security guard beats student in wheelchair (trigger warning)

[Blazedtown]

Video at link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/3 ... mg00000067

A special needs student in a wheelchair was allegedly beaten by a school security guard in California -- and much of the incident was caught on video.

"He slapped me. He hit me so hard, it threw me out of my chair. I hit the floor with my chin first. I had a scar right here," Oakland High School student Francisco Martinez told KTVU, pointing to his chin.

The security guard was identified as 23-year-old Marchell Mitchell.

The school said Mitchell, who was a substitute school resource officer, was urging students to get to class on time on May 19. Martinez, 17, who has cerebral palsy and is in a wheelchair, "either refused to comply or was slow to do so," Principal Matin Abdel-Qawi wrote in a letter to parents cited by the San Francisco Chronicle.

Mitchell then began to push Martinez's wheelchair. When Martinez objected and tried to slap the guard's hands away, Mitchell allegedly handcuffed the teen to the chair.

Martinez admits he then spit on the guard.

"I was handcuffed, so I didn't have no way to defend myself but my mouth," Martinez told KTVU.

That's when the alleged assault on the student began, and Martinez says there's more to it than what's seen on the video. Along with being attacked in the hallway, Martinez said he was beaten and thrown to the ground in an elevator.

He's been battling pain since the incident.

Mitchell was fired, arrested by Oakland police and charged with corporal injury to a child, a felony.

"I'm shocked and deeply hurt by this behavior and apologize on behalf of the staff at Oakland High," Abdel-Qawi wrote. "This incident is not reflective of the kind of culture we cherish at our school or how we treat one another."

Seriously? What is going on in our schools. At least the guy was arrested, but it says a lot in our society that the felt justified to do what he did.

This isn't tumblur, we don't do "trigger warnings". Take that SJW bullshit elsewhere.

But anyway, on topic, that security guard should get at least 10 years of hard time.

[Vicious Debaters]

Mighty damn tired though of one asshole's actions being used as a throwaway to bash the entire system, though.

Very true.

I only take accounts like this as examples of a systemic problem when it happens again and again. When it just happens once, I feel like it's a problem with one individual being an asshole.

[Cilestis]

Video at link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/3 ... mg00000067



Seriously? What is going on in our schools. At least the guy was arrested, but it says a lot in our society that the felt justified to do what he did.

This isn't tumblur, we don't do "trigger warnings". Take that SJW bullshit elsewhere.

But anyway, on topic, that security guard should get at least 10 years of hard time.

Tumblr SJW are invading everywhere, it was only a a matter of time. Why I left that god forsaken website.

[The UK in Exile]

Video at link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/3 ... mg00000067



Seriously? What is going on in our schools. At least the guy was arrested, but it says a lot in our society that the felt justified to do what he did.

This isn't tumblur, we don't do "trigger warnings". Take that SJW bullshit elsewhere.

But anyway, on topic, that security guard should get at least 10 years of hard time.

Especially since the thread title gives more than adequate information for anyone who might find this disturbing to make up their own mind.

[Wisconsin9]

Security guard tried to help him. What's wrong with pushing weelchair with student to a class? Isn't it why students are in school anyways?

You generally ask people if they want help. If a security guard at my school decides I'm not getting to class quickly enough and decides to pick me up and carry me there, without receiving my consent first, then you bet your ass I'm going to fight back.

And, even ignoring that, there's the fact that HE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THE KID WHILE HE WAS HANDCUFFED INTO A WHEELCHAIR. Fuck that asshole.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Security guard tried to help him. What's wrong with pushing weelchair with student to a class? Isn't it why students are in school anyways?

You generally ask people if they want help. If a security guard at my school decides I'm not getting to class quickly enough and decides to pick me up and carry me there, without receiving my consent first, then you bet your ass I'm going to fight back.

And, even ignoring that, there's the fact that HE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THE KID WHILE HE WAS HANDCUFFED INTO A WHEELCHAIR. Fuck that asshole.

While this kid didn't deserve it, many more honestly are long overdue for a good and through beating by an adult. Preferably by the parents of said children.

[Cilestis]

You generally ask people if they want help. If a security guard at my school decides I'm not getting to class quickly enough and decides to pick me up and carry me there, without receiving my consent first, then you bet your ass I'm going to fight back.

