The DHS's "Constitution Free" Zones

[Hathradic States]

Honestly... Seconded - that's all I really want, too - besides some violence upon those responsible for ruining my nation - once again... Oh, well.

"Ruining my nation"?

Please.
It isn't "your" nation. It's simply a patch of dirt with lines drawn around it.

As a nationalist, I say that it is my nation.

[Blasveck]

......*snort* Hahahaha!
Now we've gone into full-blown conspiracy theory mode.

That's because what's happening might as well started out as one, only NOW is it coming to fruition! You're right about that much - and in some ways, that's what make this act of police-state behavior worse!

"Police-State"

Last time I checked, I still had my freedom of speech.

[Blasveck]

"Ruining my nation"?

Please.
It isn't "your" nation. It's simply a patch of dirt with lines drawn around it.

As a nationalist, I say that it is my nation.

Why so?
What about America gives you pride?

[Agritum]

That's because what's happening might as well started out as one, only NOW is it coming to fruition! You're right about that much - and in some ways, that's what make this act of police-state behavior worse!

"Police-State"

Last time I checked, I still had my freedom of speech.

I wouldn't call it a police state but, as far as I know, the unwarranted arrests and the harassment by border guards is a quite shitty thing.

[Hathradic States]

As a nationalist, I say that it is my nation.

Why so?
What about America gives you pride?

The millions of men who died defending it, keeping it whole, expanding its interest, and beating the Nazis.

[Agritum]

Why so?
What about America gives you pride?

The millions of men who died defending it, keeping it whole, expanding its interest, and beating the Nazis.

You beat the Nazis only manufacturing-wise

The USSR did the dirty job.

[Qahadim]

That's because what's happening might as well started out as one, only NOW is it coming to fruition! You're right about that much - and in some ways, that's what make this act of police-state behavior worse!

"Police-State"

Last time I checked, I still had my freedom of speech.

While I think Mr./miss nacio is taking the argument into the extreme fringes, I must protest your criterion for police state. We aren't "as bad" as other examples of police states in history, but we ARE traveling down that path. We need to nix it now, whole we are able to. Or the "yet" will be upon us and will be able to do next to nothing about it.

[Blasveck]

Why so?
What about America gives you pride?

The millions of men who died defending it, keeping it whole, expanding its interest, and beating the Nazis.

1. Millions of sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters who died for what? NSA surveillance?
2. What interests exactly?
3. The Soviets did quite a bit of it themselves. Hell, they beat us to Berlin.

[Bendira]

Why so?
What about America gives you pride?

The millions of men who died defending it, keeping it whole, expanding its interest, and beating the Nazis.

So you worship an arbitrary plot of dirt that a bunch of slave draftees died for at the behest of a bunch of politicians.

Sorry if I cant get enthused enough to join you

[Genivaria]

The millions of men who died defending it, keeping it whole, expanding its interest, and beating the Nazis.

You beat the Nazis only manufacturing-wise

The USSR did the dirty job.

And we thanked them for it by NOT listening to Patton and allowing them to exist.

[Napkiraly]

Wisconsin, too. Hell, just give them the whole Great Lakes region.

Oh god no, not Detroit

Yeah, leave Detroit out of the package. Everything else is cool though.

[Blasveck]

The millions of men who died defending it, keeping it whole, expanding its interest, and beating the Nazis.

So you worship an arbitrary plot of dirt that a bunch of slave draftees died for at the behest of a bunch of politicians.

Sorry if I cant get enthused enough to join you

^ This

[Agritum]

You beat the Nazis only manufacturing-wise

The USSR did the dirty job.

And we thanked them for it by NOT listening to Patton and allowing them to exist.

You actually did the right thing.

Operation Unthinkable would have been a massacre.

[Hathradic States]

The millions of men who died defending it, keeping it whole, expanding its interest, and beating the Nazis.

1. Millions of sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters who died for what? NSA surveillance?
2. What interests exactly?
3. The Soviets did quite a bit of it themselves. Hell, they beat us to Berlin.

