BREXIT Mega Thread (The Saga Begins?)

[Fartsniffage]

But we like the vast majority of those regulations. They're good regulations Brent.

Whomst is "we"?

The UK population as a whole, and Parliament.

[Proctopeo]

Whomst is "we"?

The UK population as a whole, and Parliament.

Wheremst is the source?

[Fartsniffage]

The UK population as a whole, and Parliament.

Wheremst is the source?

Really? You've honestly not heard of the Great Repeal Bill?

[Proctopeo]

Wheremst is the source?

Really? You've honestly not heard of the Great Repeal Bill?

I have, but what specifically about it?

[Fartsniffage]

Really? You've honestly not heard of the Great Repeal Bill?

I have, but what specifically about it?

It moves all of the European laws into British law.

[Proctopeo]

I have, but what specifically about it?

It moves all of the European laws into British law.

Okay.

[Salandriagado]

The UK population as a whole, and Parliament.

Wheremst is the source?

Mostly? The fact that we wrote most of them.

[Neu Leonstein]

It moves all of the European laws into British law.

Okay.

Here's some more info about it: https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2017/0 ... -thoughts/

And here's the tl;dr 1000-word version: https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2017/0 ... awal-bill/

[Neu Leonstein]

Little summary of the state of play in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... SApp_Other

The battle for a transition deal seems to have been won. This resolves one argument, only to ignite many others

And just to reiterate, here's another little battle, this time on how UK customs would work... you need a massive IT upgrade to make it work, but because no one knows what the post-Brexit customs arrangements will be, at the moment they're all scrambling to get a major project through without knowing what its capabilities will have to be. A bit of a nightmare scenario for anyone who works in a corporate environment and has had to deal with IT upgrade projects before!: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... it-customs

[...]

Capacity is the big challenge. CDS will need to provide capacity for an estimated 255 million declarations a year, around 200 million more than the current system provides. There are reports that CDS was originally designed to provide enough capacity for about half of the expected post-Brexit volume, but the Government appears confident that, if delivered, CDS will manage it.

[...]

Big ICT programmes take time. At the point the UK formally leaves the EU in March 2019, it will have had two years and nine months to design, build and implement new Brexit-related ICT above and beyond CDS. Based on HMRC’s experience with CDS, and most other big ICT programmes in government, that’s not long enough. In last year’s Government Major Project Portfolio (the biggest, scariest and most innovative programmes in the public sector), ICT programmes had an average duration of about five and a half years.

Big ICT programmes are also risky. CDS is not alone in its challenges, almost half of the ICT projects in the portfolio are rated either ‘Red’ or ‘Amber/Red’, meaning successful delivery is either unachievable or in doubt. Delays are common and often last years.

Delivering these sorts of technology projects, whether in government or the private sector, is difficult. Government should not rely on non-descript modern technology to solve its knottiest Brexit problems, particularly when HMRC’s hands are already full with CDS and Making Tax Digital.

[...]

Just as a reminder - if this customs stuff doesn't work, that means hundreds or thousands trucks with everything from food to flat-screen TVs stand around in Calais and Dover for days or weeks waiting for clearance.

[Calladan]

It moves all of the European laws into British law.

Okay.

Plus (and this is just what I understand - I have no source and I could be wrong) quite a lot of the laws are related to doing business with European countries. So when/if we do leave the EU, most British companies that want to still do business in Europe (which would be more than a few I would imagine) are going to have to adhere to most of the laws, otherwise no business for them.

[Hurdergaryp]

Okay.

Plus (and this is just what I understand - I have no source and I could be wrong) quite a lot of the laws are related to doing business with European countries. So when/if we do leave the EU, most British companies that want to still do business in Europe (which would be more than a few I would imagine) are going to have to adhere to most of the laws, otherwise no business for them.

That is only logical. Those federal laws are there and you cannot simply ignore them.

[Calladan]

Plus (and this is just what I understand - I have no source and I could be wrong) quite a lot of the laws are related to doing business with European countries. So when/if we do leave the EU, most British companies that want to still do business in Europe (which would be more than a few I would imagine) are going to have to adhere to most of the laws, otherwise no business for them.

That is only logical. Those federal laws are there and you cannot simply ignore them.

Except the EU is not a federal organisation. And Britain is leaving to get away from these laws. At least that is what the Leave group told its mindless zombie followers.