And, even ignoring that, there's the fact that HE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THE KID WHILE HE WAS HANDCUFFED INTO A WHEELCHAIR. Fuck that asshole.

While this kid didn't deserve it, many more honestly are long overdue for a good and through beating by an adult. Preferably by the parents of said children.

WHAT!? Parents should never beat their children, what a barbaric thing to say.

[Paddy O Fernature]

While this kid didn't deserve it, many more honestly are long overdue for a good and through beating by an adult. Preferably by the parents of said children.

WHAT!? Parents should never beat their children, what a barbaric thing to say.

Yes, yes they should. Preferably using their hand and applied repeatedly to the offenders backside.

[The Star Corporation]

Seriously, what's going on with the 'safety officer' who clearly doesn't have a fucking clue of what his job is. They are there to make sure no one gets hurt. They are not there to lay hands on the kids except to prevent them for getting hurt (that is, breaking up a fight, etc.)

Safety officers, at least in NYC, are a division of the police force, NOT of the schools.

1) He had no business touching Martinez' wheelchair. For fuck's sake, that's like grabbing and pushing a student's body. You do NOT lay hands on someone without permission.

2) He had no business handcuffing the boy for making it clear he did not want to be touched.

3) Hitting the boy had the proper consequence: arrested, charged with a felony, fired.

Mighty damn tired though of one asshole's actions being used as a throwaway to bash the entire system, though.

Still, it might make people think of how the school's are handled... such as kicking kids out for playing "save the world" and throwing an invisible grenade or handcuffing them and trying to arrest their parents for bringing a Hello Kitty bubble gun to school.

:/

Or even the disorganization, most of the time teachers don't get the information they need UNTIL they ask for it, they should have the information they need at ALL times [example; all of my teachers have different addresses, ONLY one of them has the current address BUT they do not have the current phone number >.< Kind of dumb]

[Cilestis]

WHAT!? Parents should never beat their children, what a barbaric thing to say.

Yes, yes they should. Preferably using their hand and applied repeatedly to the offenders backside.

You realize that pretty much every psychiatrist is against it and want in completely banned right? The negative effects of spanking including possible psychological trauma far outweigh any "positives." Spanking is the lazy parents way out of properly disciplining their child and just fosters an atmosphere of violence.

[Archegnum]

Corporal punishment dealt out by a parent seems to work, so long as it doesn't develop into abuse or grievous bodily harm. Not teachers though, that sounds too much like public humiliation (I'm sure you can imagine...). Admittedly, the dividing line is thin.

In Britain (where I live) an insane schoolboy attacked and killed their Spanish teacher not long ago. It was on national news. Slightly worse than the story discussed here.

But that teacher had no business to touch or restrain a schoolchild, no matter if they were being slow or disobedient. You send them to the Headteacher (I guess in the USA you'd call them a Principal) or something, not beat them...

[Paddy O Fernature]

Yes, yes they should. Preferably using their hand and applied repeatedly to the offenders backside.

You realize that pretty much every psychiatrist is against it and want in completely banned right? The negative effects of spanking including possible psychological trauma far outweigh any "positives." Spanking is the lazy parents way out of properly disciplining their child and just fosters an atmosphere of violence.

Yes, cause clearly doping our kids into zombies is a much safer, and humane way to deal with the problem.

[Cilestis]

You realize that pretty much every psychiatrist is against it and want in completely banned right? The negative effects of spanking including possible psychological trauma far outweigh any "positives." Spanking is the lazy parents way out of properly disciplining their child and just fosters an atmosphere of violence.

Yes, cause clearly doping our kids into zombies is a much safer, and humane way to deal with the problem.

Where did I advocate for that, please do not put words in my mouth.

[Gunrado]

This is horrible.

Also, "trigger warnings" are a joke and I pray this doesn't become a thing on NS. Toughen up, it's words.

[Llamalandia]

I'm a little confused here though if the kid was apparently late, or about to be late to class why did he object to the guard pushing his wheelchair for him? I mean, I get the whole diffently abled doesn't want help from nobody thing, which I can applaud to a degree. But when you're late and someone is helping you, you can't really object to that. I mean, unless he had no class to be in at that time it shouldn't have been an issue.

