Genres You Can't Stand

[Zirconim]

Rap, new country, rock bands that substitute screaming and angst for talent, leftist "folk" music (How can it be folk music if it is only listened to by college kids and written by dropouts?) Black(By which I mean that Satanic garbage) metal, weed rock.

I'm just curious, but since when did the amount of talent required to play something affect the way it sounded? You don't have to be "talented" at your instrument to write and play a good song, case in point, the No Wave movement. Second, the word you're looking for is skill. Talent is innate, skill is developed through time. It takes skill to play something, not talent.

Not all Black Metal is Satanic. I'd actually wager that a large amount (40+%) isn't. Most Black Metal is anti-Christian. Also most Black Metal musicians favor Pagan religions and use those as basis for justification of the church burnings, not Satan.

Leftist Folk music? You mean Bright Eyes? That's really the only relevant Folk band I can think of as being far-left. Also, genres aren't determined by who listens to the music, but by the way it sounds. Folk has always been stripped-down music that focuses around a vocalist and a guitar with an emphasis on lyrics. I don't understand

Don't understand the beef with "Weed Rock" (I assume you mean Stoner Rock).

For once I have to agree with you...exept the part about the good No Wave song...

[Vingtor]

Rap, new country, rock bands that substitute screaming and angst for talent, leftist "folk" music (How can it be folk music if it is only listened to by college kids and written by dropouts?) Black(By which I mean that Satanic garbage) metal, weed rock.

I'm just curious, but since when did the amount of talent required to play something affect the way it sounded? You don't have to be "talented" at your instrument to write and play a good song, case in point, the No Wave movement. Second, the word you're looking for is skill. Talent is innate, skill is developed through time. It takes skill to play something, not talent.

Not all Black Metal is Satanic. I'd actually wager that a large amount (40+%) isn't. Most Black Metal is anti-Christian. Also most Black Metal musicians favor Pagan religions and use those as basis for justification of the church burnings, not Satan.

Leftist Folk music? You mean Bright Eyes? That's really the only relevant Folk band I can think of as being far-left. Also, genres aren't determined by who listens to the music, but by the way it sounds. Folk has always been stripped-down music that focuses around a vocalist and a guitar with an emphasis on lyrics. I don't understand

Don't understand the beef with "Weed Rock" (I assume you mean Stoner Rock).

Just looked up the no wave movement, how do you sit through that?

Skill, talent, whatever makes a good song My chemical romance and Insane clown posse don't have it.

Satanic rock exists to make stiff collar christians angry. That all it does and I find it to be insulting. Now Pagan music may do the same thing but it is more then a "black is white, up is down" type of pandering.

You forgot Third Ear Band, Comus, Spirogyra, John Denver, and so forth. Maybe so but they need to create a new term describe that garbage I just mentioned.

Stoner, weed, same thing. Hendrix, those grunge idiots, Pink Floyd. Stupid pointless music.

[Zirconim]

Satanic rock exists to make stiff collar christians angry. That all it does and I find it to be insulting.

I'm not a Satanist, Pagan, Anti-Christian, or any of that shit. I still find it to be quite insulting that religious people can use religion as an excuse to denounce a genre that they don't like. It doesn't justify the messages of Church burnings and stuff in Black Metal, but a simple "fuck you" will suffice in a nice song about crazed Christians or anybody who think that religion and music have anything to do with each other. They don't.

Stoner, weed, same thing. Hendrix, those grunge idiots, Pink Floyd. Stupid pointless music.

How do you not like Hendrix? Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Mudhoney, all those guys? PINK FLOYD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? What the hell do you like, then???

Also, none of those are Stoner Metal. Stoner Metal is a form of dirty Rock and Metal music who uses heavy distortion and often have open ties to drugs, or have a "stoner" fanbase. Much of it emerged from the early 90's, late 80's Palm Desert Scene, with bands like Kyuss. If you think Pink Floyd and Hendrix are "too stoner-y", I think you'd die listening to Kyuss or any real Stoner Rock/Metal.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Sometimes you need to accept some people are too ignorant to waste your time discussing music with.

[Zirconim]

Sometimes you need to accept some people are too ignorant to waste your time discussing music with.

