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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:59 am

Arkinesia wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote: And when (potentially) corporate doesn't do anything because there's an institutional undercurrent of bigotry?

They're doing a terrible job of being bigoted, then. Because the guy who was my manager most nights was openly gay.

Everyone knew he was gay including management (the owner was a fiercely conservative Southern Baptist, fwiw). But he had been promoted twice since he started working there.
Great, so a handful of people knew, good for them (oh and conservatism and religion don't necessarily belie bigotry btw). That's one example, you don't know what has or is happening at other Chick-fil-A stores, so all you know is your particular store was the exception.

Evidence points to a very public corporate culture of, once again, bigotry and support of marginalization of a minority, and since management usually hires like-minded individuals to work under them odds are that Dan Cathy isn't the only bigot in a position of power in Chick-fil-A's corporate structure.
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:01 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:They're doing a terrible job of being bigoted, then. Because the guy who was my manager most nights was openly gay.

Everyone knew he was gay including management (the owner was a fiercely conservative Southern Baptist, fwiw). But he had been promoted twice since he started working there.
Great, so a handful of people knew, good for them (oh and conservatism and religion don't necessarily belie bigotry btw). That's one example, you don't know what has or is happening at other Chick-fil-A stores, so all you know is your particular store was the exception.

Evidence points to a very public corporate culture of, once again, bigotry and support of marginalization of a minority, and since management usually hires like-minded individuals to work under them odds are that Dan Cathy isn't the only bigot in a position of power in Chick-fil-A's corporate structure.

I have two friends who work at other Chick-fil-A restaurants.

They too work or have worked with openly gay and lesbian employees.

Is it too late to point out that Truett Cathy's earlier restaurants were some of the first in Atlanta to be desegregated?
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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:04 pm

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Northern Dominus wrote: Great, so a handful of people knew, good for them (oh and conservatism and religion don't necessarily belie bigotry btw). That's one example, you don't know what has or is happening at other Chick-fil-A stores, so all you know is your particular store was the exception.

Evidence points to a very public corporate culture of, once again, bigotry and support of marginalization of a minority, and since management usually hires like-minded individuals to work under them odds are that Dan Cathy isn't the only bigot in a position of power in Chick-fil-A's corporate structure.

I have two friends who work at other Chick-fil-A restaurants.

They too work or have worked with openly gay and lesbian employees.

Is it too late to point out that Truett Cathy's earlier restaurants were some of the first in Atlanta to be desegregated?
Good for her, any idea when this happened? I'd be happy with a conformable year.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:04 pm

I don't think "hey, they don't agree with me!" when i'm at Chick-fil-a.
I simply eat, because chicken is bad ass.
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:08 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:I have two friends who work at other Chick-fil-A restaurants.

They too work or have worked with openly gay and lesbian employees.

Is it too late to point out that Truett Cathy's earlier restaurants were some of the first in Atlanta to be desegregated?
Good for her, any idea when this happened? I'd be happy with a conformable year.

I don't recall the precise year but I do know it was in the mid-1950s.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:10 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:I don't think "hey, they don't agree with me!" when i'm at Chick-fil-a.
I simply eat, because chicken is bad ass.


Eating bad ass? :blink:
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:11 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:I don't think "hey, they don't agree with me!" when i'm at Chick-fil-a.
I simply eat, because chicken is bad ass.


Eating bad ass? :blink:

And you are what you eat, therefore Inky Noodles is bad ass.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:13 pm

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Northern Dominus wrote: Good for her, any idea when this happened? I'd be happy with a conformable year.

I don't recall the precise year but I do know it was in the mid-1950s.
If that is true then that's all well and good.

But that doesn't excuse the fact that Dan Cathy, the Chief Operations Officer of Chick-fil-A and the son of the company founder has confirmed that he has donated to hate groups masquerading under the banners of religion and "family values" and has implicated that the franchise as a whole supports these groups efforts.

