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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:06 am

Kannap wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Biden should hire that many teams of lawyers, two to a district at least, more in districts that might be up to more shenanigans.


Might as well just hire every single lawyer in the world. Maybe even pick up some law school students.

Start running some AI lawyer-bots as well.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:14 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:All these Neocons endorsing Biden rubs me the wrong way


Um, he mentioned Reagan. All the others were himself.

Anyone who says Reagan is my hero is a neocon. And he’s not the only Neocon endorsing Biden as you have W himself, the Cheney’s, Colin Powell, and hundreds of Bush officials all endorsing Biden.

I get that neocons are anti-Trump and all but it just rubs me the wrong way
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:26 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Um, he mentioned Reagan. All the others were himself.

Anyone who says Reagan is my hero is a neocon. And he’s not the only Neocon endorsing Biden as you have W himself, the Cheney’s, Colin Powell, and hundreds of Bush officials all endorsing Biden.

I get that neocons are anti-Trump and all but it just rubs me the wrong way


I’ve always believed in the Republican ideals and greatness of America:as an anti-Communist from “Solidarność”, Polish Prime Minister and as EU President. And I got to know @realDonaldTrump really well. These are the reasons why I pray for @JoeBiden’s success.


I have edited four words out of Tusk's tweet.

The way Tusk avoids directly endorsing Biden is quite masterful. Go via God. No American would dare dispute his religious beliefs right?

"I know him well" and then "vote the other guy" it's like Shakespeare. :lol:
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:35 am

Cisairse wrote:Democratic ad makers think they’ve discovered Trump’s soft spot

Pretty good overview of the current campaign strategies among Biden himself and the major pro-Biden pacs.


And it's working across all age groups.

In yesterdays Monmouth poll which showed Biden leading 53-41 we had a breakdown of support by age group. It's astounding.

Age
18-34 Trump 35% Biden 54%
35-49 Trump 40% Biden 54%
50-64 Trump 44% Biden 49%
65+ Trump 38% Biden 59%

Trump is losing all age groups. He is behind in double digits in three of the four age groups which includes a 20 point deficit among those aged 65+ the most reliable voters of all. These are crash and burn numbers for the Trump campaign.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:36 am

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:39 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Democratic ad makers think they’ve discovered Trump’s soft spot

Pretty good overview of the current campaign strategies among Biden himself and the major pro-Biden pacs.


And it's working across all age groups.

In yesterdays Monmouth poll which showed Biden leading 53-41 we had a breakdown of support by age group. It's astounding.

Age
18-34 Trump 35% Biden 54%
35-49 Trump 40% Biden 54%
50-64 Trump 44% Biden 49%
65+ Trump 38% Biden 59%

Trump is losing all age groups. He is behind in double digits in three of the four age groups which includes a 20 point deficit among those aged 65+ the most reliable voters of all. These are crash and burn numbers for the Trump campaign.

Florida is gone with those numbers. Hell CNN put out a piece where they interviewed several lifelong republicans who have said they will be voting democrat for the first time in their lives. These are all people who are over 65
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Anyone who says Reagan is my hero is a neocon. And he’s not the only Neocon endorsing Biden as you have W himself, the Cheney’s, Colin Powell, and hundreds of Bush officials all endorsing Biden.

I get that neocons are anti-Trump and all but it just rubs me the wrong way


I’ve always believed in the Republican ideals and greatness of America:as an anti-Communist from “Solidarność”, Polish Prime Minister and as EU President. And I got to know @realDonaldTrump really well. These are the reasons why I pray for @JoeBiden’s success.


I have edited four words out of Tusk's tweet.

The way Tusk avoids directly endorsing Biden is quite masterful. Go via God. No American would dare dispute his religious beliefs right?

"I know him well" and then "vote the other guy" it's like Shakespeare. :lol:

I think you mistake my Uncomfortability with neocons endorsing Biden with me not wanting to vote for Biden because of the neocons.

Which couldnt be farther from the truth. I’m still voting Biden no matter what but these endorsements rub me the wrong way
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
And it's working across all age groups.

In yesterdays Monmouth poll which showed Biden leading 53-41 we had a breakdown of support by age group. It's astounding.