Eh, I'm actually kind of intrigued as to what the hell he does like. I doubt it's Classical, because Classical fans usually know a thing or two about music. But he kind of eliminated every other possibility.

EDIT: I wonder how he'd cope with your stuff? Post-Rock, Death Metal, Grindcore?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Sometimes you need to accept some people are too ignorant to waste your time discussing music with.

Eh, I'm actually kind of intrigued as to what the hell he does like. I doubt it's Classical, because Classical fans usually know a thing or two about music. But he kind of eliminated every other possibility.

EDIT: I wonder how he'd cope with your stuff? Post-Rock, Death Metal, Grindcore?

I think he mentioned Amon Amarth, but then again has dismissed other death metal bands. I'm assuming mall metal and pableum rock, but I've been known to make incorrect assumptions before.

[Zirconim]

Eh, I'm actually kind of intrigued as to what the hell he does like. I doubt it's Classical, because Classical fans usually know a thing or two about music. But he kind of eliminated every other possibility.

EDIT: I wonder how he'd cope with your stuff? Post-Rock, Death Metal, Grindcore?

I think he mentioned Amon Amarth, but then again has dismissed other death metal bands. I'm assuming mall metal and pableum rock, but I've been known to make incorrect assumptions before.

As I've seen you describe Mall Metal, since he noted screaming and growling as a no-no, I don't think that's it. What is Pableum Rock???

[Vingtor]

Satanic rock exists to make stiff collar christians angry. That all it does and I find it to be insulting.

I'm not a Satanist, Pagan, Anti-Christian, or any of that shit. I still find it to be quite insulting that religious people can use religion as an excuse to denounce a genre that they don't like. It doesn't justify the messages of Church burnings and stuff in Black Metal, but a simple "fuck you" will suffice in a nice song about crazed Christians or anybody who think that religion and music have anything to do with each other. They don't.

Stoner, weed, same thing. Hendrix, those grunge idiots, Pink Floyd. Stupid pointless music.

How do you not like Hendrix? Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Mudhoney, all those guys? PINK FLOYD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? What the hell do you like, then???

Also, none of those are Stoner Metal. Stoner Metal is a form of dirty Rock and Metal music who uses heavy distortion and often have open ties to drugs, or have a "stoner" fanbase. Much of it emerged from the early 90's, late 80's Palm Desert Scene, with bands like Kyuss. If you think Pink Floyd and Hendrix are "too stoner-y", I think you'd die listening to Kyuss or any real Stoner Rock/Metal.

I'm not religious and still find it insulting.

To answer your question I like classical, old country, bluegrass, actual folk music, Jazz, both regular and smooth, Amon Amarth, Disturbed, 3 doors down.

Wow, I didn't know there was level beneath grunge and pop in blantent stupidity. Thank you for the information.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I think he mentioned Amon Amarth, but then again has dismissed other death metal bands. I'm assuming mall metal and pableum rock, but I've been known to make incorrect assumptions before.

As I've seen you describe Mall Metal, since he noted screaming and growling as a no-no, I don't think that's it. What is Pableum Rock???

Rock as bland and generic and lacking in substance as pableum. Puddle of 3 Doors Back.

[The REAL Glasers]

For once I have to agree with you...exept the part about the good No Wave song...

Noisy, abrasive music is my thing, definitely not for everyone though, I will admit.

I'm just curious, but since when did the amount of talent required to play something affect the way it sounded? You don't have to be "talented" at your instrument to write and play a good song, case in point, the No Wave movement. Second, the word you're looking for is skill. Talent is innate, skill is developed through time. It takes skill to play something, not talent.

Not all Black Metal is Satanic. I'd actually wager that a large amount (40+%) isn't. Most Black Metal is anti-Christian. Also most Black Metal musicians favor Pagan religions and use those as basis for justification of the church burnings, not Satan.

Leftist Folk music? You mean Bright Eyes? That's really the only relevant Folk band I can think of as being far-left. Also, genres aren't determined by who listens to the music, but by the way it sounds. Folk has always been stripped-down music that focuses around a vocalist and a guitar with an emphasis on lyrics. I don't understand

Don't understand the beef with "Weed Rock" (I assume you mean Stoner Rock).