So therin lies the rub. LGBT people are good enough to work for Chick-fil-A, but the company would rather they didn't have the same fundamental rights as the rest of us.
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:21 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:I don't recall the precise year but I do know it was in the mid-1950s.
If that is true then that's all well and good.

But that doesn't excuse the fact that Dan Cathy, the Chief Operations Officer of Chick-fil-A and the son of the company founder has confirmed that he has donated to hate groups masquerading under the banners of religion and "family values" and has implicated that the franchise as a whole supports these groups efforts.

So therin lies the rub. LGBT people are good enough to work for Chick-fil-A, but the company would rather they didn't have the same fundamental rights as the rest of us.

Chick-fil-A publicly announced in 2011 they would stop donating to anti-gay groups.

That article does nothing to claim they donated to anti-gay groups after that time.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Eating bad ass? :blink:

And you are what you eat, therefore Inky Noodles is bad ass.

You betcha! 8)
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It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Eating bad ass? :blink:

And you are what you eat, therefore Inky Noodles is bad ass.


Then why is it when I have a 12-inch sandwich......er never mind.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:35 pm

Arkinesia wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote: If that is true then that's all well and good.

But that doesn't excuse the fact that Dan Cathy, the Chief Operations Officer of Chick-fil-A and the son of the company founder has confirmed that he has donated to hate groups masquerading under the banners of religion and "family values" and has implicated that the franchise as a whole supports these groups efforts.

So therin lies the rub. LGBT people are good enough to work for Chick-fil-A, but the company would rather they didn't have the same fundamental rights as the rest of us.

Chick-fil-A publicly announced in 2011 they would stop donating to anti-gay groups.

That article does nothing to claim they donated to anti-gay groups after that time.
Nope, Dan Cathy was quoted that he did donate as such. The article provides links to the baptist media sites where the interview is posted.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:37 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:I don't think "hey, they don't agree with me!" when i'm at Chick-fil-a.
I simply eat, because chicken is bad ass.

I normally agree, chicken is delicious. Which makes me wonder how Chick-fil-a managed to screw it up so badly so that your sentence has a punctuation error: "[Their] chicken is bad, [tastes like] ass."
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:38 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:Chick-fil-A publicly announced in 2011 they would stop donating to anti-gay groups.

That article does nothing to claim they donated to anti-gay groups after that time.
Nope, Dan Cathy was quoted that he did donate as such. The article provides links to the baptist media sites where the interview is posted.

The HuffPo article states that CFA donated $2m to anti-gay groups in 2010 and the quote was simply an admission of past donations, with no actual indication as to when such donations had occurred.

Unless you can prove with sources that CFA donated to explicitly anti-gay causes after February 2011 you have no case.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:39 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Genivaria wrote:And you are what you eat, therefore Inky Noodles is bad ass.

You betcha! 8)

Now come here and give me a Christian side-hug. :p

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:41 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:I don't think "hey, they don't agree with me!" when i'm at Chick-fil-a.
I simply eat, because chicken is bad ass.


Eating bad ass? :blink:

I prefer thighs and drumsticks myself.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:55 pm

So the VP of PR for Chick-fil-A dies of a heart attack.

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/07/don-pe ... ttack.html

Donald A. Perry, the Vice President of Corporate Public Relations for Chick-fil-A, has died.

WRBL reports:

Ross Cathy, the owner of the Midland, GA Chick-fil-A and family member of company CEO, Dan Cathy, tells News 3, Perry passed away this morning from a heart attack.

Chick-fil-A released a statement:

We are saddened to report the news to you that our dear friend Don Perry, vice president of public relations, passed away suddenly this morning.

Don was a member of our Chick-fil-A family for nearly 29 years. For many of you in the media, he was the spokesperson for Chick-fil-A. He was a well-respected and well-liked media executive in the Atlanta and University of Georgia communities, and we will all miss him.

Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.


