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Whilst I am completely aware that these aren't the most credible sources in the world, I still found the topic interesting. Do people of different races have different dietry requirements? If you think about logically, it only makes sense. Humans have travelled across the with completely differents sets of plants and animals. Someone who lived in the cold and harsh Arctic would have to adapt to survive on a meat-based diet, as opposed to someone in Europe, who had access to more fruit, people from some parts of Asia had access to more spices, and needed to eat them to preserve the food from spoiling, as well as rice and noodle based diet.

I think that this would be something interesting to study/discuss. What do you think NSG?
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:02 am

There is no biological basis for race, so it's not really useful to think about different races having different dietary requirements.
Conscentia wrote:"Races" as biologically distinct sub-species in the human species do not exist. That's not to say there isn't significant variation in the human species, or that there aren't geographical trends. However, "race" is at best a naive oversimplification. There are no races, only clines. Clines do not allow for a delineation of subspecies. The alleles responsible for "racial" traits are distributed independently of each other, and they are distributed as gradients not allowing for a clear demarcation between populations.


That said, certain phenotypes do lead to different dietary requirements. eg. Those with darker skin will require more vitamin D in their diets if they live in less sunny parts of the world.
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In fact they do, due to prevalence of particular blood types in different races.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:37 am

Imperium Sidhicum wrote:In fact they do, due to prevalence of particular blood types in different races.

Blood types don't mean anything when it comes to diets
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Australian Republic wrote:https://www.quora.com/Are-different-races-suited-to-different-diets-by-genetics-or-by-preference

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Whilst I am completely aware that these aren't the most credible sources in the world, I still found the topic interesting. Do people of different races have different dietry requirements? If you think about logically, it only makes sense. Humans have travelled across the with completely differents sets of plants and animals. Someone who lived in the cold and harsh Arctic would have to adapt to survive on a meat-based diet, as opposed to someone in Europe, who had access to more fruit, people from some parts of Asia had access to more spices, and needed to eat them to preserve the food from spoiling, as well as rice and noodle based diet.

I think that this would be something interesting to study/discuss. What do you think NSG?

I know Asians do not digest lactose, so they should avoid dairy, but no clue about other races.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:39 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:https://www.quora.com/Are-different-races-suited-to-different-diets-by-genetics-or-by-preference/

Whilst I am completely aware that these aren't the most credible sources in the world, I still found the topic interesting. Do people of different races have different dietry requirements? If you think about logically, it only makes sense. Humans have travelled across the with completely differents sets of plants and animals. Someone who lived in the cold and harsh Arctic would have to adapt to survive on a meat-based diet, as opposed to someone in Europe, who had access to more fruit, people from some parts of Asia had access to more spices, and needed to eat them to preserve the food from spoiling, as well as rice and noodle based diet.

I think that this would be something interesting to study/discuss. What do you think NSG?

I know Asians do not digest lactose, so they should avoid dairy, but no clue about other races.

No that's not true at all
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Thermodolia wrote:Also stormfront is not allowed to be linked to.

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Postby Petrolheadia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:42 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:I know Asians do not digest lactose, so they should avoid dairy, but no clue about other races.

No that's not true at all

Proof?

Because that was said in an article from the Polish Polityka magazine (left-leaning a bit), concerning the futility of the Chinese government sponsoring free milk for kids.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:47 am

Dietary requirements are already arbitrary and have very little useful correlation to what the body needs or wants. Racial differences are nonexistent beside the already stated fact about people with darker skin needing more vitamin D.
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Petrolheadia wrote:I know Asians do not digest lactose, so they should avoid dairy, but no clue about other races.

No that's not true at all

He is right for the wrong reason actually. Europeans during the classical period had greater access to Cows as sources of a drink so lactose intolerance levels feel in European central Asian country's while most of the world can't consume milk after about the age of 5. Something like 90% of Europeans and Central Asians can drink milk while for the rest of the world the rate is closer to only 10% to 25%.
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Petrolheadia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No that's not true at all

Proof?

Because that was said in an article from the Polish Polityka magazine (left-leaning a bit), concerning the futility of the Chinese government sponsoring free milk for kids.

Your the one who made the original statement not me. You should show your proof. Because I can't find any medical information that says Asians can't drink milk. Almost all of the information that says the can't comes from anti-dairy organizations
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Postby Seangoli » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:49 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:https://www.quora.com/Are-different-races-suited-to-different-diets-by-genetics-or-by-preference

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Whilst I am completely aware that these aren't the most credible sources in the world, I still found the topic interesting. Do people of different races have different dietry requirements? If you think about logically, it only makes sense. Humans have travelled across the with completely differents sets of plants and animals. Someone who lived in the cold and harsh Arctic would have to adapt to survive on a meat-based diet, as opposed to someone in Europe, who had access to more fruit, people from some parts of Asia had access to more spices, and needed to eat them to preserve the food from spoiling, as well as rice and noodle based diet.

I think that this would be something interesting to study/discuss. What do you think NSG?

I know Asians do not digest lactose, so they should avoid dairy, but no clue about other races.