Just looked up the no wave movement, how do you sit through that?

Skill, talent, whatever makes a good song My chemical romance and Insane clown posse don't have it.

Satanic rock exists to make stiff collar christians angry. That all it does and I find it to be insulting. Now Pagan music may do the same thing but it is more then a "black is white, up is down" type of pandering.

You forgot Third Ear Band, Comus, Spirogyra, John Denver, and so forth. Maybe so but they need to create a new term describe that garbage I just mentioned.

Stoner, weed, same thing. Hendrix, those grunge idiots, Pink Floyd. Stupid pointless music.

Because I like Noise music? It creates an atmosphere that's appealing to me. Or maybe because I've removed any pretensions I've had about what qualifies as music or that good music requires great musicians.

Nice strawman, now if you could actually pay attention you'd see that Black Metal isn't Satanic. Most Black Metal bands don't participate in church burnings, and I'm not sure even endorse them. The days of ridiculous corpse paint are fading away.

Those were all Prog Rock bands that used Folk elements in their music or Psychedelic Folk bands, something far different than what you described and a sound that doesn't even exist today and never even really took off for the most part. John Denver doesn't even fit into that group of musicians, so nice try.

How so? Hendrix had many songs that served as anthems for the Vietnam generation. The Grunge movement provided a soundtrack for the teenagers and young adults of the 90s that were looking for something genuine after experiencing 80s Pop and Hair Metal. Pink Floyd made numerous political statement and were absolutely monumental in Rock music, hardly pointless. Also, none of those bands can even be grouped together.

[Vingtor]

Sometimes you need to accept some people are too ignorant to waste your time discussing music with.

Eh, I'm actually kind of intrigued as to what the hell he does like. I doubt it's Classical, because Classical fans usually know a thing or two about music. But he kind of eliminated every other possibility.

EDIT: I wonder how he'd cope with your stuff? Post-Rock, Death Metal, Grindcore?

I'll gladly tell you

Post rock: More Accurately know as Frankenstein's version of Jerry Garica.

Death Metal: Blatent pandering to the "brave" "rebel" leftist punks.

Grindcore: Alright, thou I won't really be buying it or listening much.

[Zirconim]

I'm not a Satanist, Pagan, Anti-Christian, or any of that shit. I still find it to be quite insulting that religious people can use religion as an excuse to denounce a genre that they don't like. It doesn't justify the messages of Church burnings and stuff in Black Metal, but a simple "fuck you" will suffice in a nice song about crazed Christians or anybody who think that religion and music have anything to do with each other. They don't.

How do you not like Hendrix? Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Mudhoney, all those guys? PINK FLOYD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? What the hell do you like, then???

Also, none of those are Stoner Metal. Stoner Metal is a form of dirty Rock and Metal music who uses heavy distortion and often have open ties to drugs, or have a "stoner" fanbase. Much of it emerged from the early 90's, late 80's Palm Desert Scene, with bands like Kyuss. If you think Pink Floyd and Hendrix are "too stoner-y", I think you'd die listening to Kyuss or any real Stoner Rock/Metal.

I'm not religious and still find it insulting.

To answer your question I like classical, old country, bluegrass, actual folk music, Jazz, both regular and smooth, Amon Amarth, Disturbed, 3 doors down.

Wow, I didn't know there was level beneath grunge and pop in blantent stupidity. Thank you for the information.

Well you are so welcome. By the way, you should probably know that 3 Doors Down is second wave Post-Grunge, and takes serious Grunge influence.

[Zirconim]

Eh, I'm actually kind of intrigued as to what the hell he does like. I doubt it's Classical, because Classical fans usually know a thing or two about music. But he kind of eliminated every other possibility.

EDIT: I wonder how he'd cope with your stuff? Post-Rock, Death Metal, Grindcore?

I'll gladly tell you

Post rock: More Accurately know as Frankenstein's version of Jerry Garica.

Death Metal: Blatent pandering to the "brave" "rebel" leftist punks.

Grindcore: Alright, thou I won't really be buying it or listening much.

I don't get if you're saying Post-Rock is good or bad...your idea of Death Metal is sad...they don't try to be "brave" or leftist, nor are they punks. I guess "rebel" could work there. I wonder if you're getting it confused with some form of Hardcore Punk...