Not the best timing really....
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Postby Inky Noodles » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:56 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:You betcha! 8)

Now come here and give me a Christian side-hug. :p

:hug:
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Even the females.

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It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:56 pm

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:So the VP of PR for Chick-fil-A dies of a heart attack.

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/07/don-pe ... ttack.html

Donald A. Perry, the Vice President of Corporate Public Relations for Chick-fil-A, has died.

WRBL reports:

Ross Cathy, the owner of the Midland, GA Chick-fil-A and family member of company CEO, Dan Cathy, tells News 3, Perry passed away this morning from a heart attack.

Chick-fil-A released a statement:

We are saddened to report the news to you that our dear friend Don Perry, vice president of public relations, passed away suddenly this morning.

Don was a member of our Chick-fil-A family for nearly 29 years. For many of you in the media, he was the spokesperson for Chick-fil-A. He was a well-respected and well-liked media executive in the Atlanta and University of Georgia communities, and we will all miss him.

Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.


Not the best timing really....

Well, despite action movie and Klingon bravado, there's never really a good time to die. That's unfortunate.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:56 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Eating bad ass? :blink:

I prefer thighs and drumsticks myself.

All I see on TV is vegan propaganda...
Transnapastain wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:QUICK.

I WANNA ASK SOMEONE TO HOMECOMING.


whaddo I do?!


So I just met you
and this is crazy
but heres my number
homecoming maybe?

*not a valid offer.

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Veceria wrote:People with big noses have big penises.
Even the females.

Especially the females. *nod*


Hurdegaryp wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:01 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I prefer thighs and drumsticks myself.

All I see on TV is vegan propaganda...

Get a new TV
*nods*
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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:01 pm

Arkinesia wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Nope, Dan Cathy was quoted that he did donate as such. The article provides links to the baptist media sites where the interview is posted.

The HuffPo article states that CFA donated $2m to anti-gay groups in 2010 and the quote was simply an admission of past donations, with no actual indication as to when such donations had occurred.

Unless you can prove with sources that CFA donated to explicitly anti-gay causes after February 2011 you have no case.
Just because they haven't admitted to it doesn't mean they haven't stopped. They got called out for it once so what kind of idiot would keep donating and talking about it after the shitstorm that it created?

Now maybe if the FRC would be so kind as to release their financial records, they are 501(c) after all.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:23 pm

Twitter is a buzz about the failure of a boycott. One comment made me laugh:
"Having some bigot burgers and haterade. Delicious, really. (at Chick-fil-A)"

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:47 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Genivaria wrote:And you are what you eat, therefore Inky Noodles is bad ass.

You betcha! 8)

And just like that Inky Noodles was Sarah Paliin.

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Postby Jari Head » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:47 pm

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:So the VP of PR for Chick-fil-A dies of a heart attack.

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/07/don-pe ... ttack.html

Donald A. Perry, the Vice President of Corporate Public Relations for Chick-fil-A, has died.

WRBL reports:

Ross Cathy, the owner of the Midland, GA Chick-fil-A and family member of company CEO, Dan Cathy, tells News 3, Perry passed away this morning from a heart attack.

Chick-fil-A released a statement:

We are saddened to report the news to you that our dear friend Don Perry, vice president of public relations, passed away suddenly this morning.

Don was a member of our Chick-fil-A family for nearly 29 years. For many of you in the media, he was the spokesperson for Chick-fil-A. He was a well-respected and well-liked media executive in the Atlanta and University of Georgia communities, and we will all miss him.

Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.


Not the best timing really....

Hmm, He was in charge of PR for the entire company, PR VP's are usually seen as the 'company voice' and public company statements usually come from his office and if someone screws up, it's his office that gets to do 'damage control'. But what do you do when the one that signs your check and runs the company is the one that screwed up and said things that generated so much negative PR? Even if it is true, such statements shouldn't have been made in such a public forum.
You think the stress over how to 'fix' that mess is what caused the heartattack?
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