Age
18-34 Trump 35% Biden 54%
35-49 Trump 40% Biden 54%
50-64 Trump 44% Biden 49%
65+ Trump 38% Biden 59%

Trump is losing all age groups. He is behind in double digits in three of the four age groups which includes a 20 point deficit among those aged 65+ the most reliable voters of all. These are crash and burn numbers for the Trump campaign.

Florida is gone with those numbers. Hell CNN put out a piece where they interviewed several lifelong republicans who have said they will be voting democrat for the first time in their lives. These are all people who are over 65


Yep he's really screwed himself. All those commercials attacking Biden's mental capacity have severely backfired. And without Florida Trump can not find a realistic path in the electoral college for reelection victory.

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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:49 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Um, he mentioned Reagan. All the others were himself.

Anyone who says Reagan is my hero is a neocon. And he’s not the only Neocon endorsing Biden as you have W himself, the Cheney’s, Colin Powell, and hundreds of Bush officials all endorsing Biden.

I get that neocons are anti-Trump and all but it just rubs me the wrong way


Bush and Cheney certainly did not endorse Biden: only Powell and former Bush Officials did have publicly stated their intentions to back Biden. However, if Bush did come out to endorse Biden, it certainly would cause a few Republicans to back Biden but I highly doubt he'll come out with an endorsement.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:52 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Anyone who says Reagan is my hero is a neocon. And he’s not the only Neocon endorsing Biden as you have W himself, the Cheney’s, Colin Powell, and hundreds of Bush officials all endorsing Biden.

I get that neocons are anti-Trump and all but it just rubs me the wrong way


Bush and Cheney certainly did not endorse Biden: only Powell and former Bush Officials did have publicly stated their intentions to back Biden. However, if Bush did come out to endorse Biden, it certainly would cause a few Republicans to back Biden but I highly doubt he'll come out with an endorsement.


The day that hard-ass Cheney endorses Biden is the day the US becomes a one-party state.

Bush the Younger is still a chance though. :)
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:53 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Anyone who says Reagan is my hero is a neocon. And he’s not the only Neocon endorsing Biden as you have W himself, the Cheney’s, Colin Powell, and hundreds of Bush officials all endorsing Biden.

I get that neocons are anti-Trump and all but it just rubs me the wrong way


Bush and Cheney certainly did not endorse Biden: only Powell and former Bush Officials did have publicly stated their intentions to back Biden. However, if Bush did come out to endorse Biden, it certainly would cause a few Republicans to back Biden but I highly doubt he'll come out with an endorsement.

I thought that they said they where voting for Biden. Which I took as a endorsement
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:53 am

Mississippi election commissioner's social media comment about Black voters causes uproar

A social media comment with racial undertones made by a Mississippi election commissioner sparked outrage across the state on the same weekend state legislators voted to retire the flag and its Confederate emblem.

"I'm concerned about voter registration in Mississippi," the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too."

Gail Welch's comment caused an uproar Sunday, as screen shots of the comment spread quickly on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Welch said she has received calls and messages from all over the country about the post.


So they're not even trying to hide it any more. Literally complaining that too many black people are registering to vote.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:56 am

Previous prediction: Zurk 270 Map from 6/16/2020.

Alright, here's mine 270 Map as of 7/3/2020:

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Battleground Map:

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Some slight changes but overall, still the same outcome.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:56 am

Vassenor wrote:Mississippi election commissioner's social media comment about Black voters causes uproar

A social media comment with racial undertones made by a Mississippi election commissioner sparked outrage across the state on the same weekend state legislators voted to retire the flag and its Confederate emblem.

"I'm concerned about voter registration in Mississippi," the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too."

Gail Welch's comment caused an uproar Sunday, as screen shots of the comment spread quickly on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Welch said she has received calls and messages from all over the country about the post.


So they're not even trying to hide it any more. Literally complaining that too many black people are registering to vote.

Mississippi is the only state that never “hid it”. They had their own secret police from the 60s to the 80s. Mississippi is that state that was quite open about its racism
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:58 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Bush and Cheney certainly did not endorse Biden: only Powell and former Bush Officials did have publicly stated their intentions to back Biden. However, if Bush did come out to endorse Biden, it certainly would cause a few Republicans to back Biden but I highly doubt he'll come out with an endorsement.

