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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:18 pm

Lockdownn wrote:I love how NationStates of all websites refuses to do anything about bringing awareness or voicing their disapproval of this action. :rofl:

This action has nothing to do with nationstates.
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Postby Prahara » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:18 pm

This is bad, but it's not surprising. Ajit Pai is just another man bribed by the corporations. I'm far from a socialist, but of course the corporations are going to screw Americans over. It's legal and they can improve their income by doing it, so why wouldn't they? It's not exactly difficult to cover up something perfectly legal. Even if people found out, what are they going to do? Most people would just think "Eh, someone else will do it".

EDIT: By do I meant call them out for it or switch to another provider. Most people probably,y wouldn't bother and it won't just be won't company doing it. Plus a lot of these companies are merging to stay competitive with larger ones.
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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:26 pm

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Kramania wrote:I doubt it. And if it's such a problem then find a new service provider. The beautiful thing about the free market is that you have options. And now you'll have more options.


There are like a handful of service providers of equal (shit) quality, sometimes there's only one option because even though the guys across town can get FiOS, I can only get Comcast.

Curious.

And yet web giants like Facebook and Google favor it because it targets their competition.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:33 pm

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There are like a handful of service providers of equal (shit) quality, sometimes there's only one option because even though the guys across town can get FiOS, I can only get Comcast.

Curious.

And yet web giants like Facebook and Google favor it because it targets their competition.


Completely unrelated to what I just said.
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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:38 pm

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Kramania wrote:And yet web giants like Facebook and Google favor it because it targets their competition.


Completely unrelated to what I just said.

My point is that it throttles the free market and limits consumer options. It's classic crony capitalism.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:40 pm

Kramania wrote:

My point was that these practices weren't widespread, and the hysterical screeching about net neutrality being ended is silly.

>Not widespread
>Literally one of the biggest telecom companies got caught doing it

lel. You really think other companies won't try the same thing? Really?
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:41 pm

Kramania wrote:
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Completely unrelated to what I just said.

My point is that it throttles the free market and limits consumer options. It's classic crony capitalism.


How does net neutrality limit consumer options?

And, still, that does nothing to disprove that ISPs are basically an oligopoly and I am at the whim of whatever the fuck they want to do.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:45 pm

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No, your point was about how abuses of power before Net Neutrality didn't happen, hence your choice of wording in "nonexistent."

And, really, it doesn't matter if it was widespread or not, it's happened more times than you think, and it'll happen again.

I doubt it. And if it's such a problem then find a new service provider. The beautiful thing about the free market is that you have options. And now you'll have more options.

Most places in the US don't have more than 1-2 options, and if Net Neutrality does die, that problems gonna become a lot worse than it currently is.
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Postby Lockdownn » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:49 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:I love how NationStates of all websites refuses to do anything about bringing awareness or voicing their disapproval of this action. :rofl:

This action has nothing to do with nationstates.

How is that?

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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:50 pm

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Lockdownn wrote:I love how NationStates of all websites refuses to do anything about bringing awareness or voicing their disapproval of this action. :rofl:

This action has nothing to do with nationstates.

Is NS a website? Yes? Than it has something to do with NS.

That was easy. :)
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:53 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:This action has nothing to do with nationstates.

Is NS a website? Yes? Than it has something to do with NS.

That was easy. :)

They rather have the nations decide that issue. It's like god, he could voice his opinion but chooses not to.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:54 pm

Just had a thought... maybe Adjit Pai was trying to save the internet. I mean no-one makes videos that cringy. :lol:
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:55 pm

Kramania wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And why wouldn't they want to fuck more people out of there money?

I don't know. There were quite a few mega-corporations shilling to keep net neutrality.

And...?

There was even more wanting us to just give them more fucking money.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:39 pm

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Ethel mermania wrote:This action has nothing to do with nationstates.

How is that?

It doesn't require any real time bandwidth. You think Verizon is going to go "oh Holy cow, we must block that nationstates site because of its.... it's edgy posters"
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Postby Galloism » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:40 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:How is that?

It doesn't require any real time bandwidth. You think Verizon is going to go "oh Holy cow, we must block that nationstates site because of its.... it's edgy posters"

Well, a Canadian company blocked the site of a union it was having trouble with.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:41 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:This action has nothing to do with nationstates.

Is NS a website? Yes? Than it has something to do with NS.

That was easy. :)


If arrogant ignorance is your goal, sure.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:44 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
New haven america wrote:Is NS a website? Yes? Than it has something to do with NS.

That was easy. :)


If arrogant ignorance is your goal, sure.

I see you don't understand how the internet works.

Let's put this simply, if websites are stores or businesses, then ISP's and telecom companies are the mafia trying to extort said stores for all their worth. The only thing keeping them from doing that is the fact that it's illegal to do such things under net neutrality, and now the FCC wants the internet mafia to run free and people like you don't think anything bad will happen.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:44 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:It's doesn't require any real time bandwidth. You think Verizon is going to go "oh Holy cow, we must block that nationstates site because of its.... it's edgy posters"

Well, a Canadian company blocked the site of a union it was having trouble with.


And nationstates is a threat to Verizon or bell canada? The posters are so edgy it's going to cut them to a million pieces.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:45 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, a Canadian company blocked the site of a union it was having trouble with.


And nationstates is a threat to Verizon or bell canada? The posters are so edgy it's going to cut them to a million pieces.

We have lots of edge.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:46 pm

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Ethel mermania wrote:
And nationstates is a threat to Verizon or bell canada? The posters are so edgy it's going to cut them to a million pieces.

We have lots of edge.

Actually, the place is tame in comparison to others.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:46 pm

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I suppose this marks the begining of Trumps presidency as deregulating to make companies more money while people pretend rich people being richer at the expense of poor is helpful.
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Postby Xerconia » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:47 pm

Kramania wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
No, your point was about how abuses of power before Net Neutrality didn't happen, hence your choice of wording in "nonexistent."

And, really, it doesn't matter if it was widespread or not, it's happened more times than you think, and it'll happen again.

I doubt it. And if it's such a problem then find a new service provider. The beautiful thing about the free market is that you have options. And now you'll have more options.


This user has never heard of a "monopoly," likely because he never leaves the house.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:48 pm

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Kramania wrote:I doubt it. And if it's such a problem then find a new service provider. The beautiful thing about the free market is that you have options. And now you'll have more options.


This user has never heard of a "monopoly," likely because he never leaves the house.

Or dreams of owning the monopoly.
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This user has never heard of a "monopoly," likely because he never leaves the house.

Or dreams of owning the monopoly.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:50 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
If arrogant ignorance is your goal, sure.

I see you don't understand how the internet works.

Let's put this simply, if websites are stores or businesses, then ISP's and telecom companies are the mafia trying to extort said stores for all their worth. The only thing keeping them from doing that is the fact that it's illegal to do such things under net neutrality, and now the FCC wants the internet mafia to run free.


Bwahahahahahaha, child I build large networks for a living.
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