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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:30 pm

Minthas wrote:How can anybody forget the beloved Apache Revolver?


Because it was a load of trash?

It was maybe good as a knuckleduster but as a trade off there's no real barrel, the blade was too small to be of any use and the fact it folds means the frame strength is compromised.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:38 pm

Sovaal wrote:Just shot a 10mm Glock, pretty awesome gun.


10mils are really cool guns, a buddy of mine has a 1911 chambered in it and it's a great gun.

Maybe 10mm finally isn't a meme caliber anymore.

Vassenor wrote:A short treatise on the Pittman–Robertson Act and why panic buys are good for the government and environment.

tl;dr : gun and ammo taxes fund conservation projects and panic buys make that kitty bigger.


I'm okay with this. Now if we can pass the SHARE Act and get all the goodies it has dealing with conservation we'd be doing great on that front.
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Postby Minthas » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:54 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Minthas wrote:How can anybody forget the beloved Apache Revolver?


Because it was a load of trash?

It was maybe good as a knuckleduster but as a trade off there's no real barrel, the blade was too small to be of any use and the fact it folds means the frame strength is compromised.

I meant to be sarcastic. :(
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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:03 pm

Telconi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:A short treatise on the Pittman–Robertson Act and why panic buys are good for the government and environment.

tl;dr : gun and ammo taxes fund conservation projects and panic buys make that kitty bigger.


Problem today is, the majority of guns and ammo sales aren't for the sole purpose, or even primary purpose of hunting.

You say that like it's necessarily a bad thing.

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Postby Halfblakistan » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:51 pm

What do people think of the Ruger LCR9? I really like it as a lightweight carry revolver since it has more stopping power than a .38+P, but I wish it had a stub hammer for double/single action.
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Postby Kash Island » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:53 pm

Halfblakistan wrote:What do people think of the Ruger LCR9? I really like it as a lightweight carry revolver since it has more stopping power than a .38+P, but I wish it had a stub hammer for double/single action.


9mm vs 38 plus P

meh, your not really losing out on much, they are both more than adequate to kill someone and can both easily penetrate the human body deep enough.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:36 pm

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Greater Cesnica wrote:I own this Desert Eagle:

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I've had it for two years. Any thoughts or opinions?


Dumb and really gimmicky but kinda cool as a range toy.

It also gets negative points for not being .50.

You have to agree that if some lunatic decided to go on a killing spree with it, it would be superbly lethal, right?
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:41 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I own this Desert Eagle:

http://www.magnumresearch.com/firearms/ ... -black.asp

I've had it for two years. Any thoughts or opinions?


Dumb and really gimmicky but kinda cool as a range toy.

It also gets negative points for not being .50.


The .44 thing was a wise idea. You can't find .50 AE anymore. It wins on the cool factor and practical side.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:55 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Dumb and really gimmicky but kinda cool as a range toy.

It also gets negative points for not being .50.


The .44 thing was a wise idea. You can't find .50 AE anymore. It wins on the cool factor and practical side.

It's also stylish, and I like the grip personally. I can handle the recoil well, so it acts as a great self-defense sidearm. I used it once in the middle of Maine, on a forest trail. It was like 5 in the morning and my mates and I were trekking in the wilderness. Suddenly, we heard footsteps coming to our left, so we used a flashlight to light up a bush. We encountered 3 men with masks on holding knives. One of them lunged at us through the bush, and I unholstered my pistol, and having left the safety off, fired immediately into the bush. I let off four shots, and I believe I may have grazed one of the men. In any case, they fled into the forest, and we never saw them again. We didn't inform the Sheriff's Office, so it's just another creepy experience for us. Another reason why bearing arms should be an essential right of any safety-conscious citizen.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:07 pm

So yesterday on Facebook a news radio station that I follow posted a link to an article on a gun buyback program, complete with the obligatory picture of all the guns that people turned in. As you probably guessed, it was basically a pile of old hunting rifles.

The best part though was the comments section, where one keyboard warrior claimed that no rifle can pierce body armor, and even played the "I'll be the guinea pig and prove you wrong" card.