[The Rubble Belt]

Lovey Dovey vampires

[The Mascarene Group]

Pop
Disney Musical
Dubstep
Rebecca Black (apparently she's 13??)

[Zirconim]

I'm just curious, but since when did the amount of talent required to play something affect the way it sounded? You don't have to be "talented" at your instrument to write and play a good song, case in point, the No Wave movement. Second, the word you're looking for is skill. Talent is innate, skill is developed through time. It takes skill to play something, not talent.

Not all Black Metal is Satanic. I'd actually wager that a large amount (40+%) isn't. Most Black Metal is anti-Christian. Also most Black Metal musicians favor Pagan religions and use those as basis for justification of the church burnings, not Satan.

Leftist Folk music? You mean Bright Eyes? That's really the only relevant Folk band I can think of as being far-left. Also, genres aren't determined by who listens to the music, but by the way it sounds. Folk has always been stripped-down music that focuses around a vocalist and a guitar with an emphasis on lyrics. I don't understand

Don't understand the beef with "Weed Rock" (I assume you mean Stoner Rock).

Just looked up the no wave movement, how do you sit through that?

Skill, talent, whatever makes a good song My chemical romance and Insane clown posse don't have it.

Satanic rock exists to make stiff collar christians angry. That all it does and I find it to be insulting. Now Pagan music may do the same thing but it is more then a "black is white, up is down" type of pandering.

You forgot Third Ear Band, Comus, Spirogyra, John Denver, and so forth. Maybe so but they need to create a new term describe that garbage I just mentioned.

Stoner, weed, same thing. Hendrix, those grunge idiots, Pink Floyd. Stupid pointless music.

Because I like Noise music? It creates an atmosphere that's appealing to me. Or maybe because I've removed any pretensions I've had about what qualifies as music or that good music requires great musicians.

Nice strawman, now if you could actually pay attention you'd see that Black Metal isn't Satanic. Most Black Metal bands don't participate in church burnings, and I'm not sure even endorse them. The days of ridiculous corpse paint are fading away.

Those were all Prog Rock bands that used Folk elements in their music or Psychedelic Folk bands, something far different than what you described and a sound that doesn't even exist today and never even really took off for the most part. John Denver doesn't even fit into that group of musicians, so nice try.

How so? Hendrix had many songs that served as anthems for the Vietnam generation. The Grunge movement provided a soundtrack for the teenagers and young adults of the 90s that were looking for something genuine after experiencing 80s Pop and Hair Metal. Pink Floyd made numerous political statement and were absolutely monumental in Rock music, hardly pointless. Also, none of those bands can even be grouped together.[/quote]
Damn, again, I find myself agreeing with you. Anyways, I actually do enjoy some Noise Rock. Just certain kinds.

[Zirconim]

Lovey Dovey vampires

I can't stand it but my brother loves the damn series.

What are you talking about...?

[The REAL Glasers]

Eh, I'm actually kind of intrigued as to what the hell he does like. I doubt it's Classical, because Classical fans usually know a thing or two about music. But he kind of eliminated every other possibility.

EDIT: I wonder how he'd cope with your stuff? Post-Rock, Death Metal, Grindcore?

I'll gladly tell you

Post rock: More Accurately know as Frankenstein's version of Jerry Garica.

Death Metal: Blatent pandering to the "brave" "rebel" leftist punks.

Grindcore: Alright, thou I won't really be buying it or listening much.

I love how some of your opinion of music has absolutely nothing to do with music.

How does Death Metal "blatantly pander to leftists"? A lot of Death Metal isn't really political at all, and I really have difficulty naming any Death Metal musicians that identify as leftists.

I'm loving the ignorance here.

[Vingtor]

Because I like Noise music? It creates an atmosphere that's appealing to me. Or maybe because I've removed any pretensions I've had about what qualifies as music or that good music requires great musicians.

Maybe, but you have to admit that is a little esoteric for most.

Nice strawman, now if you could actually pay attention you'd see that Black Metal isn't Satanic. Most Black Metal bands don't participate in church burnings, and I'm not sure even endorse them. The days of ridiculous corpse paint are fading away.