That is actually not true, or at least is a gross misunderstanding of the issue. Lactose intolerance is more prevalent among Asian populations, however it is by no means ubiquitous among Asian. There are plenty Asian who are not lactose intolerant at all.

The reason this is the case is that Lactose intolerance isn't really due to genetic components, but instead is behavioral. Your body essentially stops producing the enzymes to digest lactose when you stop ingesting lactose. Most African, Middle Eastern, and European populations maintain a diet with lactose in it well into adulthood, which means their body continues to produce the enzyme that can digest lactose for the most part. However, when you stop for long periods of time your body stops producing the enzyme to digest lactose. The reason lactose intolerance is so prevalent among Asian population is rather simple: They typically don't have dairy in their diet. That said, those that do usually do not develop lactose intolerance (I say usually, because even people who intake dairy regularly can develop it randomly).

If it were truly a genetic component and Asians couldn't digest lactose, breastfeeding would be almost impossible among Asian people.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:49 am

Heloin wrote:Dietary requirements are already arbitrary and have very little useful correlation to what the body needs or wants. Racial differences are nonexistent beside the already stated fact about people with darker skin needing more vitamin D.
Thermodolia wrote:No that's not true at all

He is right for the wrong reason. Europeans during the classical period had greater access to Cows as sources of a drink so lactose intolerance levels feel in European central Asian country's while most of the world can't consume milk after about the age of 5. Something like 90% of Europeans and Central Asians can drink milk while for the rest of the world the rate is closer to only 10% to 25%.

Do you have a medical paper to back that up?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:53 am

I imagine that humans mostly need the same nutrients to survive regardless of race.


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Heloin wrote:Dietary requirements are already arbitrary and have very little useful correlation to what the body needs or wants...

Surely dietary requirements are, by definition, what the body needs, no?
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Postby Morilia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:53 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:https://www.quora.com/Are-different-races-suited-to-different-diets-by-genetics-or-by-preference

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Whilst I am completely aware that these aren't the most credible sources in the world, I still found the topic interesting. Do people of different races have different dietry requirements? If you think about logically, it only makes sense. Humans have travelled across the with completely differents sets of plants and animals. Someone who lived in the cold and harsh Arctic would have to adapt to survive on a meat-based diet, as opposed to someone in Europe, who had access to more fruit, people from some parts of Asia had access to more spices, and needed to eat them to preserve the food from spoiling, as well as rice and noodle based diet.

I think that this would be something interesting to study/discuss. What do you think NSG?

I know Asians do not digest lactose, so they should avoid dairy, but no clue about other races.


I know that in China at least, the vast majority of Han Chinese people are lactose intolerant (Although a minority are not), I was told it was a genetic issue but only for Han Chinese, so other races in China such as Mongolians or Uighurs are not lactose intolerant, and dairy forms a larger part of their diet
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Thermodolia wrote:
Heloin wrote:Dietary requirements are already arbitrary and have very little useful correlation to what the body needs or wants. Racial differences are nonexistent beside the already stated fact about people with darker skin needing more vitamin D.

He is right for the wrong reason. Europeans during the classical period had greater access to Cows as sources of a drink so lactose intolerance levels feel in European central Asian country's while most of the world can't consume milk after about the age of 5. Something like 90% of Europeans and Central Asians can drink milk while for the rest of the world the rate is closer to only 10% to 25%.

Do you have a medical paper to back that up?

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Ifreann wrote:I imagine that humans mostly need the same nutrients to survive regardless of race.


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Postby Conscentia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:06 am

Seangoli wrote:[...]If it were truly a genetic component and Asians couldn't digest lactose, breastfeeding would be almost impossible among Asian people.

No. It is genetic. The allele responsible for lactose intolerance is responsible for lactase nonpersistence. Lactose intolerant adults could still have been breastfed as children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

Also, lactase nonpersistence isn't limited to Asian populations. Most humans lack the allele for lactase persistence. It's not a racial trait.
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Postby Seangoli » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:07 am

Conscentia wrote:
Seangoli wrote:[...]If it were truly a genetic component and Asians couldn't digest lactose, breastfeeding would be almost impossible among Asian people.

No. It is genetic. The allele responsible for lactose intolerance is responsible for lactase nonpersistence. Lactose intolerant adults could still have been breastfed as children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence


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Petrolheadia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No that's not true at all

Proof?

Because that was said in an article from the Polish Polityka magazine (left-leaning a bit), concerning the futility of the Chinese government sponsoring free milk for kids.


I'm as East Asian as you can get, and I drink full cream milk by the bucketload.

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Postby Alvecia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:13 am

Sounds to me like the varying dietary requirements are less race based and more geographical, so to speak.
If, for example, a minority white population was to somehow develop alongside the East Asian populations with the same access to resources, they would have the same dietary differences.

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Alvecia wrote:Sounds to me like the varying dietary requirements are less race based and more geographical, so to speak.
If, for example, a minority white population was to somehow develop alongside the East Asian populations with the same access to resources, they would have the same dietary differences.


Hindu southern India also has a much higher rate of intolerance than the Muslim north.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:26 am

It's a trend but not a rule. In general White persons have higher lactose tolerance than Asians for example, and this is one reason we apparently smell of milk from consuming so much of it.
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