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Postby Concordeia » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:32 pm

I'm thinking about getting a free trial for EVE Online and then using the 14 or 21 days to collect enough money to buy in-game player time extensions (which cost upwards of 300 ISK). I want to play the game for free, but I don't know if I would be able to make enough in-game money in time to buy a time extension. I've heard that the best way of earning money quickly is to trade items on the market, but I'm afraid that I won't have a clue of what I'm doing once I actually start playing. Does anyone have any advice regarding earning money during the trial period?
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:18 am

I mined for like...12 days of the 21 day trial and managed to scrap up like 1,200 ISK iirc.
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Postby Morrdh » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:24 am

The mining route is probably the easiest way to earn ISK, though on a trial account you won't be able to gain access to certain skills.

Be warned it'll be a while before you earn huge amounts of ISK, but I managed to get 6 months worth of gameplay for free.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:28 am

Morrdh wrote:The mining route is probably the easiest way to earn ISK, though on a trial account you won't be able to gain access to certain skills.

Be warned it'll be a while before you earn huge amounts of ISK, but I managed to get 6 months worth of gameplay for free.


I played this before they had in-game certificates for play extension.

So yeah. All I got was the industrial mining skill and managed to get a cruiser or something, deck it out with like 4 mining lasers and a huge cargo hold. I thought I was so cool, making bank like that.

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Postby Morrdh » Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:34 am

I got all my Ice mining skills up and more or less maxed out on Mining Barges and Exhumers! :p

Since gone back to playing WoW....
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:25 am

I played WoW for a week and just stopped.

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Postby Keijzers » Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:55 pm

The problem with EVE is that your progress depends on your skills, and your skills quickly take a very long time to complete. It's pretty common for skills that progress from 4 to 5 to take a couple of weeks (this depends on the multiplier). So basically that means, you have to wait weeks (real time, it continues when you log off) for 1 skill to complete. Until then, you will most likely end up doing pretty boring stuff such as running missions to grind rep, or mining solo. Especially since you found WOW boring, I predict that you will find mission grinding in EVE especially boring.

The fun part about EVE is when you team up. You can do PVP then. The great thing about PVP in EVE is that it's not like that the more expensive ships automatically pwn the smaller ones. In a fleet, you need every role from an interceptor to a heavy assault ship. So there are certain roles that are useful and do not require so many skills. You can also do a mining op (mine with a bunch of dudes together) but in my opinion that gets boring very quickly unless you do it in low sec. There are different area's, low sec is the area that is for PVP without interference from the police. The downside is that a relatively easy to get role such as interceptor, actually has a very steep learning curve. Also, you need to fly to low sec to be able to pvp decently, and still... when you die, you don't just respawn like in other MMORPG's. You lose your ship, and if they shoot your pod then you will also lose all your implants. This can be solved by getting a clone for PVP (forgot the name), but that requires an insane high standing. Don't worry however, you will maintain your skill points when you die when you buy a regular clone (which is very, very cheap and shouldn't be a problem at all).

But I'm ranting on with too much unnecessary details. All in all, I only recommend EVE if you want to do it very serious. Half-assed efforts mean that you will miss out of any decent PVP, and will more likely mean that you have to fly an industrial (transport ship) to transport mining load from miners in a mining op. Or you grind missions till they bore you to death. Also, you need to choose a role quickly, because it takes a lot of time to train skills for a particular role. I found that out the hard way, when I lvld all my scanning skills, only to find out that I heavily dislike scanning on a regular basis.
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Postby Satirius » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:25 pm

Keijzers wrote: The great thing about PVP in EVE is that it's not like that the more expensive ships automatically pwn the smaller ones.

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Postby Yootwopia » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:46 pm

Concordeia wrote:I'm thinking about getting a free trial for EVE Online and then using the 14 or 21 days to collect enough money to buy in-game player time extensions (which cost upwards of 300 ISK). I want to play the game for free, but I don't know if I would be able to make enough in-game money in time to buy a time extension. I've heard that the best way of earning money quickly is to trade items on the market, but I'm afraid that I won't have a clue of what I'm doing once I actually start playing. Does anyone have any advice regarding earning money during the trial period?

