Russia - Gay Rights - Sochi Olympics Megathread

[Acadzia]

Nah. The gays (or rather, the white, WASPy, straight liberals who are forcing their lifestyle down our throats) have the West. Let them have it, and let the rest of the world do what it wants. It's like, if you and I are two food carts on a street and you go pure vegan: why should I have to follow, just because you wanted to? Let all the meat eaters come to me, let all the vegans and vegan-recipe aficionados go to you. I don't get why we need Russia to capitulate to us. How would we feel if they forced, say, Russian Orthodoxy on us. Why do we feel the need to force Western post-Christian nihilism on them?

I gotta say, of I didn't have prior oaths and arrangements to my Queen and Country, I'd return to the land of my forefathers: Russia.

Just...fuck.

What the fuck is wrong with people like me being open for who they are?
I'm bi, and I am certainly not trying to force "my lifestyle" down your throat.

It's called acceptance. Something I hope you can understand.

Gays have been accepted for quite a while. It's getting beyond that now. Those who conscientiously object, or who don't want to hear about it or see it, are getting forced to. An Anglican parish in England is about to be sued because they chose not to participate in a gay wedding. Cake decorators and photographers in Canada and the US have been sued or boycotted for choosing to not partake in a gay wedding (even though, in all cases, they politely declined and referred the people to other businesses.) My town had a gay mayor, we have a gay MP, and there's gay events all the time - paid for by my tax money. It is getting out of hand.

Most, like 99% of gay people, are like anyone else. Chill. Normal. Whatever. It's the politically-active few who seek to force their lifestyle on everyone else I have a problem with. Boycott Russia if you want. Boycott the Olympics. Write your MP or Congressman for your country to do so. Fine. But this is a popular thing in Russia and part of their culture, and they won't change to us any more than we'd want to change to them. Let it be.

[Mike the Progressive]

I already know the guy is an idiot. I don't need to know his name. It doesn't help me with work, graduate school, or getting some poontang. The name is irrelevant.

Neither do most of your NSG posts, Nixon, so thank you for admitting that they're irrelevant

No problem. I'm willing to admit that political (and other) views expressed on a forum are essentially irrelevant, except to stroke one's own ego. The real question is how many other NSers realize this truth?

[Shofercia]

Neither do most of your NSG posts, Nixon, so thank you for admitting that they're irrelevant

No problem. I'm willing to admit that political (and other) views expressed on a forum are essentially irrelevant, except to stroke one's own ego. The real question is how many other NSers realize this truth?

Don't you mean NSGers? Cause I learn quite a bit from II

[Mike the Progressive]

I think it was just Obamania in Europe, especially since Bush was so unpopular there.

It's easier to be more popular than Sir Bombsalot

Which is strange when one considers Obama's liberal use of predator drones armed with hellfire missiles...

[Soviet Russia Republic]

Neither do most of your NSG posts, Nixon, so thank you for admitting that they're irrelevant

No problem. I'm willing to admit that political (and other) views expressed on a forum are essentially irrelevant, except to stroke one's own ego. The real question is how many other NSers realize this truth?

I would hope so...than again it is NSG.

[Shofercia]

It's easier to be more popular than Sir Bombsalot

Which is strange when one considers Obama's liberal use of predator drones armed with hellfire missiles...

He doesn't Roq 'em

Iraq-I roq

[Genivaria]

It's easier to be more popular than Sir Bombsalot

Which is strange when one considers Obama's liberal use of predator drones armed with hellfire missiles...

Yeeeeah that's awkward.

[Mike the Progressive]

No problem. I'm willing to admit that political (and other) views expressed on a forum are essentially irrelevant, except to stroke one's own ego. The real question is how many other NSers realize this truth?

I would hope most...than again it is NSG.

Exactly. I use NSG purely to express views that are politically incorrect (though often they are satirical, which sadly is lost on many here), because I can't be so liberal with the use of my tongue at work, school, elsewhere (giggity).

I mean if some of my professors/peers knew I consider Nixon a great president, or that I don't think we have anything to apologize for in using the atomic bombs in Japan, they'd probably make a wood-secular symbol, light it on fire, dance around it in the name of science and reason, and burn me alive for academic heresy!

[Saruhan]

Last month, the leader of the church, Patriarch Kirill I, called the legalization of same-sex marriage a “very dangerous symptom of the apocalypse.”

Why would anyone listen to these people?

He isn't the head of the Church, he's the Patriarch of Russia.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Gays have been accepted for quite a while. It's getting beyond that now. Those who conscientiously object, or who don't want to hear about it or see it, are getting forced to. An Anglican parish in England is about to be sued because they chose not to participate in a gay wedding. Cake decorators and photographers in Canada and the US have been sued or boycotted for choosing to not partake in a gay wedding (even though, in all cases, they politely declined and referred the people to other businesses.) My town had a gay mayor, we have a gay MP, and there's gay events all the time - paid for by my tax money. It is getting out of hand.

Most, like 99% of gay people, are like anyone else. Chill. Normal. Whatever. It's the politically-active few who seek to force their lifestyle on everyone else I have a problem with. Boycott Russia if you want. Boycott the Olympics. Write your MP or Congressman for your country to do so. Fine. But this is a popular thing in Russia and part of their culture, and they won't change to us any more than we'd want to change to them. Let it be.

It is much more than fucking tax money.

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[Genivaria]

I would hope most...than again it is NSG.

Exactly. I use NSG purely to express views that are politically incorrect (though often they are satirical, which sadly is lost on many here), because I can't be so liberal with the use of my tongue at work, school, elsewhere (giggity).

