Screw them. Only Greece has claims to New Byzantium. Not Central Asian nomads.
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by Mkuki » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:09 pm
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
by Gauthier » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:10 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:10 pm
by Arglorand » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:10 pm
by Quintium » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:10 pm
by Agorya » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:11 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:To the people voting that it isn't our problem, could you offer an argument as to why?
by The Scientific States » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:12 pm
by Mkuki » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:12 pm
Quintium wrote:What exactly is wrong with locking up people who commit crimes? If they come there, have their application for citizenship rejected and decide to stay, they should know that's the risk they're taking.
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
by Neoconstantius » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:12 pm
The Whispers wrote:Let the Turks take over Greece and run it properly.
by Arglorand » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:12 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:12 pm
Arglorand wrote:To be completely serious, there is a simple way to end this. Let's just stop saving the Greek economy if they don't cut it out. Kick them from the EU if we must.
by The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 pm
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Esen » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Arglorand wrote:To be completely serious, there is a simple way to end this. Let's just stop saving the Greek economy if they don't cut it out. Kick them from the EU if we must.
I am serious about military intervention and sanctions.
I'd have the process go thusly:
1. Demand they cease the camps and allow in inspectors to oversee this process.
2. If these demands aren't met, suspend greeces EU membership and place sanctions on them while negotiations begin.
3. If after a few months no progress is made, cease negotiation and terminate greeces EU membership while preparing to mount an invasion.
4. Occupy greece for a while using EU forces. If necessary, divide greece into spheres of occupation and begin a Denazification process.
by The Scientific States » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 pm
by Gravlen » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:14 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:I was wondering why there isn't a thread on this and figured i'd make one.
Are you aware that Greece has recently been rounding up Immigrants, LGBT's, drug users, sex workers, and those in debt into internment camps under the name of Operation Zeus?
What should be done about it, if anything?
In my opinion, immediate international pressure needs to be placed against the greeks to discontinue the camps and to allow inspectors in to oversee this process. If evidence is found of deliberate genocide or passive genocide (by making the camps so awful that people die from the conditions) then military intervention may be required. There must be sanctions, and the government must be brought to trial.
Sources inbound:http://scriptonitedaily.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/coming-here-soon-greece-imprisoning-poor-immigrants-and-lgbt-in-internment-camps/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ma ... s-migrants
http://www.globalinsecurity.net/greece- ... ansgender/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... GB20120429
http://feministphilosophers.wordpress.c ... ent-camps/
http://www.2ndcouncilhouse.co.uk/blog/2 ... ns-people/
EDIT:
http://act.watchdog.net/petitions/3322? ... 360.vK-3Zb
Petition. Likely useless but screw it.
by Mkuki » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:14 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Arglorand wrote:To be completely serious, there is a simple way to end this. Let's just stop saving the Greek economy if they don't cut it out. Kick them from the EU if we must.
I am serious about military intervention and sanctions.
I'd have the process go thusly:
1. Demand they cease the camps and allow in inspectors to oversee this process.
2. If these demands aren't met, suspend greeces EU membership and place sanctions on them while negotiations begin.
3. If after a few months no progress is made, cease negotiation and terminate greeces EU membership while preparing to mount an invasion.
4. Occupy greece for a while using EU forces. If necessary, divide greece into spheres of occupation and begin a Denazification process.
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
by Arglorand » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:14 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Arglorand wrote:To be completely serious, there is a simple way to end this. Let's just stop saving the Greek economy if they don't cut it out. Kick them from the EU if we must.
I am serious about military intervention and sanctions.
I'd have the process go thusly:
1. Demand they cease the camps and allow in inspectors to oversee this process.
2. If these demands aren't met, suspend greeces EU membership and place sanctions on them while negotiations begin.
3. If after a few months no progress is made, cease negotiation and terminate greeces EU membership while preparing to mount an invasion.
4. Occupy greece for a while using EU forces. If necessary, divide greece into spheres of occupation and begin a Denazification process.
by The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:14 pm
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Agorya » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:15 pm
by Nazis in Space » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:15 pm
There's no procedure for kicking countries out of the EU.Arglorand wrote:To be completely serious, there is a simple way to end this. Let's just stop saving the Greek economy if they don't cut it out. Kick them from the EU if we must.
by Gothmogs » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:15 pm
by Esen » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:15 pm
Arglorand wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
I am serious about military intervention and sanctions.
I'd have the process go thusly:
1. Demand they cease the camps and allow in inspectors to oversee this process.
2. If these demands aren't met, suspend greeces EU membership and place sanctions on them while negotiations begin.
3. If after a few months no progress is made, cease negotiation and terminate greeces EU membership while preparing to mount an invasion.
4. Occupy greece for a while using EU forces. If necessary, divide greece into spheres of occupation and begin a Denazification process.
Really, they're not as stupid as we tend to think they are. Let's give them a serious, stern threat that will make the consequences of continued being Nazi wannabes clear. They'll come around.
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