Metallica vs. Megadeth

[Hathradic States]

Quite simply, who do you think is better? And why do you think that they are better? Discuss why one is better than the other.

I, personally, can't chose. When I think "What are my five favorite metal songs?" four of the five are Megadeth. However, I listen to Metallica more often. I can't quite describe why.

[The Musically Gifted]

I like Metallica better but Megadeth is very good as well.

I picked the "both are cool" option because I love them both, but metallica (before St Anger) is better and more talented

Fave metallica songs: One, master of puppets, fade to black, wherever i may roan, memory remains
fave megadeth songs: peace sells, symphony of destruction

[Hathradic States]

Hmm agreed.

Fav Metallica songs: Sad but True, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice For All, To Live Is To Die
Fav Megadeth: Mechanix (FUCK the Four Horzemen), Symphony of Destruction, Holy Wars.

[Eliasonia]

Metallica any day. Megadeth has some good songs (mechanix, symphony, peace sells)
but James' voice absolutely rapes Dave's and i like Metallica's songs a lot more. (puppets, sandman, fight fire with fire, one, seek and destroy sanitarium ect. I could keep going but i think you get the idea)

[The REAL Glasers]

but metallica (before St Anger) is better and more talented

lolno. Just about every single lead guitarist Mustaine has ever played with embarrasses Kirk's sloppy ass, not to mention Gar Samuelson's prowess on drums compared to Lars Ulrich's terrible playing, Megadeth also had Nick Menza and Shawn Drover.

Megadeth has 4 great albums compared to Metallica's 2 great ones and 1 good one. Megadeth's albums feel like they flow better and Mustaine has always been a lot better a riff writing than Hetfield and Hammett.

[The Rich Port]

Metallica may be more successful, but Megadeth does have it's moments sometimes.

[The Musically Gifted]

but metallica (before St Anger) is better and more talented

lolno. Just about every single lead guitarist Mustaine has ever played with embarrasses Kirk's sloppy ass, not to mention Gar Samuelson's prowess on drums compared to Lars Ulrich's terrible playing, Megadeth also had Nick Menza and Shawn Drover.

Megadeth has 4 great albums compared to Metallica's 2 great ones and 1 good one. Megadeth's albums feel like they flow better and Mustaine has always been a lot better a riff writing than Hetfield and Hammett.

By more talented I was referring to how hetfield's voice kicks mustaine's voice's ass. cant deny that.
metallica also were better songwriters...
more talented in those regards. mustaine may be a better guitarist, its impossible to know for sure.

but hey, i love both bands!

[The REAL Glasers]

What qualifies Metallica as better songwriters? RtL was made up almost entirely of uncredited Mustaine riffs and MoP even had some of his contributions as well. AJFA is one of the most dragged-out, completely uninteresting albums. The rest was just generic trash. As far as Thrash goes, Megadeth wins.


I wasn't saying Mustaine was a good guitarist, I was saying he's great at writing riffs. Mustaine's lead playing is sloppy, which is why he's had incredible lead guitarists that range from Marty Friedman to Chris Broderick, all of which can play circles around Hammett.

[The Musically Gifted]

What qualifies Metallica as better songwriters? RtL was made up almost entirely of uncredited Mustaine riffs and MoP even had some of his contributions as well. AJFA is one of the most dragged-out, completely uninteresting albums. The rest was just generic trash. As far as Thrash goes, Megadeth wins.


I wasn't saying Mustaine was a good guitarist, I was saying he's great at writing riffs. Mustaine's lead playing is sloppy, which is why he's had incredible lead guitarists that range from Marty Friedman to Chris Broderick, all of which can play circles around Hammett.