I mean if some of my professors/peers knew I consider Nixon a great president, or that I don't think we have anything to apologize for in using the atomic bombs in Japan, they'd probably make a wood-secular symbol, light it on fire, dance around it in the name of science and reason, and burn me alive for academic heresy!

And instead of a cross you'd be tied to an atomic symbol, which then explodes.

[Shofercia]

I would hope most...than again it is NSG.

Exactly. I use NSG purely to express views that are politically incorrect (though often they are satirical, which sadly is lost on many here), because I can't be so liberal with the use of my tongue at work, school, elsewhere (giggity).

I mean if some of my professors/peers knew I consider Nixon a great president, or that I don't think we have anything to apologize for in using the atomic bombs in Japan, they'd probably make a wood-secular symbol, light it on fire, dance around it in the name of science and reason, and burn me alive for academic heresy!

I had a similar experience when I stated my admiration for Patton, to a Human Rights Panel, talk about awkward

That said - Nixon was still bad

[Nationalist State of Knox]

I'm more and more liking the idea of flooding the Olympics with LGBT people to create the "gayest Olympics ever".

It would be a lot more effective than a boycott in getting the message across.

They should be as fabulous as possible.

[Agymnum]

I would hope most...than again it is NSG.

Exactly. I use NSG purely to express views that are politically incorrect (though often they are satirical, which sadly is lost on many here), because I can't be so liberal with the use of my tongue at work, school, elsewhere (giggity).

I mean if some of my professors/peers knew I consider Nixon a great president, or that I don't think we have anything to apologize for in using the atomic bombs in Japan, they'd probably make a wood-secular symbol, light it on fire, dance around it in the name of science and reason, and burn me alive for academic heresy!

People know I think Nixon was a swell guy (minus Watergate and hating all them liberal hippies) and you don't see me getting burned alive.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Why would anyone listen to these people?

He isn't the head of the Church, he's the Patriarch of Russia.

Dem Soviets were too tolerant with those better neutered.

[Genivaria]

Exactly. I use NSG purely to express views that are politically incorrect (though often they are satirical, which sadly is lost on many here), because I can't be so liberal with the use of my tongue at work, school, elsewhere (giggity).

I mean if some of my professors/peers knew I consider Nixon a great president, or that I don't think we have anything to apologize for in using the atomic bombs in Japan, they'd probably make a wood-secular symbol, light it on fire, dance around it in the name of science and reason, and burn me alive for academic heresy!

People know I think Nixon was a swell guy (minus Watergate and hating all them liberal hippies) and you don't see me getting burned alive.

*BANG! BANG! BANG!* GET OUT HERE REPUBLICAN WE GOT SOMETHING FOR YA!!

[Agymnum]

People know I think Nixon was a swell guy (minus Watergate and hating all them liberal hippies) and you don't see me getting burned alive.

*BANG! BANG! BANG!* GET OUT HERE REPUBLICAN WE GOT SOMETHING FOR YA!!

The irony being I'm a social democrat (leaning on democratic socialist).

[Mike the Progressive]

Which is strange when one considers Obama's liberal use of predator drones armed with hellfire missiles...

Yeeeeah that's awkward.

It's a disgusting double-standard. To be fair, there are some who consistently oppose these tactics (I don't, at least not for reasons of principle, I just think we depend too much on tech over boots on the ground), but let's be honest. Obama is getting a lot more leeway on this than had Mccain or Romney won and continued on with the policy.

[Saruhan]

He isn't the head of the Church, he's the Patriarch of Russia.

Dem Soviets were too tolerant with those better neutered.

On the one hand, one of the good things about soviet style feminism is that no one has bitched about the name

[Genivaria]

Yeeeeah that's awkward.

It's a disgusting double-standard. To be fair, there are some who consistently oppose these tactics (I don't, at least not for reasons of principle, I just think we depend too much on tech over boots on the ground), but let's be honest. Obama is getting a lot more leeway on this than had Mccain or Romney won and continued on with the policy.

I used to support the drone policy whole-heartedly because I thought it caused LESS collateral damage.
I discovered otherwise.

[Shofercia]

He isn't the head of the Church, he's the Patriarch of Russia.

Dem Soviets were too tolerant with those better neutered.

Erm, when I see Stalin, I don't exactly see much tolerance...

[Mike the Progressive]

And instead of a cross you'd be tied to an atomic symbol, which then explodes.

I did say "wood-secular symbol"

That said - Nixon was still bad

And Putin is Joseph Stalin reincarnated.

[Mike the Progressive]

It's a disgusting double-standard. To be fair, there are some who consistently oppose these tactics (I don't, at least not for reasons of principle, I just think we depend too much on tech over boots on the ground), but let's be honest. Obama is getting a lot more leeway on this than had Mccain or Romney won and continued on with the policy.

I used to support the drone policy whole-heartedly because I thought it caused LESS collateral damage.
I discovered otherwise.

Well...less white people are dying, so...the only collateral damage that really matters?

[Shofercia]

That said - Nixon was still bad

And Putin is Joseph Stalin reincarnated.

Dude, you should do a thread about Nixon. It'd be hilarious

[Conserative Morality]

Yeeeeah that's awkward.

It's a disgusting double-standard. To be fair, there are some who consistently oppose these tactics (I don't, at least not for reasons of principle, I just think we depend too much on tech over boots on the ground), but let's be honest. Obama is getting a lot more leeway on this than had Mccain or Romney won and continued on with the policy.

Attitude counts for a lot. "Speak softly and carry a big stick" and all that.