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Who's right in this whole debacle

The BLM "Bureau of Land Manegment" i.e. the government
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The Nevada Rancher
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Half & Half
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Neither
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:59 am

Juggalo world wrote:I mean in all honesty he has a point and I don't think this would affect his case in anyway it's his personal view which shouldn't become a factor in something unrelated to racism.

What point does he have, exactly?

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Postby Silent Majority » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:59 am

-The West Coast- wrote:Everybody is entitled to their opinions.


That doesn't mean his opinions aren't fucking stupid
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Postby Agritum » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:02 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:I remember an article from a week or two ago in which Infowars and Jones got pointed out as the hypocrites they are, because they were against the militias that came out to support Bundy - despite these sorts of militias practising what they preach.

But the article was from pronounced right-bashers, Salon.
I don't trust their impartiality.

I'd make a quick trawl of Infowars to verify it, but then it would still be too much for my mental health.

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:10 am

Not surprised, and I am shocked at the further racism by this unintelligent jackass.

Didn't Glenn say something bad or at least disagree with Bundy and his supporters or something? I hope he does some sort of "I told you so" in fighting in the right is fun.
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Postby Juggalo world » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:23 am

Destiny Island wrote:
Juggalo world wrote:I mean in all honesty he has a point and I don't think this would affect his case in anyway it's his personal view which shouldn't become a factor in something unrelated to racism.

Gamzee is that you?

No god damn it fuck that homestuck shit.
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Postby Aequalitia » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:27 am

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Not surprised, and I am shocked at the further racism by this unintelligent jackass.

Didn't Glenn say something bad or at least disagree with Bundy and his supporters or something? I hope he does some sort of "I told you so" in fighting in the right is fun.

Serious, it sounds so very logical to saying people would be so better off if their got no freedoms but be seen like cows....

At least that is what Bundy thinks
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:45 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Bundy is fucking-over a cause near and dear to my heart (BLM mismanagement and excessive federal lands in Western states) with his ongoing dickheadery.

Fuck that guy. Seriously. I had a modicum of support for the guy out of sympathy for the principle behind his argument, but he's not doing it out of a principle he's just a fucking welfare-rancher with ass-backwards views on society and delusions of grandeur.

Fuck him. Fuck his Infowars buddies. I still think the BLM handled the situation poorly, I still think the BLM needs to have its authority and land-responsibility seriously clipped, and I still think the militarization of agencies like the BLM and even local/state PDs are a major problem, but Bundy quite clearly isn't concerned with any of that he's a selfish, aging prick.


That's a lot of insults for a guy that you've never met and know nothing about.

I never met Hitler but I think he is a cunt

:Shrugs:

I know plenty of him though.

See....we live in a era where you don't really need to know a person to know if they are nice or not, we lived in that age for quite a while now relevantly.
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The Most Important Issue Result - "Robosexual marriages are increasingly common."

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Postby Murkwood » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:49 am

This is what right-wingers like me get when we try to make heroes out of anti-government nuts.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:51 am

Murkwood wrote:This is what right-wingers like me get when we try to make heroes out of anti-government nuts.

No shit, unpatriotic dicks shouldn't be considered grand.
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The Most Important Issue Result - "Robosexual marriages are increasingly common."

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Postby Murkwood » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:52 am

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
Murkwood wrote:This is what right-wingers like me get when we try to make heroes out of anti-government nuts.

No shit, unpatriotic dicks shouldn't be considered grand.

No, they shouldn't. Some on the Left did it with Occupy, and some on the Right are doing it here.
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Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:56 am

Murkwood wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:No shit, unpatriotic dicks shouldn't be considered grand.

No, they shouldn't. Some on the Left did it with Occupy, and some on the Right are doing it here.

I still don't agree on the Occupy thing with you dude :/

Regardless, if the Right can stop idolizing these unpatriotic fuckwits, and started compromising more, and stop sucking the corporate teet....then I will give more respect to it as a whole.

I swear this political party shit is annoying, people keep switching sides all too much, because neither party has ever been consistent.

I just don't understand this political divide in America.
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The Most Important Issue Result - "Robosexual marriages are increasingly common."

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:57 am

Murkwood wrote:This is what right-wingers like me get when we try to make heroes out of anti-government nuts.

So remember there was this time when a mom of a fallen soldier was super upset and decided to make a big deal about it and some Democratic leaning folk were all prepared to make her into a folk hero but then she started talking more and more and the Democratic leaning folk went, "Oh...crap. She's kind of off her nut..." and tried to slowly, quietly walk away? And for like two years after that Republican leaning folk kept bringing her up when she said stuff like she was still a folk hero and going all, "Hey, remember her? That woman you were all gung ho for? Listen to what she's done now..."