Learn salvaging, fit a destroyer (pref comorant) with a bunch of salvagers I's and tractor beams, chase after wreckage. That's about the only way to plausibly make 300 million ISK in the trial. You'll still need to buy EVE and a month's time to use yer PLEX, though.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:20 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:I just buy money for online games.

I make more per hour then they can gather olololol


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Postby Mirkana » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:14 am

Concordeia wrote:I'm thinking about getting a free trial for EVE Online and then using the 14 or 21 days to collect enough money to buy in-game player time extensions (which cost upwards of 300 ISK). I want to play the game for free, but I don't know if I would be able to make enough in-game money in time to buy a time extension. I've heard that the best way of earning money quickly is to trade items on the market, but I'm afraid that I won't have a clue of what I'm doing once I actually start playing. Does anyone have any advice regarding earning money during the trial period?


I don't think it's possible to play EVE without ever paying CCP money. It takes time to get the skills you will need to afford time codes (which actually cost 300 million ISK for two months).
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Postby Andrioven » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:38 am

Mirkana wrote:I don't think it's possible to play EVE without ever paying CCP money. It takes time to get the skills you will need to afford time codes (which actually cost 300 million ISK for two months).


Yeah, I'm sort of leaning this way too, assuming you are trying to solo and don't have friends ingame that can either spot you the money or take you lowsec/nullsec ratting or high level missioning for isk. Even if you had the 21 day trial, assuming you played 24 hours a day (impossible for 21 days straight, yes) for the entire trial (at 504 hours total) you would still need to make 595,238.10 (rounded up) isk an hour. This would be possible for someone with some mining skills or the ability to run missions higher than level one, but it would mean never spending a cent to get a useful ship or (more importantly) sleeping. For someone coming into the game for the first time to try making the 300 mill by themselves...I honestly don't know if it is possible. Certainly very, very difficult if it is, and you probably won't have any fun playing the game.

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Postby Meridiani Planum » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:42 am

Join the guild called... oh, what was it? ... EVE University. I think that was it. They will help you learn how to play the game effectively.
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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:59 pm

Andrioven wrote:I honestly don't know if it is possible.

Constant level one missions in a destroyer with at least one tractor beam and a couple of salvagers and 5 turrets, against Blood Raiders or Serpentis might provide the salvage income to be able to do it. You'd be up against it in terms of making the 300 million(ish) ISK for a Plex, though.
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Postby Andrioven » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:23 am

Yootwopia wrote: Constant level one missions in a destroyer with at least one tractor beam and a couple of salvagers and 5 turrets, against Blood Raiders or Serpentis might provide the salvage income to be able to do it. You'd be up against it in terms of making the 300 million(ish) ISK for a Plex, though.


Yeah, that would probably be their best bet for making the money. They're still looking at...what? A five day train or so for Destroyers? If they got someone to send them an invite so they would get 21 days free, that leaves them with about 16 days to run their Destroyer. I'm sort of curious now to see if it is possible to get the 300 mil in 21 days on a trial account, though.

To the OP: I think I might have an old destroyer lying around somewhere in the universe. If you decide to play and get Frigate III and Destroyers I, send me a message on NS with your Eve character's name and I'll contract you a Destroyer. :p
Also, do you have someone that can send you an Eve invite for the 21 day trial? You'd have a better chance making the isk with the longer trial. Even if you don't make enough for the PLEX, it'll help you make a lot of isk and give you a better idea of how to play, if you decide to keep playing.
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Postby Concordeia » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:43 am

Lol, sorry I meant to say 300 million ISK but I left that bit out. :p

Anyway, I pretty much know I will not be able to make that much moolah in such a short amount of time. I'll just have to ask my parents for financial backing. I would pay for it myself, since I have the money for it, but I have no experience with online payment methods.

Also, I've managed to train for a destroyer by now and I'm now near the end of the Sisters of EVE arc, but some of these last enemies are insanely difficult. I had to ask for help from a guy in my corporation who had a battleship just to take Kristan Parthus out. I can't imagine how hard Dagan will be to beat. :(
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I was like, "Who the hell are you fighting... or more importantly, was your lunch meat laced?"


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