I'd hate to be him when someone shows up with a Barrett...
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:08 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:So yesterday on Facebook a news radio station that I follow posted a link to an article on a gun buyback program, complete with the obligatory picture of all the guns that people turned in. As you probably guessed, it was basically a pile of old hunting rifles.

The best part though was the comments section, where one keyboard warrior claimed that no rifle can pierce body armor, and even played the "I'll be the guinea pig and prove you wrong" card.

I'd hate to be him when someone shows up with a Barrett...

Get him to post his address :P
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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:15 pm

Autonomous Titoists wrote:
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Problem today is, the majority of guns and ammo sales aren't for the sole purpose, or even primary purpose of hunting.

You say that like it's necessarily a bad thing.


Uhh, it is... Taxing non-hunting weapons for hunting based conservation is a bad thing.

The Two Jerseys wrote:So yesterday on Facebook a news radio station that I follow posted a link to an article on a gun buyback program, complete with the obligatory picture of all the guns that people turned in. As you probably guessed, it was basically a pile of old hunting rifles.

The best part though was the comments section, where one keyboard warrior claimed that no rifle can pierce body armor, and even played the "I'll be the guinea pig and prove you wrong" card.

I'd hate to be him when someone shows up with a Barrett...


I have a buddy who's an FFL, he and I were just joking the other day that the next time LAPD has a gun buyback we'll go set up a card table in the parking lot right next to them with a sign that reads "we'll pay you more"
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:23 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:So yesterday on Facebook a news radio station that I follow posted a link to an article on a gun buyback program, complete with the obligatory picture of all the guns that people turned in. As you probably guessed, it was basically a pile of old hunting rifles.

The best part though was the comments section, where one keyboard warrior claimed that no rifle can pierce body armor, and even played the "I'll be the guinea pig and prove you wrong" card.

I'd hate to be him when someone shows up with a Barrett...

Get him to post his address :P

When someone replied with the expected "that statement is completely wrong", he pulled one of those lame "I said the rifle can't penetrate body armor, I didn't sat anything about the bullet" cop-outs.

What, does he think that we're going to spend $500 on a Remington 700 so that we can use it like a $30 Louisville Slugger?
Telconi wrote:I have a buddy who's an FFL, he and I were just joking the other day that the next time LAPD has a gun buyback we'll go set up a card table in the parking lot right next to them with a sign that reads "we'll pay you more"

I'd be inclined to stock up on cheap pawn shop guns just to turn them in for profit at a buyback...
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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:26 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Get him to post his address :P

When someone replied with the expected "that statement is completely wrong", he pulled one of those lame "I said the rifle can't penetrate body armor, I didn't sat anything about the bullet" cop-outs.

What, does he think that we're going to spend $500 on a Remington 700 so that we can use it like a $30 Louisville Slugger?
Telconi wrote:I have a buddy who's an FFL, he and I were just joking the other day that the next time LAPD has a gun buyback we'll go set up a card table in the parking lot right next to them with a sign that reads "we'll pay you more"

I'd be inclined to stock up on cheap pawn shop guns just to turn them in for profit at a buyback...


Them buybacks literally give nothing. It's something dumb like a fifty dollar Starbucks gift card or something like that.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:36 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:When someone replied with the expected "that statement is completely wrong", he pulled one of those lame "I said the rifle can't penetrate body armor, I didn't sat anything about the bullet" cop-outs.

What, does he think that we're going to spend $500 on a Remington 700 so that we can use it like a $30 Louisville Slugger?

I'd be inclined to stock up on cheap pawn shop guns just to turn them in for profit at a buyback...


Them buybacks literally give nothing. It's something dumb like a fifty dollar Starbucks gift card or something like that.

Cheap-ass Californians. This one was offering like $200 per gun...
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:47 pm

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Sovaal wrote:Just shot a 10mm Glock, pretty awesome gun.


10mils are really cool guns, a buddy of mine has a 1911 chambered in it and it's a great gun.

Maybe 10mm finally isn't a meme caliber anymore.