[Hurdergaryp]

That is only logical. Those federal laws are there and you cannot simply ignore them.

Except the EU is not a federal organisation. And Britain is leaving to get away from these laws. At least that is what the Leave group told its mindless zombie followers.

The EU is not federal in the same way as the United States, Russia, India or the People's Republic of China are federal, that much is true. Still there are certain rules and regulations which must be upheld by all member states, for example when it comes to consumer goods, food products, economic freedom and civil rights.

[HMS Queen Elizabeth]

The UK should just not have customs.

[Eredion]

The UK should just not have customs.

You are the master of simple solution.

[Souseiseki]

https://twitter.com/britainelects/statu ... 9016985603

another day, another poll showing brits support single market membership over controlling immigration

[Dooom35796821595]

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/889473189016985603

another day, another poll showing brits support single market membership over controlling immigration

Bias poll is bias, needs a referendum for certainty.

[Souseiseki]

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/889473189016985603

another day, another poll showing brits support single market membership over controlling immigration

Bias poll is bias, needs a referendum for certainty.

sorry bro that would be undemocratic

[Souseiseki]

https://www.ft.com/content/58fdabbc-704 ... bd07df1a3c

Australia has warned the UK against introducing a tougher visa regime after Brexit, and indicated this issue could have a big influence on talks between Canberra and London about a trade deal.

Australia’s stance highlights a central tension in UK prime minister Theresa May’s self-proclaimed push to create a “global Britain” after Brexit that involves an aggressive push for free trade deals while simultaneously limiting the number of people who can come to Britain.

The UK would like to secure trade deals with Australia and India as quickly as possible after Brexit, but these are the key countries demanding a more liberal British visa regime.

the UK is going to get absolutely skullfucked if it tries to clamp down on immigration

[HMS Queen Elizabeth]

You realise that the net flow of migrants with Australia is in the other direction? I think the vast majority of Brexit voters would welcome reduced visa restrictions, or even complete free movement with Australia.

[Souseiseki]

You realise that the net flow of migrants with Australia is in the other direction? I think the vast majority of Brexit voters would welcome reduced visa restrictions, or even complete free movement with Australia.

and india?

[Hurdergaryp]

https://www.ft.com/content/58fdabbc-7047-11e7-aca6-c6bd07df1a3c

Australia has warned the UK against introducing a tougher visa regime after Brexit, and indicated this issue could have a big influence on talks between Canberra and London about a trade deal.

Australia’s stance highlights a central tension in UK prime minister Theresa May’s self-proclaimed push to create a “global Britain” after Brexit that involves an aggressive push for free trade deals while simultaneously limiting the number of people who can come to Britain.

The UK would like to secure trade deals with Australia and India as quickly as possible after Brexit, but these are the key countries demanding a more liberal British visa regime.

the UK is going to get absolutely skullfucked if it tries to clamp down on immigration

Skullfucked, eh? Kinky, but I was under the impression the British were more into caning.

[Dooom35796821595]

https://www.ft.com/content/58fdabbc-7047-11e7-aca6-c6bd07df1a3c

Australia has warned the UK against introducing a tougher visa regime after Brexit, and indicated this issue could have a big influence on talks between Canberra and London about a trade deal.

Australia’s stance highlights a central tension in UK prime minister Theresa May’s self-proclaimed push to create a “global Britain” after Brexit that involves an aggressive push for free trade deals while simultaneously limiting the number of people who can come to Britain.

The UK would like to secure trade deals with Australia and India as quickly as possible after Brexit, but these are the key countries demanding a more liberal British visa regime.

the UK is going to get absolutely skullfucked if it tries to clamp down on immigration

Rather hypocritical of Australia, considering their system. And India don't want free movement, they're just posturing.

[Hurdergaryp]

https://www.ft.com/content/58fdabbc-7047-11e7-aca6-c6bd07df1a3c



the UK is going to get absolutely skullfucked if it tries to clamp down on immigration

Rather hypocritical of Australia, considering their system. And India don't want free movement, they're just posturing.

As Gandhi used to say: Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

[HMS Queen Elizabeth]

You realise that the net flow of migrants with Australia is in the other direction? I think the vast majority of Brexit voters would welcome reduced visa restrictions, or even complete free movement with Australia.

and india?

Clearly too many people, and too big an income disparity, to even consider anything close to free movement.