Rtl had two songs credited to mustaine
Mop had maybe one but it is unconfirmed

and you still cant deny hetfields voice kicks mustaine's ass

Metallica had way more hit songs at epic amingness (Master of Puppets, One, and Fade to black for example) than megadeth who had maybe 3 songs that are simply amazing

and i dont like you bashing Hammett's guitar playing, he's one of the greatest

i like both bands but metallica is still better. es obvio

[The REAL Glasers]

What qualifies Metallica as better songwriters? RtL was made up almost entirely of uncredited Mustaine riffs and MoP even had some of his contributions as well. AJFA is one of the most dragged-out, completely uninteresting albums. The rest was just generic trash. As far as Thrash goes, Megadeth wins.


I wasn't saying Mustaine was a good guitarist, I was saying he's great at writing riffs. Mustaine's lead playing is sloppy, which is why he's had incredible lead guitarists that range from Marty Friedman to Chris Broderick, all of which can play circles around Hammett.

Rtl had two songs credited to mustaine
Mop had maybe one but it is unconfirmed

and you still cant deny hetfields voice kicks mustaine's ass

Metallica had way more hit songs at epic amingness (Master of Puppets, One, and Fade to black for example) than megadeth who had maybe 3 songs that are simply amazing

and i dont like you bashing Hammett's guitar playing, he's one of the greatest

i like both bands but metallica is still better. es obvio

I can and I will. I love Mustaine's voice, he's also kept it in better shape. Hetfield could never live up to the records, even back in the late 80s. His voice just strikes me as cheesy in some cases and has no place in Thrash anymore.

A friend of mine played with Chris Poland, who is formerly of Megadeth. Mustaine wrote more riffs than he was credited for, but because he did not demo the riffs or anything like that, he could not legally claim them. Four Horsemen is the only one he had sufficient proof to legally claim rights to.

"My Last Words" is more "epic" than anything Metallica has ever put out. One and Master of Puppets drag on for way too long, Fade to Black is great though.

Hammett was great, now he's sloppy as hell and can only rely on a few tricks, Chris Broderick can play circles around him, just look him up.

You're speaking like a Metallica fan that owns every one of their albums and a Megadeth fan that has only heard the radio singles.

[The Musically Gifted]

Rtl had two songs credited to mustaine
Mop had maybe one but it is unconfirmed

and you still cant deny hetfields voice kicks mustaine's ass

Metallica had way more hit songs at epic amingness (Master of Puppets, One, and Fade to black for example) than megadeth who had maybe 3 songs that are simply amazing

and i dont like you bashing Hammett's guitar playing, he's one of the greatest

i like both bands but metallica is still better. es obvio

I can and I will. I love Mustaine's voice, he's also kept it in better shape. Hetfield could never live up to the records, even back in the late 80s. His voice just strikes me as cheesy in some cases and has no place in Thrash anymore.

A friend of mine played with Chris Poland, who is formerly of Megadeth. Mustaine wrote more riffs than he was credited for, but because he did not demo the riffs or anything like that, he could not legally claim them. Four Horsemen is the only one he had sufficient proof to legally claim rights to.

"My Last Words" is more "epic" than anything Metallica has ever put out. One and Master of Puppets drag on for way too long, Fade to Black is great though.

Hammett was great, now he's sloppy as hell and can only rely on a few tricks, Chris Broderick can play circles around him, just look him up.

You're speaking like a Metallica fan that owns every one of their albums and a Megadeth fan that has only heard the radio singles.

That is actually quite accurate...I have always loved Metallica but am a pretty new Megadeth listener...but I've heard enough to know that I prefer Metallica. Mustaine's voice weaker...sounds strained at times

One and Master of Puppets dont "drag on" they are masterpieces and are so good they feel short despite the length.

I agree Hammett's skill has diminished some with age, but that happens to everybody

About the uncredited riffs no one will ever know what Mustaine did or didnt do but Mustaine and Hetfield.

Hmmm I've never heard "my last words" i'll look it up!

I've actually enjoyed this nice conversation we're having about two awesome thrash bands!

