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Was the Reformation a good thing?

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2 - Neutral.
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3 - No.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon May 01, 2017 12:09 pm

Olerand wrote:Wait. I misread your ignore before the online currencies. I fully support ignoring them, I thought you did not. This isn't really an issue in French politics so I mistook Hamon's position too, and he would be the one to advocate for recognizing them if he even has a position on this.

Which is not good. We can't afford a UBI, and that was Hamon's leading proposition. It is stupid.

My support for a UBI/NIT is more in principle than in advocacy for immediate implementation. I fully support getting one's budget somewhat in order before tackling such undertakings.
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Postby Olerand » Mon May 01, 2017 12:13 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Almost all of the time I ever see "Anglo-Saxon" being used by French speakers is in a very "tsk-tsk" manner even if they are being descriptive.
If they are being descriptive in a positive manner, they usually refer to the individual country, Anglosphere, or "English-speaking".

Well... Somewhat true. It's not inherently a "tsk-tsk" adjective, but most people who are not Anglo would use it in a "tsk-tsk" manner. I'm sure if you find people who are far-left enough to agree with "Anglosphere liberals" on societal and cultural issues, or far-right enough to agree with "Anglosphere conservatives" on social and economic issues, they would use it in a positive manner. I am simply not far-left, nor far-right enough to do so.

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Olerand wrote:Wait. I misread your ignore before the online currencies. I fully support ignoring them, I thought you did not. This isn't really an issue in French politics so I mistook Hamon's position too, and he would be the one to advocate for recognizing them if he even has a position on this.

Which is not good. We can't afford a UBI, and that was Hamon's leading proposition. It is stupid.

My support for a UBI/NIT is more in principle than in advocacy for immediate implementation. I fully support getting one's budget somewhat in order before tackling such undertakings.

Which was not Hamon's position. That was his leading proposal for this election, his main argument to make him president. We cannot afford this, and it was stupid of him to propose it.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon May 01, 2017 12:13 pm

A lot of the old time national political families in the USA are not really active anymore, if they even still exist. The most active ones are probably the Kennedy's and the Bush family both of whom are clearly pasty their prime.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon May 01, 2017 12:14 pm

Napkiraly wrote:A lot of the old time national political families in the USA are not really active anymore, if they even still exist. The most active ones are probably the Kennedy's and the Bush family both of whom are clearly pasty their prime.

The Roosevelt family is still active in politics.
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Postby Olerand » Mon May 01, 2017 12:16 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?

Preferably the Roosevelts. Are the other ones even still around?
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon May 01, 2017 12:18 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:A lot of the old time national political families in the USA are not really active anymore, if they even still exist. The most active ones are probably the Kennedy's and the Bush family both of whom are clearly pasty their prime.

The Roosevelt family is still active in politics.

The only one I can think of that might have any significant influence is James Roosevelt III.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon May 01, 2017 12:58 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?

Windsor. Trying to turn an elected magistrate into a monarch is like putting lipstick on a pig.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon May 01, 2017 1:02 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:Windsor. Trying to turn an elected magistrate into a monarch is like putting lipstick on a pig.

I agree entirely. No amount of nicety can make something as ugly as hereditary rule look good. :p
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Wed May 03, 2017 4:09 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:A lot of the old time national political families in the USA are not really active anymore, if they even still exist. The most active ones are probably the Kennedy's and the Bush family both of whom are clearly pasty their prime.

The Roosevelt family is still active in politics.


I find that surprising, I'd thought the Roosevelt's would have died off.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed May 03, 2017 4:43 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?

Windsor. Trying to turn an elected magistrate into a monarch is like putting lipstick on a pig.


Queen Palin it is.
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Postby Benuty » Wed May 03, 2017 5:59 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?

None at least while I'm alive

This of course might come true if people are purges en masse one night.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Wed May 03, 2017 10:14 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?


Rockefeller.
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Postby Luminesa » Wed May 03, 2017 11:13 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Windsor. Trying to turn an elected magistrate into a monarch is like putting lipstick on a pig.