Not my point. My point is that it exists to gratify the self-image of the "rebel".

Those were all Prog Rock bands that used Folk elements in their music or Psychedelic Folk bands, something far different than what you described and a sound that doesn't even exist today and never even really took off for the most part. John Denver doesn't even fit into that group of musicians, so nice try.

I still hate them. It doesn't matter if they robbed folk music of it's dignity in a alleyway somewhere, they still suck.

How so? Hendrix had many songs that served as anthems for the Vietnam generation. The Grunge movement provided a soundtrack for the teenagers and young adults of the 90s that were looking for something genuine after experiencing 80s Pop and Hair Metal. Pink Floyd made numerous political statement and were absolutely monumental in Rock music, hardly pointless. Also, none of those bands can even be grouped together.

Because they reinforce the notion that being a whinny brat who trolls Republicians and other examples of "The Man" is somehow helping solve real problems. I group them together because they all serve the purpose, make Mommy and Daddy angry and promote casual drug use.

[Vingtor]

Well you are so welcome. By the way, you should probably know that 3 Doors Down is second wave Post-Grunge, and takes serious Grunge influence.

Well, that is intresting. How is that they can get their act together and most of their colleagues can't?

[The REAL Glasers]

Damn, again, I find myself agreeing with you. Anyways, I actually do enjoy some Noise Rock. Just certain kinds.

Some is better than none . As long as you like Sonic Youth, we can be buds.

It has its moments, it can be one of my favorite genres, but generally only when it's based in Alternative Rock, or just really awesome like Lightning Bolt. I have a hard time with the really out there stuff like Harsh Noise because it's really, really unsettling for me and doesn't help with my paranoia. But I can appreciate it because it has that effect on me.

[Vingtor]

I love how some of your opinion of music has absolutely nothing to do with music.

How does Death Metal "blatantly pander to leftists"? A lot of Death Metal isn't really political at all, and I really have difficulty naming any Death Metal musicians that identify as leftists.

I'm loving the ignorance here.

I don't know, all the "die Christians die" song titles i pulled up when I looked it up on youtube.

Music touches on facets of life so i judge it by that context.

[Zirconim]

Because they reinforce the notion that being a whinny brat who trolls Republicians and other examples of "The Man" is somehow helping solve real problems. I group them together because they all serve the purpose, make Mommy and Daddy angry and promote casual drug use.

Never use Internet term like "troll" when talking about music, m'kay? I see that you don't seem to care at all about music, rather more about what the music stands for. Well here's what the music stands for:
Hendrix, Floyd, ect: People were dying over in Vietnam for no reason, just because the people in office didn't like Communism. Hell, I'm as far from Commie as you can get, and I'll stand up against that. So they did. Sure, they may have made some drug-induced music, but it's not what they stood for entirely.
Grunge: People were tired of the flashy asthetic of '80s Pop and Glam Metal, so they decided to make the music scene more real and organic. The Grunge movement had nothing to do with drugs. Sure, due to Punk influences, bands like Nirvana got associated with Generation X's rebellion and stuff, but that's not at all what Grunge was about. It was simply denouncing all that fake, flashy stuff going on in the '80s.
Also, I'll say it yet again: the message, the content, the image, it doesn't really matter. Good music is good music.

[Zirconim]

Damn, again, I find myself agreeing with you. Anyways, I actually do enjoy some Noise Rock. Just certain kinds.

Some is better than none . As long as you like Sonic Youth, we can be buds.

It has its moments, it can be one of my favorite genres, but generally only when it's based in Alternative Rock, or just really awesome like Lightning Bolt. I have a hard time with the really out there stuff like Harsh Noise because it's really, really unsettling for me and doesn't help with my paranoia. But I can appreciate it because it has that effect on me.

I love Sonic Youth. Dude, I'm paranoid, too! Diagnosed or self-diagnosed?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Post rock: More Accurately know as Frankenstein's version of Jerry Garica.

Death Metal: Blatent pandering to the "brave" "rebel" leftist punks.

Grindcore: Alright, thou I won't really be buying it or listening much.

I'll pretend this is an attempt at humour, my soul can't bear the ache of this much ignorance all at once.