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Postby St George of England » Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:47 pm

Simple, who, in your opinion, is the most underrated author. I think it's Jasper Fforde. What follows is a brief (well, compared to the book) synopsis of his Book the Eyre Affair, which I hope will convince you.

Jasper Fforde's Thursday Next series. Germany wins WW2 but is expelled by the Yanks. Post occupation England (as the UK is broken up, with war with Socialist Wales a possibility), is filled with airships (as planes don't exist), re-engineered extinct species and something called spec-ops, a police force which specializes in things too focussed or weird for the regular force. Ranging from SO-30 (neighbourly disputes) down to SO-12 (the Chrono Guard, a time-travelling police force) and onto SO-1 who police the police. Anything from SO-20 down is classified, and Operatives are almost all ex-military (oh, crimea war is still going on) or ex-police, and all of them are insane. If you want to be in Spec-Ops, the saying goes, act kinda weird.

Our protaganist (the aforementioned Thursday Next) is in SO-27 Literary Crime. Based in London, she's a successful agent who is seconded to SO-13 (designation: Weird Stuff) and fluffs her lines, resulting in the death of two agents and her almost dying. She's saved by Edward Rochester, from the book Jane Eyre (which has a different ending here, Jane goes off to India), and then transfers to Swindon (her home town) and finds that the manuscript for Martin Chuzzlewhit (sp?) has been stolen by Achereon Hades, a criminal mastermind who doesn't appear on camera and is a master of human emotions. He demands ransom or he'll change the book using an invention created by Thursday's uncle, Mycroft, that let's one enter the world of fiction. Hurrying to stop him they find that he escapes across the border to Wales in an airship.

Mycroft burns the manuscript, stopping Hades from any major changes (beyond killing off a minor character) and Hades locks his wife into Wordsworth's I Wondered Lonely As A Cloud. Hurrying to Wales, Thursday finds herself going up against not only Hades, but the evil Golaith Corporation, who helped rebuild Britain and has a finger in every pie, so to speak. They want Mycroft's invention to make their plasma rifles (for use in the Crimean War) work. Thursday looks in trouble until her father appears. Once apart of the Chrono Guard, he went rogue to fight what he saw as corruption, resulting him in being eradicated (via a well placed knock on the door on the night of his conception). Despite this, he still exists and time stops when he's around. Hades (evil being that he) is unaffected and escapes into Jane Eyre. Thursday follows and the actino moves to the book.

The book ends with Hades dying thanks to being stabbed by Rochester's wife in the book, with silver scissors. He takes Bertha Rochester with him, and Thursday then works to make the narrative of the book what it is in RL. She succeeds and returns to the Real World. There, Brack Schitt tells Mycroft to put his book, about the aforementioned Plasma Rifles in the machine. But Bowden Cable, Thursday's partner has switched the sleaves of the book, and Schitt is trapped in a copy of The Raven.
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Postby North Wiedna » Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:54 pm

That Max Barry chap.
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Postby St George of England » Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:57 pm

North Wiedna wrote:That Max Barry chap.

*whispers*
Are they watchi-
*is grabbed from behind*
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Postby Stuffed Taxidermists » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:46 am

ahhh.. is Matthew Reilly underrated?
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Postby Sciox » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:55 am

Anyone read anything by Vince Flynn, his book's feature a CIA assasin by the name of Mitch Rapp and I can honestly say that they are among the bests books I have ever read.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:17 am

Huysmans, and Anderson and Cather for their 'rural realism.'

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Postby Alevuss » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:52 pm

Rob Thurman or Gary Blackwood in my opinion. Not sure if it's because they've written some of my favorite books or if it's because they really are underrated. Rob Thurman's book, Nightlife, is so far the best book I've ever read. It actually convinced me to start reading again after not reading anything but manga of my own accord for 2 years. As for Gary Blackwood, his book Second Sight was an amazing alternate history novel.

Seriously, though, these authors have 1-3 sentences on them when you see their wikipedia pages.
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Postby New East Ireland » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:08 pm

St George of England wrote:
North Wiedna wrote:That Max Barry chap.

*whispers*
Are they watchi-
*is grabbed from behind*

NO! NOT GEORGE!!
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:40 am

Ayn Rand.