Queen Palin it is.

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed May 03, 2017 11:17 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Almost all of the time I ever see "Anglo-Saxon" being used by French speakers is in a very "tsk-tsk" manner even if they are being descriptive.
If they are being descriptive in a positive manner, they usually refer to the individual country, Anglosphere, or "English-speaking".


The French here can correct me if I'm wrong, but, yes, Anglo Saxon tends to be a bit of an insult.

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Postby Luminesa » Wed May 03, 2017 11:20 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Almost all of the time I ever see "Anglo-Saxon" being used by French speakers is in a very "tsk-tsk" manner even if they are being descriptive.
If they are being descriptive in a positive manner, they usually refer to the individual country, Anglosphere, or "English-speaking".


The French here can correct me if I'm wrong, but, yes, Anglo Saxon tends to be a bit of an insult.

Not to The Eternal Anglo. XD
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed May 03, 2017 11:21 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
The French here can correct me if I'm wrong, but, yes, Anglo Saxon tends to be a bit of an insult.

Not to The Eternal Anglo. XD


*smokes cigarette and mumbles something about fucking Anglos.*

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Postby The Sauganash Union » Thu May 04, 2017 2:01 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Almost all of the time I ever see "Anglo-Saxon" being used by French speakers is in a very "tsk-tsk" manner even if they are being descriptive.
If they are being descriptive in a positive manner, they usually refer to the individual country, Anglosphere, or "English-speaking".


The French here can correct me if I'm wrong, but, yes, Anglo Saxon tends to be a bit of an insult.


"Sauganash" literally means "Anglo-Saxon" in a Native American language.
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Postby Olerand » Thu May 04, 2017 8:37 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Almost all of the time I ever see "Anglo-Saxon" being used by French speakers is in a very "tsk-tsk" manner even if they are being descriptive.
If they are being descriptive in a positive manner, they usually refer to the individual country, Anglosphere, or "English-speaking".


The French here can correct me if I'm wrong, but, yes, Anglo Saxon tends to be a bit of an insult.

It's a descriptive term. For most people, it's not a good description, no. But it's not inherently pejorative.

If someone is far-left enough on societal and cultural issues, they would use the term favorably, because the "left" in the Anglo-Saxon world is too. If someone is far-right enough on social and economic issues, they would use it favorably too, because the right in the Anglo-Saxon world is too. A lot of youth influenced by America and American culture are far-left enough to use it favorably, and simultaneously many who are influenced by the selfishness of right-wing Anglo-Saxon economics use it favorably too.

I, and the majority of the French on these forums who don't use it favorably, am neither far-left nor far-right enough to use it in a positive light. But it's not inherently bad, it's subjective.
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Postby Conscentia » Thu May 04, 2017 9:18 am

The Sauganash Union wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:The French here can correct me if I'm wrong, but, yes, Anglo Saxon tends to be a bit of an insult.

"Sauganash" literally means "Anglo-Saxon" in a Native American language.

I haven't been able to find any indication of that. The word itself certainly doesn't seem to indicate so. According to Wikipedia it means "English-speaker", and Wiktionary says it derives from the French word for "English" ("Anglais").
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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu May 04, 2017 10:06 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?


Me.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 04, 2017 10:06 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?


Me.

Monarchs need to be able to reproduce, sorry.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu May 04, 2017 10:12 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?


Me :P
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Postby Danceria » Thu May 04, 2017 10:14 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?


Me.

Salus Maior wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?


Me :P

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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu May 04, 2017 10:16 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the United States were to have a Constitutional Convention and select a monarch, what dynasty should be made the reigning dynasty? Washingtons? Jeffersons? Roosevelts?


Clearly I should rule.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu May 04, 2017 10:29 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Olerand wrote:Nothing is wrong with any of those things, except for the online currencies part.

Bitcoin is legendarily dumb, like some gold bugs got upset about fiat currency and decided to make a 'point' with their own currency which completely misses the point of fiat which was taken seriously and enthusiastically by economically illiterate online libertarians.

At least bitcoin has actual value.
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