autism_is_offensive) A lot of autistics like having autism. The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network is probably the most significant autism rights advocacy group in the world and they're obviously compased of autistics, and they write articles, too. (http://asancentralohio.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-autism-speaks-does-not-speak-for-us.html - 2009 is a little old, but it's not like Autism Speaks was suddenly taken over by neurodiversity advocates in less than a decade.) In fact, the autistic community is pretty divided on it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociologi ... _of_autism) Autism affects how the brain develops. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_sp ... physiology) So it's unreasonable to think an already-developed brain capable of making the choice could be "cured". And Autism Speaks wants to end autism anyway.
But it gets worse. Autism Speaks wants prevention. (https://www.autismspeaks.org/site-wide/ ... prevention) Since autism starts pretty early (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum), preventing it would logically need to either be through abortion or through avoiding potential environmental markers. Abortion is murder, murder against a certain genetic group is genocide. Said Autism Self-Advocacy Network has argued that this means abortion due to the heavy concentration on genetic markers. (http://autisticadvocacy.tumblr.com/post ... m-confused - Yeah, it's a Tumblr post, but it's a Tumblr post by a reputable organization.)
And Toys R Us just so happens to support them...
by Empire of Narnia » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:46 pm
by R249 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:50 am
Zanera wrote:R249 wrote:OK, bear with me here. One small mistake, but I think I can be more convincing.
OK, I should have looked at what website it was; mistake there officially admitted! But it's not like that's the only article I've read. Yeah, it turned out to be a defintiely biased disability rights advocacy website that happened to be owned by the same people as...something, hard to tell what exactly. Should have checked before using that article But a good point is a good point, regardless. Between ethos, pathos, and logos arguments, logos ones work the best on me, not ethos. And I can redeem myself.
Regardless, I've read a lot more articles saying something along the lines of the same thing - at the most extreme, Autism Speaks is a genocidal hate group against autistics, not a charity for autistics, and at the least extreme, it's irresponsible. My point of view leans towards the more extreme side, and if Toys R Us supports Autism Speaks that much, I will have no sympathy. And it's not like I've never seen the opposing side - I'm more rational than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Controversies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement
But I'll start over the whole argument anyway. And instead of rushed article posting, I'll be more careful this time. So this is why I disapprove of Autism Speaks and by extension Toys R Us.
As the Wikipedia (AKA reputable website) articles I posted clearly state with citations all over the place, Autism Speaks has been accused of hateful or fearmongering rhetoric for reasons I absolutely understand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Rhetoric_used, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Autism_is_not_a_disorder) Autism Speaks is obviously looking to "cure" it, despite it arguably being less similar "to curing cancer but instead to the antiquated notion of curing left-handedness". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Notion_of_"curing"_autism_is_offensive) A lot of autistics like having autism. The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network is probably the most significant autism rights advocacy group in the world and they're obviously compased of autistics, and they write articles, too. (http://asancentralohio.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-autism-speaks-does-not-speak-for-us.html - 2009 is a little old, but it's not like Autism Speaks was suddenly taken over by neurodiversity advocates in less than a decade.) In fact, the autistic community is pretty divided on it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociologi ... _of_autism) Autism affects how the brain develops. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_sp ... physiology) So it's unreasonable to think an already-developed brain capable of making the choice could be "cured". And Autism Speaks wants to end autism anyway.
But it gets worse. Autism Speaks wants prevention. (https://www.autismspeaks.org/site-wide/ ... prevention) Since autism starts pretty early (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum), preventing it would logically need to either be through abortion or through avoiding potential environmental markers. Abortion is murder, murder against a certain genetic group is genocide. Said Autism Self-Advocacy Network has argued that this means abortion due to the heavy concentration on genetic markers. (http://autisticadvocacy.tumblr.com/post ... m-confused - Yeah, it's a Tumblr post, but it's a Tumblr post by a reputable organization.)
And Toys R Us just so happens to support them...
Either way, they want to liquidate and shut down the company so its not going to matter.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:56 am
by Skylus » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:03 am
by Ethel mermania » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:25 am
by Skylus » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:28 am
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:29 am
by Dylar » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:42 am
Internationalist Bastard wrote:IVe never been to toys r us actually
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:46 am
Dylar wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:IVe never been to toys r us actually
Think of a grocery store but every section is the toys section. And the toys are divided up by brands. Oh, and you also have an electronics section that sells video games, consoles, iPods, and their accessories.
and baby stuff like clothes, car seats, etc.
by Skylus » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:46 am
Dylar wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:IVe never been to toys r us actually
Think of a grocery store but every section is the toys section. And the toys are divided up by brands. Oh, and you also have an electronics section that sells video games, consoles, iPods, and their accessories.
and baby stuff like clothes, car seats, etc.
by Dylar » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:46 am
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by Mushet » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:46 am
R249 wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:An alternative medicine website? Not really a shining example. And wanting a condition that usually results in social difficulties is not "genocide" any more than developing a smallpox vaccine. Just because you're fine with being autistic doesn't mean everyone is.
OK, bear with me here. One small mistake, but I think I can be more convincing.
OK, I should have looked at what website it was; mistake there officially admitted! But it's not like that's the only article I've read. Yeah, it turned out to be a defintiely biased disability rights advocacy website that happened to be owned by the same people as...something, hard to tell what exactly. Should have checked before using that article But a good point is a good point, regardless. Between ethos, pathos, and logos arguments, logos ones work the best on me, not ethos. And I can redeem myself.
Regardless, I've read a lot more articles saying something along the lines of the same thing - at the most extreme, Autism Speaks is a genocidal hate group against autistics, not a charity for autistics, and at the least extreme, it's irresponsible. My point of view leans towards the more extreme side, and if Toys R Us supports Autism Speaks that much, I will have no sympathy. And it's not like I've never seen the opposing side - I'm more rational than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Controversies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement
But I'll start over the whole argument anyway. And instead of rushed article posting, I'll be more careful this time. So this is why I disapprove of Autism Speaks and by extension Toys R Us.
As the Wikipedia (AKA reputable website) articles I posted clearly state with citations all over the place, Autism Speaks has been accused of hateful or fearmongering rhetoric for reasons I absolutely understand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks#Rhetoric_used, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Autism_is_not_a_disorder) Autism Speaks is obviously looking to "cure" it, despite it arguably being less similar "to curing cancer but instead to the antiquated notion of curing left-handedness". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_rights_movement#Notion_of_"curing"_autism_is_offensive) A lot of autistics like having autism. The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network is probably the most significant autism rights advocacy group in the world and they're obviously compased of autistics, and they write articles, too. (http://asancentralohio.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-autism-speaks-does-not-speak-for-us.html - 2009 is a little old, but it's not like Autism Speaks was suddenly taken over by neurodiversity advocates in less than a decade.) In fact, the autistic community is pretty divided on it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociologi ... _of_autism) Autism affects how the brain develops. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_sp ... physiology) So it's unreasonable to think an already-developed brain capable of making the choice could be "cured". And Autism Speaks wants to end autism anyway.
But it gets worse. Autism Speaks wants prevention. (https://www.autismspeaks.org/site-wide/ ... prevention) Since autism starts pretty early (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum), preventing it would logically need to either be through abortion or through avoiding potential environmental markers. Abortion is murder, murder against a certain genetic group is genocide. Said Autism Self-Advocacy Network has argued that this means abortion due to the heavy concentration on genetic markers. (http://autisticadvocacy.tumblr.com/post ... m-confused - Yeah, it's a Tumblr post, but it's a Tumblr post by a reputable organization.)
And Toys R Us just so happens to support them...
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