Karma.
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Postby Thafoo » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:57 am

what a fucking idiot

I mean, more than before

which is hard to do

but he's done it

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:58 am

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
Murkwood wrote:No, they shouldn't. Some on the Left did it with Occupy, and some on the Right are doing it here.

I still don't agree on the Occupy thing with you dude :/

Regardless, if the Right can stop idolizing these unpatriotic fuckwits, and started compromising more, and stop sucking the corporate teet....then I will give more respect to it as a whole.

I swear this political party shit is annoying, people keep switching sides all too much, because neither party has ever been consistent.

I just don't understand this political divide in America.


It's easier to win elections when you can demonize the other party, and the people in it.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:02 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:I still don't agree on the Occupy thing with you dude :/

Regardless, if the Right can stop idolizing these unpatriotic fuckwits, and started compromising more, and stop sucking the corporate teet....then I will give more respect to it as a whole.

I swear this political party shit is annoying, people keep switching sides all too much, because neither party has ever been consistent.

I just don't understand this political divide in America.


It's easier to win elections when you can demonize the other party, and the people in it.

Yeah, and it makes the sides that do it a bunch of pussies

...I'm sorry, I just really hate Americas political divide, I hate Congress...

I don't really think people like that are pussies, thats wrong of me.

I just find the act to be spineless.
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The Most Important Issue Result - "Robosexual marriages are increasingly common."

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Postby Phocidaea » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:08 pm

This can't hurt Bundy's cause, unfortunately, because almost everyone who still supports him believes the same way.
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Postby Progressive Tech » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:10 pm

His cause was never there. I see it as some guy whining about not getting to break the law. Seriously, dude, isn't it kind of ironic that he's whining about "free-loaders" considering what he's doing?

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Postby New Europa Union » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:14 pm

Did anyone else see this coming a mile away?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:18 pm

Progressive Tech wrote:His cause was never there. I see it as some guy whining about not getting to break the law. Seriously, dude, isn't it kind of ironic that he's whining about "free-loaders" considering what he's doing?

He doesn't want to sponge off the state, he doesn't believe the federal state should be involved in the distribution or use of land at all.
So in his mind, the federal dispute is an inconvenience and nothing actually happened. For twenty years.
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:35 pm

Phocidaea wrote:This can't hurt Bundy's cause, unfortunately, because almost everyone who still supports him believes the same way.


That's quite a blanket generalization.
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:37 pm

Progressive Tech wrote:His cause was never there. I see it as some guy whining about not getting to break the law. Seriously, dude, isn't it kind of ironic that he's whining about "free-loaders" considering what he's doing?


Considering what he's doing? You mean like working the land his whole life, the same land his forefathers worked? Yeah, totallu comparable to free-loaders.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:52 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Progressive Tech wrote:His cause was never there. I see it as some guy whining about not getting to break the law. Seriously, dude, isn't it kind of ironic that he's whining about "free-loaders" considering what he's doing?


Considering what he's doing? You mean like working the land his whole life, the same land his forefathers worked? Yeah, totallu comparable to free-loaders.

We'll he is free loading the land in question if you've read the previous pages of post was jot his he stopped paying in 1993 and still used the land and doesn't matter if your ancestors ranches their before you. If you don't pay the appropriate fees then you don't get to use the land.
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Postby Sociobiology » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:02 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Progressive Tech wrote:His cause was never there. I see it as some guy whining about not getting to break the law. Seriously, dude, isn't it kind of ironic that he's whining about "free-loaders" considering what he's doing?


Considering what he's doing? You mean like working the land his whole life, the same land his forefathers worked? Yeah, totallu comparable to free-loaders.

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he is a free loader.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:07 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:Fuck that guy. Seriously. I had a modicum of support for the guy out of sympathy for the principle behind his argument, but he's not doing it out of a principle he's just a fucking welfare-rancher with ass-backwards views on society and delusions of grandeur.


It took you this long to figure that out?
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:11 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Fuck that guy. Seriously. I had a modicum of support for the guy out of sympathy for the principle behind his argument, but he's not doing it out of a principle he's just a fucking welfare-rancher with ass-backwards views on society and delusions of grandeur.


It took you this long to figure that out?

Nah, I pretty much knew from the beginning.
I was just hoping he'd shut the fuck up and let the portion of his argument there's actually a point take over instead of...what he's done.
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