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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:38 pm

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OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Fencing only has one purpose...to increase your swordsmanship. To become more adept at using swords, where the ultimate goal is to kill. Simulated or real.


Yep.


Are you serious? My sister fences. Are you saying she is training to kill?
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:38 pm

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Prize money is a by product of the ultimate goal of shooting. Not saying its wrong but lets not kid ourselves that it is nothing more than a method to become a better shot so one can kill or simulate a kill with the least amount of shots.

Do you feel the same about archery?

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:I honestly have no issue with target shooting.

Neither do I.


Archery? Yep.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:39 pm

Ubermenschklippe wrote:
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Not really because target shooting has one purpose...to increase your shooting proficiency. To become more adept at shooting firearms where the ultimate goal is to kill. Simulated or real.


If a psychopath opens fire on a group of people, and a bystander with target shooting experience puts a bullet in him sooner rather than later, it solves some problems. Do you deny it?


Because someone armed with a pistol would totally be milling around a suburban elementary school.
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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:39 pm

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ehh... no. If teachers are armed I either dont want to attend that school, or Im going to be armed as well when attending.



If the teachers pass thorough background checks, then what's the problem?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:39 pm

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ehh... no. If teachers are armed I either dont want to attend that school, or Im going to be armed as well when attending.

You're that bad of a discipline problem?
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:39 pm

Farnhamia wrote:How many turkeys did you end up with in your freezer?

Four this year, and those were with a bow. (They're gone now, hunting season in Georgia usually ends in May.) I'm really terrible with shotguns so I try not to hunt with them.
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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:39 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
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Now look at the definition of "home invasion" that they're using.


And? Breaking in when occupants are home to rob and or rape them is a Home Invasion.

Home invasion is the act of illegally entering a private and occupied dwelling with violent intent for the purpose of committing a crime against the occupants.

So yeah i think they defined it pretty well.


Yup. And that in no way matches the definition you were using.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:39 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Gauntleted Fist wrote:I paid the firearm off that I use to shoot in six months. :lol:

(Of course I live in the south where local, small-scale tournaments happen a lot. I might only win one in fifty, but finishing well is enough usually.)

How many turkeys did you end up with in your freezer?


I just went out hunting last night, though I dont have any turkeys I bagged a deer.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:40 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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You only use lethal force when someone is using lethal force against you or if you have a reasonable belief that someone is about to use lethal force against you.

If someone is breaking into your house he's probably after your booze and your stereos. Don't shoot him.


And let him steal the stuff that you worked and paid for? lol, okay :roll:

That's what insurance is for. Is the stuff you worked for worth risking your life?
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Postby Actum » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:40 pm

I think that that the liberal democrats in power now are aranegeing the shootings so they can ban guns and take over. Mavis I'm crazy but It seems there's a patern.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:40 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:How many turkeys did you end up with in your freezer?


I just went out hunting last night, though I dont have any turkeys I bagged a deer.

Thanks for missing the point. ;)
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:40 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Yep.


Are you serious? My sister fences. Are you saying she is training to kill?


You might want to keep an eye on her. :shock:
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:41 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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ehh... no. If teachers are armed I either dont want to attend that school, or Im going to be armed as well when attending.



If the teachers pass thorough background checks, then what's the problem?


That the teacher is the kind of person who feels it necessary to carry a gun into a room full of children.
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:41 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Thanks for missing the point. ;)

Oh, I also missed it, then. Mind explaining? (I have no idea what you mean by "turkeys" then?)
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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:41 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Bafuria wrote:

You only use lethal force when someone is using lethal force against you or if you have a reasonable belief that someone is about to use lethal force against you.

If someone is breaking into your house he's probably after your booze and your stereos. Don't shoot him.


And let him steal the stuff that you worked and paid for? lol, okay :roll:

File a police report. Unless it's a really, like top-end stereo. That has a soul.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:42 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
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http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr

And yet, And yet? The FBI has the same numbers in 2009

._. It's just pro gun propaganda though right?

You realize that you linked me to the FBI uniform reports page, and not anything with any statistics on home invasion.


Oh my mistake but the Violent Crime rate makes me think this entire thing is excercise in pointlessness.

in 2009, an estimated 1,318,398 violent crimes occurred nationwide, a decrease of
5.3 percent from the 2008 estimate.

Information collected regarding type of weapon showed that firearms were used in
67.1 percent of the Nation’s murders, 42.6 percent of robberies, and 20.9 percent of aggravated assaults

._. Obviously the solution is to shoot those who would Harm you.

Those are FBI stat's and while i might not like them very much i assume they sort of know what they are doing as far as record keeping.

I sort of learned something that those stats were not defined to the "Home invasion" Brackett and from the general crime rate thus i figured why not use the general crime rate or rather the violent crimes, such as murder, rape, assault and etc?

And this information is all assessble from that link i provided earlier.
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:42 pm

*sigh* not 6 hours after 20 young children were gunned down in cold blood then the hordes of ITGs descent spouting off about how this totally wouldn't have happened if they were there.

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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:42 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:

If the teachers pass thorough background checks, then what's the problem?


That the teacher is the kind of person who feels it necessary to carry a gun into a room full of children.


The gun will be used to protect the children from people who actually want to harm them.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:42 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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Yep.


Are you serious? My sister fences. Are you saying she is training to kill?


So she isn't being trained to hit her opponent in areas that would cause severe injury and or death?
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Libertarian California wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
ehh... no. If teachers are armed I either dont want to attend that school, or Im going to be armed as well when attending.



If the teachers pass thorough background checks, then what's the problem?


That there is a gun in a position where it is either a) so inaccessible as to be completely useless, or b) plausibly accessible by young children. If you can't see the problem here, you're wilfully deceiving yourself.
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Neo Art wrote:*sigh* not 6 hours after 20 young children were gunned down in cold blood then the hordes of ITGs descent spouting off about how this totally wouldn't have happened if they were there.

Never. Fucking. Fails.

Well, it is NSG.

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Libertarian California wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
That the teacher is the kind of person who feels it necessary to carry a gun into a room full of children.


The gun will be used to protect the children from people who actually want to harm them.

Because guns produce magical anti-harm fields.
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Farnhamia wrote:Thanks for missing the point. ;)

Oh, I also missed it, then. Mind explaining? (I have no idea what you mean by "turkeys" then?)

Oh, well, in the olden days small shooting contests out in the country were called "turkey shoots." If you won you got a turkey as a prize. Apparently that grand old American tradition has gone the way of the liberal Republican and the Southern Democrat. Tsk.
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And let him steal the stuff that you worked and paid for? lol, okay :roll:

File a police report. Unless it's a really, like top-end stereo. That has a soul.


Should you at least be allowed to draw your weapon and threaten him, to get him off of your property?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:44 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
That the teacher is the kind of person who feels it necessary to carry a gun into a room full of children.


The gun will be used to protect the children from people who actually want to harm them.


How are you going to teach and keep an eye on the door? You going to carry the weapon around the room?
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