1. For their country. Despite America's flaws, I would not live in any other country willingly. It is my home, and I love it. I just hate the government.
2. Mostly political (see Korea, Vietnam)
3. Yeah, but without us making their trucks for them, they would have had a hell of a time doing that.

[Hathradic States]

And we thanked them for it by NOT listening to Patton and allowing them to exist.

You actually did the right thing.

Operation Unthinkable would have been a massacre.

For all sides involved. Probably would have ended with us nuking the Russians, though.

[Blasveck]

1. Millions of sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters who died for what? NSA surveillance?
2. What interests exactly?
3. The Soviets did quite a bit of it themselves. Hell, they beat us to Berlin.

1. For their country. Despite America's flaws, I would not live in any other country willingly. It is my home, and I love it. I just hate the government.
2. Mostly political (see Korea, Vietnam)
3. Yeah, but without us making their trucks for them, they would have had a hell of a time doing that.

1. While I wouldn't rather live anywhere else, I despise the fact that a bunch of old men in a city far away from me gets to decide to sends me, my sister, or my future son/daughter off to war if they fucking feel like it.
2. We lost Vietnam, hon.

[Agritum]

You actually did the right thing.

Operation Unthinkable would have been a massacre.

For all sides involved. Probably would have ended with us nuking the Russians, though.

Not really. Little Boy and Fatman were the only two nukes in the American stockpile, IIRC.

[Hathradic States]

For all sides involved. Probably would have ended with us nuking the Russians, though.

Not really. Little Boy and Fatman were the only two nukes in the American stockpile, IIRC.

We would have had more before the Russians had any.

[Agritum]

Not really. Little Boy and Fatman were the only two nukes in the American stockpile, IIRC.

We would have had more before the Russians had any.

But the Soviets would have already overrun Europe, by that point.

We are also speaking of WW2 era atom bombs.

[Hathradic States]

1. For their country. Despite America's flaws, I would not live in any other country willingly. It is my home, and I love it. I just hate the government.
2. Mostly political (see Korea, Vietnam)
3. Yeah, but without us making their trucks for them, they would have had a hell of a time doing that.

1. While I wouldn't rather live anywhere else, I despise the fact that a bunch of old men in a city far away from me gets to decide to sends me, my sister, or my future son/daughter off to war if they fucking feel like it.
2. We lost Vietnam, hon.

1. That happens no matter where you live. At least now we don't have a draft.
2. I didn't say I love it because we always won.

[The Parkus Empire]

1. Millions of sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters who died for what? NSA surveillance?
2. What interests exactly?
3. The Soviets did quite a bit of it themselves. Hell, they beat us to Berlin.

1. For their country. Despite America's flaws, I would not live in any other country willingly. It is my home, and I love it. I just hate the government.
2. Mostly political (see Korea, Vietnam)
3. Yeah, but without us making their trucks for them, they would have had a hell of a time doing that.

Why do you hate the government?

[Qahadim]

For all sides involved. Probably would have ended with us nuking the Russians, though.

Not really. Little Boy and Fatman were the only two nukes in the American stockpile, IIRC.

You do, but at the time we were the only nation capable of producing nuclear weapons. We would have made a few more to bomb Russia with.

[Bendira]

1. For their country. Despite America's flaws, I would not live in any other country willingly. It is my home, and I love it. I just hate the government.

I wouldn't want to live in any country either, because I tan during the summer and America would probably kill me with a hellfire missile for being brown

2. Mostly political (see Korea, Vietnam)

What glorious monuments to human freedom were those two wars

[Blasveck]

1. While I wouldn't rather live anywhere else, I despise the fact that a bunch of old men in a city far away from me gets to decide to sends me, my sister, or my future son/daughter off to war if they fucking feel like it.
2. We lost Vietnam, hon.

1. That happens no matter where you live. At least now we don't have a draft.
2. I didn't say I love it because we always won.

1. I'd rather it never happen, which is why I'm a Libertarian.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Oh crap, the DHS is watching my computer screen? Thats really not good.....