I thought that they said they where voting for Biden. Which I took as a endorsement


I'm pretty sure Bush Jr. and Cheney did not endorse Biden, at least, not publicly. If it ain't on this yuge list of endorsements, then I doubt they did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_J ... dorsements
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:58 am

Zurkerx wrote:Previous prediction: Zurk 270 Map from 6/16/2020.

Alright, here's mine 270 Map as of 7/3/2020:



Battleground Map:



Some slight changes but overall, still the same outcome.

The fact that georgia is a battleground swing state should be sending alarm bells through the GOP
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:00 am

Vassenor wrote:Mississippi election commissioner's social media comment about Black voters causes uproar

A social media comment with racial undertones made by a Mississippi election commissioner sparked outrage across the state on the same weekend state legislators voted to retire the flag and its Confederate emblem.

"I'm concerned about voter registration in Mississippi," the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too."

Gail Welch's comment caused an uproar Sunday, as screen shots of the comment spread quickly on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Welch said she has received calls and messages from all over the country about the post.


So they're not even trying to hide it any more. Literally complaining that too many black people are registering to vote.


This election commissioner is elected, right?

And you're surprised the election commissioner is making partisan statements, why?
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:03 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Previous prediction: Zurk 270 Map from 6/16/2020.

Alright, here's mine 270 Map as of 7/3/2020:



Battleground Map:



Some slight changes but overall, still the same outcome.

The fact that georgia is a battleground swing state should be sending alarm bells through the GOP


It certainly should concern them: Georgia's changing demographics, and their now poor handling of the Coronavirus, puts the State up for grabs.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:05 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Mississippi election commissioner's social media comment about Black voters causes uproar



So they're not even trying to hide it any more. Literally complaining that too many black people are registering to vote.


This election commissioner is elected, right?

And you're surprised the election commissioner is making partisan statements, why?


So I'm not allowed to have problems with an election commissioner saying that too many members of a given demographic are exercising their right to vote?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:07 am

Vassenor wrote:Mississippi election commissioner's social media comment about Black voters causes uproar

A social media comment with racial undertones made by a Mississippi election commissioner sparked outrage across the state on the same weekend state legislators voted to retire the flag and its Confederate emblem.

"I'm concerned about voter registration in Mississippi," the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too."

Gail Welch's comment caused an uproar Sunday, as screen shots of the comment spread quickly on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Welch said she has received calls and messages from all over the country about the post.


So they're not even trying to hide it any more. Literally complaining that too many black people are registering to vote.

Not in the slightest they feel emboldened to say such bile because they think it will motivate their base to vote

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:10 am

Vassenor wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
This election commissioner is elected, right?

And you're surprised the election commissioner is making partisan statements, why?


So I'm not allowed to have problems with an election commissioner saying that too many members of a given demographic are exercising their right to vote?


You're allowed to have a problem with electing officials to oversee elections. That's the most retarded idea ever.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:13 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So I'm not allowed to have problems with an election commissioner saying that too many members of a given demographic are exercising their right to vote?


You're allowed to have a problem with electing officials to oversee elections. That's the most retarded idea ever.

It is dumb. Elections should not be partisan. It’s the same thing as electing judges. They should be appointed not elected

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:22 am

Bear Stearns wrote:Uh...so Biden just hired 600 lawyers to be on stand-by ready to litigate in case he loses the election.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/biden-pulls-together-hundreds-of-lawyers-as-a-bulwark-against-election-trickery-idUSKBN24305H

Basically admitting we're on the path to civil war.

And ensuring that the GOP doesn't tinker with the election process to steal the election puts us on a path to civil war because.... ?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:44 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Mississippi election commissioner's social media comment about Black voters causes uproar



So they're not even trying to hide it any more. Literally complaining that too many black people are registering to vote.

Mississippi is the only state that never “hid it”. They had their own secret police from the 60s to the 80s. Mississippi is that state that was quite open about its racism


Funny you bring that up as last night I watched a documentary on MS concerning their Soverign Commission. I think this is what you're alluding to and it was horrifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LqoVWUQqfI
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Mississippi election commissioner's social media comment about Black voters causes uproar



So they're not even trying to hide it any more. Literally complaining that too many black people are registering to vote.

Not in the slightest they feel emboldened to say such bile because they think it will motivate their base to vote

Now it's just saying the quiet part out loud for the MS GOP. They have done that stuff for quite a while.
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