I was expecting more recoil out of it. Was suprised when it wasn't that bad. Then again, I don't think .45 APC out of a pocket pistol recoil is bad either.
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Postby Kash Island » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:37 pm

i have a 9mm a 10mm and just bought a 45 ACP caliber Glock 30s

the 10mm is badass(shooting it out of a Glock 20SF), it's my biggest handgun and if was CERTAIN that I was going to be heading into trouble I would bring it, 15 rounds of Critical Duty will defeat anything living creature on this planet.

recoil is actually very reasonable with the self-defense loads, my practice loads were actually snappier, which is a good thing because you train with the hotter stuff to help with recoil management, then your self-defense loads feel easier(though even the self-defense loading's are extremely lethal)
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:47 pm

Are Red Dots on handguns worth it? I was thinking of one given that I really like my Walther Q5 Match and have heard good things about the idea.

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Postby Kash Island » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:48 pm

The East Marches II wrote:Are Red Dots on handguns worth it? I was thinking of one given that I really like my Walther Q5 Match and have heard good things about the idea.


why do you want the red dot?

are you competition shooting with it?

hunting with it?
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:54 pm

Kash Island wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Are Red Dots on handguns worth it? I was thinking of one given that I really like my Walther Q5 Match and have heard good things about the idea.


why do you want the red dot?

are you competition shooting with it?

hunting with it?


#1 reason is because it looks cool

Other reason is it is supposed to be more effective. Its my HD gun.

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Postby Kash Island » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:56 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
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why do you want the red dot?

are you competition shooting with it?

hunting with it?


#1 reason is because it looks cool

Other reason is it is supposed to be more effective. Its my HD gun.


Hey, we all got our reasons and yeah they look cool

question: Do you think in a HD situation where your blood is pumping and your heart beating out of your chest that your going to be thinking about lining up a red dot on somebody whom may only be 10 feet at most away from you?
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:00 am

Kash Island wrote:
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#1 reason is because it looks cool

Other reason is it is supposed to be more effective. Its my HD gun.


Hey, we all got our reasons and yeah they look cool

question: Do you think in a HD situation where your blood is pumping and your heart beating out of your chest that your going to be thinking about lining up a red dot on somebody whom may only be 10 feet at most away from you?


No more than I would if i had to a front sight I needed to get between two other ones. Probably would be one less thing to worry about. Thanks for the help thinking it out anon.

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Postby Kash Island » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:02 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
Hey, we all got our reasons and yeah they look cool

question: Do you think in a HD situation where your blood is pumping and your heart beating out of your chest that your going to be thinking about lining up a red dot on somebody whom may only be 10 feet at most away from you?


No more than I would if i had to a front sight I needed to get between two other ones. Probably would be one less thing to worry about. Thanks for the help thinking it out anon.



even front sites, what a lot of people don't realize in a high stress enviroment is probably going to be point and click not " Well let me make sure my sites are lined up first"

instead of spending a ton of money on a red dot, a really nice strobe-light on the front of your pistol would be EXCELLENT for home defense. You can even get light/laser combos.
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Kash Island wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No more than I would if i had to a front sight I needed to get between two other ones. Probably would be one less thing to worry about. Thanks for the help thinking it out anon.



even front sites, what a lot of people don't realize in a high stress enviroment is probably going to be point and click not " Well let me make sure my sites are lined up first"

instead of spending a ton of money on a red dot, a really nice strobe-light on the front of your pistol would be EXCELLENT for home defense. You can even get light/laser combos.


I have a surefire walletrape already fam. I would add that you are correct in that a good light is important.
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:07 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Kash Island wrote:

even front sites, what a lot of people don't realize in a high stress enviroment is probably going to be point and click not " Well let me make sure my sites are lined up first"

instead of spending a ton of money on a red dot, a really nice strobe-light on the front of your pistol would be EXCELLENT for home defense. You can even get light/laser combos.


I have a surefire walletrape already fam.


well if you got a light system that's great!

lights will disorientate an individual in a dark environment, not to mention make it easier for you.

about the red dot, Ive never seen a need for them, they seem far more for looks because pistol work is usually very close range, so a red dot is meh in my opinion.

(Though I will say, if your using a handgun to HUNT, a red dot would be awsome, hell, I may equip my Glock 20SF with one in the future for hunting)
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