Of course all that said, yeah, the guard reacted way disproportionately. Like this isn't even close to acceptable behaviour. The hand cuffing arguable qualifies as an illegal arrest or rest or detainment, and at the point the kid had the right to resist with whatever means he could. Of course I'd not normally condone spitting on someone, but this guy clearly deserved. But unfortunately he again over reacted and beat the kid.

Barring some facts not yet in evidence it does seem the guard is mostly at fault here. sure the kid basically started it, by essentially refusing help getting to class, but that doesn't come close to justifying this guy's actions.

[Shaggai]

This is horrible.

Also, "trigger warnings" are a joke and I pray this doesn't become a thing on NS. Toughen up, it's words.

Ever notice how the people who say this are never the actual people with PTSD?

[MERIZoC]

I'm a little confused here though if the kid was apparently late, or about to be late to class why did he object to the guard pushing his wheelchair for him? I mean, I get the whole diffently abled doesn't want help from nobody thing, which I can applaud to a degree. But when you're late and someone is helping you, you can't really object to that. I mean, unless he had no class to be in at that time it shouldn't have been an issue.

Of course all that said, yeah, the guard reacted way disproportionately. Like this isn't even close to acceptable behaviour. The hand cuffing arguable qualifies as an illegal arrest or rest or detainment, and at the point the kid had the right to resist with whatever means he could. Of course I'd not normally condone spitting on someone, but this guy clearly deserved. But unfortunately he again over reacted and beat the kid.

Barring some facts not yet in evidence it does seem the guard is mostly at fault here. sure the kid basically started it, by essentially refusing help getting to class, but that doesn't come close to justifying this guy's actions.

The kid started it? The guard had absolutely no right to touch the kid's wheelchair in the first place. The kid was completely justified in his actions, and committed no wrongdoing.

[Llamalandia]

This is horrible.

Also, "trigger warnings" are a joke and I pray this doesn't become a thing on NS. Toughen up, it's words.

Ever notice how the people who say this are never the actual people with PTSD?

Ok, here's the thing, people with PTSD and more specifically PTSD likely to be triggered by this are an unbelieveably small minority of the population. We don't base things on the needs of what is no offense, a nearly trivial minority. Plus really has anyone on NS ever claimed to have actually been triggered by something that was a surprise to them? (ie could be easily discerned by the reading the title)

[Neutraligon]

I'm a little confused here though if the kid was apparently late, or about to be late to class why did he object to the guard pushing his wheelchair for him? I mean, I get the whole diffently abled doesn't want help from nobody thing, which I can applaud to a degree. But when you're late and someone is helping you, you can't really object to that. I mean, unless he had no class to be in at that time it shouldn't have been an issue.

Of course all that said, yeah, the guard reacted way disproportionately. Like this isn't even close to acceptable behaviour. The hand cuffing arguable qualifies as an illegal arrest or rest or detainment, and at the point the kid had the right to resist with whatever means he could. Of course I'd not normally condone spitting on someone, but this guy clearly deserved. But unfortunately he again over reacted and beat the kid.

Barring some facts not yet in evidence it does seem the guard is mostly at fault here. sure the kid basically started it, by essentially refusing help getting to class, but that doesn't come close to justifying this guy's actions.

Simple, because he did not ask for help, rather "help" was forced on him. There is a big difference.

[Llamalandia]

I'm a little confused here though if the kid was apparently late, or about to be late to class why did he object to the guard pushing his wheelchair for him? I mean, I get the whole diffently abled doesn't want help from nobody thing, which I can applaud to a degree. But when you're late and someone is helping you, you can't really object to that. I mean, unless he had no class to be in at that time it shouldn't have been an issue.

Of course all that said, yeah, the guard reacted way disproportionately. Like this isn't even close to acceptable behaviour. The hand cuffing arguable qualifies as an illegal arrest or rest or detainment, and at the point the kid had the right to resist with whatever means he could. Of course I'd not normally condone spitting on someone, but this guy clearly deserved. But unfortunately he again over reacted and beat the kid.

Barring some facts not yet in evidence it does seem the guard is mostly at fault here. sure the kid basically started it, by essentially refusing help getting to class, but that doesn't come close to justifying this guy's actions.