[Strator]

Both bands' more recent albums are not as good as their earlier stuff, but for Metallica that is perhaps the grossest understatement of all time. Of the earlier stuff, I definitely prefer Metallica, despite Megadeth still being one of my favorite bands, but Megadave is still coming out with some alright stuff, while Metallica are churning out shit.

I love both bands, but nonetheless

Unforgiven II, Unforgiven, No Leaf Clover, One, Ride The Lightning, Whiskey In The Jar
Are better than
Addicted To Chaos, Architecture of Aggression, A Tout Le Monde, Hangar 18, Symphony Of Destruction


I did see Megadeth this year though, and they kicked ass, Megadave was really lacking in the passion. DOWNLOAD 2010!!!

[Sjfiowe]

Neither, they're both too fast and not distorted enough

[Halfmanistan]

Neither, they're both too fast and not distorted enough

I don't see a "Bardo Pond" option

[Eliasonia]

Neither, they're both too fast and not distorted enough

They're thrash bands... what are they supposed to be?

[Conoga]

Farzad Golpayegani.

[Conoga]

Farzad Golpayegani.

[Demen]

Quite simply, who do you think is better? And why do you think that they are better? Discuss why one is better than the other.

I, personally, can't chose. When I think "What are my five favorite metal songs?" four of the five are Megadeth. However, I listen to Metallica more often. I can't quite describe why.

Slayer and Anthrax. Oh, and Venom.


But 'Tallica and 'Deth? They got nothing on the other greats. I hate Metallica, anyway.

[Balrogga]

I liked both bands until Metallica sold out. After their Black Album they have put out nothing but crap and I refuse to listen to it. Megadeth on the other hand has not changed their style. Dave keeps kicking ass even today. Dave even supports music on the internet while Metallica are the ones who started the fall of Napster and the other sites bringing the music companies into the scene. Research the history if you do not believe me.



In summery:

Old stuff, I love both. New stuff, I can leave Metallica where it deserves to be and listen to Megadeth.

No competition.

[Eliasonia]

I liked both bands until Metallica sold out. After their Black Album they have put out nothing but crap and I refuse to listen to it. Megadeth on the other hand has not changed their style. Dave keeps kicking ass even today. Dave even supports music on the internet while Metallica are the ones who started the fall of Napster and the other sites bringing the music companies into the scene. Research the history if you do not believe me.



In summery:

Old stuff, I love both. New stuff, I can leave Metallica where it deserves to be and listen to Megadeth.

No competition.

I can tell i am going to take some heat for this but i must say i disagree. Times changed and like most bands do, they adapted. I don't call that selling out. Also not everything after the Black Album was crap. Load and Reload were both solid albums with kickass songs (Unforgiven II, Until it Sleeps, King Nothing, Memory Remains, Fuel, Whiskey in the Jar). St. Anger sucked i will agree but DM is a fucking awesome album imo and also has a variety of kickass songs (That was Just Your Life, BB&S, The Day That Never Comes, Cyanide, All Nightmare Long, Unforgiven III). so again, I must disagree with you and say Metallica over Megadeth any day.

[Demen]

I liked both bands until Metallica sold out. After their Black Album they have put out nothing but crap and I refuse to listen to it. Megadeth on the other hand has not changed their style. Dave keeps kicking ass even today. Dave even supports music on the internet while Metallica are the ones who started the fall of Napster and the other sites bringing the music companies into the scene. Research the history if you do not believe me.



In summery:

Old stuff, I love both. New stuff, I can leave Metallica where it deserves to be and listen to Megadeth.

No competition.

[The REAL Glasers]

I liked both bands until Metallica sold out. After their Black Album they have put out nothing but crap and I refuse to listen to it. Megadeth on the other hand has not changed their style. Dave keeps kicking ass even today. Dave even supports music on the internet while Metallica are the ones who started the fall of Napster and the other sites bringing the music companies into the scene. Research the history if you do not believe me.



In summery:

Old stuff, I love both. New stuff, I can leave Metallica where it deserves to be and listen to Megadeth.

No competition.

