“Distribute the wealth!” Bolling exclaimed, reading the worksheet. “Distribute the wealth with the lovely rich girl with a big ole bag of money, handing some money out.”
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by Geilinor » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:29 pm
“Distribute the wealth!” Bolling exclaimed, reading the worksheet. “Distribute the wealth with the lovely rich girl with a big ole bag of money, handing some money out.”
by Euronion » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:29 pm
Xsyne wrote:Euronion wrote:I disagree that math books are liberally biased but I definitely agree that History Textbooks are liberally biased. A red flag to me when reading a text book is when the authors use emotional words ex. "This was a horrible abuse," , "This was an amazing achievement for the country." A textbook should present the facts and analysis of those facts but by no means anything else what-so-ever.
Incredibly enough, the notion that slavery and genocide are bad things comes from an analysis of the facts.
Thomas Paine wrote:"to argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead"
by Socialist States Owen » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:31 pm
by Geilinor » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:33 pm
they were very, very liberally biased, saying George Bush went in there because he heard there were weapons of mass destruction and they were never found. It was a very liberal bias to the history books.
by Individuality-ness » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:34 pm
Geilinor wrote:they were very, very liberally biased, saying George Bush went in there because he heard there were weapons of mass destruction and they were never found. It was a very liberal bias to the history books.
Really? That's bias? No, that's the fucking truth. Bush did not find WMDs.
by The Emerald Dawn » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:35 pm
by TomKirk » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:36 pm
by Bojikami » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:36 pm
by Individuality-ness » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:37 pm
by CVT Temp » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:54 pm
by Ceannairceach » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:58 pm
Euronion wrote:Xsyne wrote:Incredibly enough, the notion that slavery and genocide are bad things comes from an analysis of the facts.
No it does not. It is a matter of opinion. I think slavery and genocide are wrong as well but I believe that we need to have our textbooks completely unbiased in every respect. Textbooks should teach the facts and nothing more. If you want to show something is horrible you don't say "This was horrible" you give facts to back up your statement. The Textbook should instead say "Estimates for the amount of people Hitler killed are around 18 million people. The living conditions in Concentration camps often led to many deaths. Prisoners were given no blankets, only wooden bunks to sleep on, they were required to work as long as possible without exception, and were often not fed or fed very little.
by Ordenburg » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:03 pm
CVT Temp wrote:But math does have a liberal bias. You see, according to math, finances and free market capitalism are racist and evil.
Proof:
1. Racial integration was a good thing.
2. According to the fundamental theorem of calculus, integration is the opposite of differentiation.
3. Therefore, since integration was good, derivatives must be bad, and so must everything associated with them.
4. Ergo, derivatives trading is bad and racist and so is capitalism (because it's associated with derivatives, so the associative property holds), and therefore Islam and black lesbian abortionism are good.
5. Praise Stalin.
QED
Do you really want the liberal filth known as "calculus" taught to your children?
by Death Metal » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:04 pm
CVT Temp wrote:And I always thought "commutativity" and "community organizer" sounded to similar. You know what they sound like to me? Communism.
by Ordenburg » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:08 pm
by Euronion » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:13 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:Euronion wrote:No it does not. It is a matter of opinion. I think slavery and genocide are wrong as well but I believe that we need to have our textbooks completely unbiased in every respect. Textbooks should teach the facts and nothing more. If you want to show something is horrible you don't say "This was horrible" you give facts to back up your statement. The Textbook should instead say "Estimates for the amount of people Hitler killed are around 18 million people. The living conditions in Concentration camps often led to many deaths. Prisoners were given no blankets, only wooden bunks to sleep on, they were required to work as long as possible without exception, and were often not fed or fed very little.
You sound like you're getting mad at sixth grade texts. Most high school textbooks I used are straight up and, barring the occasional bad pun, silly joke or unnecessary exclamation point, were very clear and unbiased in regards to the presentation of facts.
Perhaps its that AP standard, but really, it can't be that different.
Thomas Paine wrote:"to argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead"
by Ceannairceach » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:18 pm
Euronion wrote:Ceannairceach wrote:You sound like you're getting mad at sixth grade texts. Most high school textbooks I used are straight up and, barring the occasional bad pun, silly joke or unnecessary exclamation point, were very clear and unbiased in regards to the presentation of facts.
Perhaps its that AP standard, but really, it can't be that different.
The AP Standard is horribly biased. The text book I have is "American People" and it is really biased. I mean there's an entire chapter I believe devoted to American Indians and the horrors they went through and they act as if all the American Indians did were live peacefully with Quakers. They glorify the violent American Indian attacks on early British Settlements, they neglect to mention that many people died because American Indians refused to trade excess food with the colonists. During the Revolutionary war they fail to mention the atrocities committed against Americans by American Indians such as scalping women but then turns around and basically says that American dislike of American Indians and trying to remove them from their land after forming a Confederation to try and fight US expansion was unjustified and that all American Indians are innocent people. I mean seriously, present the facts completely and refrain from using emotion. Though the normal History textbooks such as "Modern World History" by Nat. Geo. are pretty unbiased and so I liked them a lot more. The way my friend described it is that the people qualified to write AP Textbooks are mostly liberally biased because they all have degrees in Liberal Arts which are all taught by super liberal teachers.
by Liriena » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:20 pm
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by Quebec and Atlantic Canada » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:21 pm
by Liriena » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:26 pm
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by Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:31 pm
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".
Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.
by Liriena » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:32 pm
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'm not sure if this is funny or depressing.
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by Euronion » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:36 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:Euronion wrote:
The AP Standard is horribly biased. The text book I have is "American People" and it is really biased. I mean there's an entire chapter I believe devoted to American Indians and the horrors they went through and they act as if all the American Indians did were live peacefully with Quakers. They glorify the violent American Indian attacks on early British Settlements, they neglect to mention that many people died because American Indians refused to trade excess food with the colonists. During the Revolutionary war they fail to mention the atrocities committed against Americans by American Indians such as scalping women but then turns around and basically says that American dislike of American Indians and trying to remove them from their land after forming a Confederation to try and fight US expansion was unjustified and that all American Indians are innocent people. I mean seriously, present the facts completely and refrain from using emotion. Though the normal History textbooks such as "Modern World History" by Nat. Geo. are pretty unbiased and so I liked them a lot more. The way my friend described it is that the people qualified to write AP Textbooks are mostly liberally biased because they all have degrees in Liberal Arts which are all taught by super liberal teachers.
Is "American People" for AP United States History? For that I used "The Enduring Vision", which was pretty good.
People who write AP textbooks usually have degrees in the relevant field of study. Liberal Arts is pretty general; I wouldn't believe that they are writing textbooks. Also, I think you are making that judgement based solely on the name of the major.
EDIT 1: Typo.
EDIT 2: My textbook from APUSH. Harvard, Harvard, Harvard, U Cal, and Columbia.
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