The kid started it? The guard had absolutely no right to touch the kid's wheelchair in the first place. The kid was completely justified in his actions, and committed no wrongdoing.

Look, I don't think the guy was initially trying to be a d-bag, I think he was just trying to do the right thing and make sure that a student who was obviously disabled and whom he at least thought was incapable of making it to class on time got where he needed to go. I mean, like I said, he shouldve just either back off or ignored the kid slapping at him and gotten him to class, then none of this would have been an issue.

[Llamalandia]

I'm a little confused here though if the kid was apparently late, or about to be late to class why did he object to the guard pushing his wheelchair for him? I mean, I get the whole diffently abled doesn't want help from nobody thing, which I can applaud to a degree. But when you're late and someone is helping you, you can't really object to that. I mean, unless he had no class to be in at that time it shouldn't have been an issue.

Of course all that said, yeah, the guard reacted way disproportionately. Like this isn't even close to acceptable behaviour. The hand cuffing arguable qualifies as an illegal arrest or rest or detainment, and at the point the kid had the right to resist with whatever means he could. Of course I'd not normally condone spitting on someone, but this guy clearly deserved. But unfortunately he again over reacted and beat the kid.

Barring some facts not yet in evidence it does seem the guard is mostly at fault here. sure the kid basically started it, by essentially refusing help getting to class, but that doesn't come close to justifying this guy's actions.

Simple, because he did not ask for help, rather "help" was forced on him. There is a big difference.

Ok, well, you don't get to decide to break the rules. There is an obvious rule against being tardy to class. Hence what he did was no worse than dragging a truant student to school. Well at least up till he started handcuffing and then beating the kid those too things were absolutely way out of line. It's fine to force the kid into his classroom, it's not ok to handcuff when doing so is clearly unnecessary, and the beating is a total no-go.

[The UK in Exile]

This is horrible.

Also, "trigger warnings" are a joke and I pray this doesn't become a thing on NS. Toughen up, it's words.

Ever notice how the people who say this are never the actual people with PTSD?

Imagine people with PTSD would find "security guard beats student in wheelchair (WARNING: if you find a security guard beating a student in wheelchair distressing, you may find this thread to be distressing, as it contains discussion of a security guard beating a student in wheelchair)" slightly patronizing. A trigger warning on say - Titus Andronicus is one thing, this thread isn't exactly screaming out for one.

[Neutraligon]

Simple, because he did not ask for help, rather "help" was forced on him. There is a big difference.

Ok, well, you don't get to decide to break the rules. There is an obvious rule against being tardy to class. Hence what he did was no worse than dragging a truant student to school. Well at least up till he started handcuffing and then beating the kid those too things were absolutely way out of line. It's fine to force the kid into his classroom, it's not ok to handcuff when doing so is clearly unnecessary, and the beating is a total no-go.

A non handicapped student who is late for class is not grabbed and forced to head to the classroom Neither should a handicapped student have the same thing happen to his wheelchair.

[Llamalandia]

Ok, well, you don't get to decide to break the rules. There is an obvious rule against being tardy to class. Hence what he did was no worse than dragging a truant student to school. Well at least up till he started handcuffing and then beating the kid those too things were absolutely way out of line. It's fine to force the kid into his classroom, it's not ok to handcuff when doing so is clearly unnecessary, and the beating is a total no-go.

A non handicapped student who is late for class is not grabbed and forced to head to the classroom Neither should a handicapped student have the same thing happen to his wheelchair.

They can be. I would certainly have absolutely no problem with that to be sure. Again, though the kid was gonna be late we can either see wheeling him to class as a "helping hand" or a disciplinary action either way, there was nothing wrong with that part of it. What did become a problem was the guard reactions from that point on, they were totally inappropriate.

[Neutraligon]

A non handicapped student who is late for class is not grabbed and forced to head to the classroom Neither should a handicapped student have the same thing happen to his wheelchair.

They can be. I would certainly have absolutely no problem with that to be sure. Again, though the kid was gonna be late we can either see wheeling him to class as a "helping hand" or a disciplinary action either way, there was nothing wrong with that part of it. What did become a problem was the guard reactions from that point on, they were totally inappropriate.

No they cannot. And again forcing your help on someone who has not asked, and who clearly does not want it is a form of harassment.