I can tell i am going to take some heat for this but i must say i disagree. Times changed and like most bands do, they adapted. I don't call that selling out. Also not everything after the Black Album was crap. Load and Reload were both solid albums with kickass songs (Unforgiven II, Until it Sleeps, King Nothing, Memory Remains, Fuel, Whiskey in the Jar). St. Anger sucked i will agree but DM is a fucking awesome album imo and also has a variety of kickass songs (That was Just Your Life, BB&S, The Day That Never Comes, Cyanide, All Nightmare Long, Unforgiven III). so again, I must disagree with you and say Metallica over Megadeth any day.

Metallica completely watered down their sound so they could sell out larger arenas, that's the very definition of selling out.

[Eliasonia]

I can tell i am going to take some heat for this but i must say i disagree. Times changed and like most bands do, they adapted. I don't call that selling out. Also not everything after the Black Album was crap. Load and Reload were both solid albums with kickass songs (Unforgiven II, Until it Sleeps, King Nothing, Memory Remains, Fuel, Whiskey in the Jar). St. Anger sucked i will agree but DM is a fucking awesome album imo and also has a variety of kickass songs (That was Just Your Life, BB&S, The Day That Never Comes, Cyanide, All Nightmare Long, Unforgiven III). so again, I must disagree with you and say Metallica over Megadeth any day.

Metallica completely watered down their sound so they could sell out larger arenas, that's the very definition of selling out.

So slowing down is suddenly selling out? Sounds like a load of bs to me. The change in James' voice was because he blew it out. Other than that, the only difference in the music was that it was slower. Explain how slowing down is selling out.

[The REAL Glasers]

Metallica completely watered down their sound so they could sell out larger arenas, that's the very definition of selling out.

So slowing down is suddenly selling out? Sounds like a load of bs to me. The change in James' voice was because he blew it out. Other than that, the only difference in the music was that it was slower. Explain how slowing down is selling out.

Uh, the music as a whole is a lot less harsh, also, Metallica made their music more hook-oriented. The end result was catchy, bloated music that was a lot less abrasive but still with enough edge to keep some old fans.

[The REAL Glasers]

I can and I will. I love Mustaine's voice, he's also kept it in better shape. Hetfield could never live up to the records, even back in the late 80s. His voice just strikes me as cheesy in some cases and has no place in Thrash anymore.

A friend of mine played with Chris Poland, who is formerly of Megadeth. Mustaine wrote more riffs than he was credited for, but because he did not demo the riffs or anything like that, he could not legally claim them. Four Horsemen is the only one he had sufficient proof to legally claim rights to.

"My Last Words" is more "epic" than anything Metallica has ever put out. One and Master of Puppets drag on for way too long, Fade to Black is great though.

Hammett was great, now he's sloppy as hell and can only rely on a few tricks, Chris Broderick can play circles around him, just look him up.

You're speaking like a Metallica fan that owns every one of their albums and a Megadeth fan that has only heard the radio singles.

That is actually quite accurate...I have always loved Metallica but am a pretty new Megadeth listener...but I've heard enough to know that I prefer Metallica. Mustaine's voice weaker...sounds strained at times

One and Master of Puppets dont "drag on" they are masterpieces and are so good they feel short despite the length.

I agree Hammett's skill has diminished some with age, but that happens to everybody

About the uncredited riffs no one will ever know what Mustaine did or didnt do but Mustaine and Hetfield.

Hmmm I've never heard "my last words" i'll look it up!

I've actually enjoyed this nice conversation we're having about two awesome thrash bands!

3 big radio singles=/=knowing enough about an entire discography. Megadeth's first 4 albums alone are Thrash essentials.

Masterpieces to you, bloated compositions filled with excessive and needless sections to me.

True, but he's gotten excessively sloppy and relies far too much on wah, he's out of soloing ideas.

Mustaine does, which is what he told Chris Poland, and everyone else in his band.

Well, at least this is civil, I was being kind of blunt earlier.