Many people get turned off to her novels because of her politics, but she is skilled at plot and theme, and she is excellent at using contrast to make her points. There are rarely any dull moments in her stories. Every section and chapter have their climaxes.

This is not to say that Ayn Rand's novels are for everyone. They are very philosophical novels in the style of Romantic literature, and people looking for believable "organic" characters will probably be disappointed. Also, Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead are long "Russian" novels, and people with short attention spans will probably lack the patience.
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Postby Bavin » Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:42 am

North Wiedna wrote:That Max Barry chap.

^ this
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Postby Coletra » Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:44 am

Adolf Hitler. Mein Kumph was a good read.
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Postby North Suran » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:07 am

Meridiani Planum wrote:Ayn Rand.

Politics aside, she's just not that good a writer. Whenever I've read an Ayn Rand book, it's like reading a fairytale; the morality is all black-and-white, the hero and villain are clearly designated and there's always a heavy-handed moral in there somewhere. She should have been writing philosophical treatises, not fiction novels, because she tries to disguise the former as the latter and succeeds only in creating a novel which is too heavy to be read for pleasure and too dumbed down to be taken as a philosophical essay.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:32 am

Coletra wrote:Adolf Hitler. Mein Kumph was a good read.


Not really. It was dull, he consistently goes on one tirade to a completely different one, one after the other, a jump from A to F, if you will. Seems like the thoughts of a raving lunatic to be perfectly honest, oh wait... :roll:
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Postby New Oakden » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:18 am

St George of England wrote:
North Wiedna wrote:That Max Barry chap.

*whispers*
Are they watchi-
*is grabbed from behind*

-looks around suspiciously- :unsure: Yeah,let's go with that
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Postby Coletra » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:38 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Coletra wrote:Adolf Hitler. Mein Kumph was a good read.


Not really. It was dull, he consistently goes on one tirade to a completely different one, one after the other, a jump from A to F, if you will. Seems like the thoughts of a raving lunatic to be perfectly honest, oh wait... :roll:



That is what is so good about it. It's completely insane in every way, which makes me laugh, at least.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:27 am

Emily Bronte. Wuthering Heights is just the perfect revenge story.
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:36 am

North Suran wrote:Whenever I've read an Ayn Rand book, it's like reading a fairytale; the morality is all black-and-white, the hero and villain are clearly designated and there's always a heavy-handed moral in there somewhere.


Yes, so? That doesn't make her a bad author. It simply means that she isn't writing the sort of stories you want to read.

She has always said that she's writing stories in the Romantic tradition. Everything you mention fits in with that genre of fiction.

She should have been writing philosophical treatises, not fiction novels, because she tries to disguise the former as the latter and succeeds only in creating a novel which is too heavy to be read for pleasure and too dumbed down to be taken as a philosophical essay.


I read her novels for pleasure, and succeed. If you can't, that's your personal reaction.

Something similar is true for J.R.R. Tolkien. Some people love his stories and read them for pleasure. Others hate his stories and find them tedious and dull.

Does that make J.R.R. Tolkien a "bad author"? No. It simply means that he wasn't writing for everyone. The existence of people who love his stories -- indeed, many decades after initial publication -- should be enough of a reason to believe that he had succeeded as an author. Likewise for Ayn Rand.
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Postby Serrland » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:02 am

Flannery O'Connor. She should be considered one of the American greats, maybe even right up there with Hawthorne and Melville and Twain, but for some reason she's not quite considered good enough, or maybe just not read enough.

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Postby Coccygia » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:48 pm

Well...there is an obscure SF author, R. A. Lafferty, whose stories are quite funny, strange, and unique. Yet he seems to have been largely forgotten. His SF books (he also wrote historical novels) are mostly unavailable; I was able to find only one in the library (Does Anyone Else Have Something Further to Add? Stories About Secret Places and Mean Men). His stories are like fantastic, over-the-top tall tales.
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Postby Hironeidan » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:30 pm

William Boyd.

He wrote Any Human Heart, which is currently airing as a... Six part(?) series on channel four in the U.K. The book got very mixed views, but I think the realism and the journal approach made the story surprisingly engaging. Its kind of disappointing to see plots just fizzle away into nothing, but its all the more exhilarating to see them flare up for a few moments later in the story.
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Bavin wrote:
North Wiedna wrote:That Max Barry chap.

^ this

^ this
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