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Did Halo: Reach live up to the hype?

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Postby GeneralHaNor » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:18 am

I bought it, enjoy it, but considering the MW2 still has more active players this week, it hasn't been successful in drawing away the crowds.

Still a love this new forge engine, I enjoy loadouts, and new game modes are always a bonus

all in all, a well polished product, that I would recommend to friends looking for a new FPS
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:18 am

Hegstoria wrote:
SaintB wrote:The big deal about Halo is not that it does anything no other game has done before, but it does it better. Halo games are among the best presented most polished games you can find; each one is meticulously crafted from the very beginning like a Michelangelo statue (though not quite the same quality). They also do a great deal of fan service and craft their universe to appeal to sci-fi lovers of all stripes they make references to Star Wars, Star Trek, and Firefly for instance, they also adopted internet memes and even a cartoon series that makes fun of their game into the universe.

As for Reach, I like it, its not super special but it once more does everything right (I miss dual wielding weapons though) there are almost no bugs or glitches and the narrative is tight and keeps you drawn in. Multiplayer's matchmaking system ensures you want get tossed into arenas where you get clobbered by far superior players and I like the number of custom options you have for your Spartans. Things I didn't like are the firefight loadouts, I'd rather be able to pick my weapons and special ability separately than from groups; and they once more made stealth essentially pointless since the only thing you can sneak up on are other players who aren't watching their motion detectors.

This, how about the haters read this instead of hate.


...

...

Yup, still don't like it.

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Postby Kostemetsia » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:20 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:Halo: Reach was almost as good as the original Halo. Perhaps even better. :D


... Huh. Comparing one game... To another game that is the exact same game. Boy, you'd make a great art critic.

You obviously know the Halo series inside out, don't you. Reach is chronologically earlier than Combat Evolved, and sets up the events of that game.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:43 am

Kostemetsia wrote:You obviously know the Halo series inside out, don't you. Reach is chronologically earlier than Combat Evolved, and sets up the events of that game.


STILL don't care much about it. :ugeek:

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Postby North Suran » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:33 am

Hegstoria wrote:This, how about the haters read this instead of hate.

How about because none of those points were objectively true?

Hegstoria wrote:No, the Humans are actually quite flawed. Learn the story first before you go ranting about it.

The humans are "quite flawed" in the same way that John Marsden was "quite flawed". Master Chief is a Mary Sue of galactic proportions. The humans are under a freedom-loving, democratic USA-expy while the aliens are lead by an evil theocratic cabal. It couldn't be anymore black-and-white if the alien's sole motivation was to destroy all life in the univ-

Oh, wait. It is.
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Postby Kostemetsia » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:41 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Kostemetsia wrote:You obviously know the Halo series inside out, don't you. Reach is chronologically earlier than Combat Evolved, and sets up the events of that game.


STILL don't care much about it. :ugeek:

You don't get to use the ugeek emoticon, because you botched an elementary fact about one of the most profitable franchises in videogaming history. :P
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:22 am

I didn't really like Halo, and I don't really get why people like it. I get nauseous whenever I play it, and yeah.... It's waaaay overrated.
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Postby The Glorious Combine » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:00 am

North Suran wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:This, how about the haters read this instead of hate.

How about because none of those points were objectively true?

Hegstoria wrote:No, the Humans are actually quite flawed. Learn the story first before you go ranting about it.

The humans are "quite flawed" in the same way that John Marsden was "quite flawed". Master Chief is a Mary Sue of galactic proportions. The humans are under a freedom-loving, democratic USA-expy while the aliens are lead by an evil theocratic cabal. It couldn't be anymore black-and-white if the alien's sole motivation was to destroy all life in the univ-

Oh, wait. It is.

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Postby The REAL Glasers » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:08 pm

SaintB wrote:
Cyber Utopia wrote:and they once more made stealth essentially pointless since the only thing you can sneak up on are other players who aren't watching their motion detectors.



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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:17 pm

Arumdaum wrote:I didn't really like Halo, and I don't really get why people like it. I get nauseous whenever I play it, and yeah.... It's waaaay overrated.


thank you :hug:

my complaints about the series (apart from reach, which i'm yet to see):

-bad graphics
-everything is shiny... EVERYTHING :blink:
-anything without a scope had a bullet drop of about 10m
-anything with a scope was infinitely accurate and had no bullet drop in comparison.
-horrible physics engine
-too much armour, even on hard difficulites
-completely anti-climatic
-feels like a 3rd person shooter because you just can't get into the game
-'actions' don't have your charachter do anything, just the environment work.
-i felt more in the place of the marines that follwed me than i did as 'master chief'
-obvious storyline is obvious

enjoyed MW and MW2 more than any of the halo series, mainly because the MW series had its in-action cutscenes and made a point about the storyline, didn't just ignore the storyline and make a game where you're invincible and can melee things 5 times your size to death.
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Postby Hegstoria » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:49 pm

North Suran wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:This, how about the haters read this instead of hate.

How about because none of those points were objectively true?

Hegstoria wrote:No, the Humans are actually quite flawed. Learn the story first before you go ranting about it.

The humans are "quite flawed" in the same way that John Marsden was "quite flawed". Master Chief is a Mary Sue of galactic proportions. The humans are under a freedom-loving, democratic USA-expy while the aliens are lead by an evil theocratic cabal. It couldn't be anymore black-and-white if the alien's sole motivation was to destroy all life in the univ-

Oh, wait. It is.

:palm: Thats from the games, not the actual universe. In the universe of halo the UN has developed into an intergalactic dictatorship ruling the colonies with an iron fist. People in the colonies couldn't own anything the UNSC thought was bad (Which there was a lot of), they couldn't own the simplest if guns, and the UNSC kidnapped children to turn them into super soldiers. Thats only a small part, there's more if you do the research. So no, they are quite flawed.
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Postby North Suran » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:49 pm

Hegstoria wrote:
North Suran wrote:The humans are "quite flawed" in the same way that John Marsden was "quite flawed". Master Chief is a Mary Sue of galactic proportions. The humans are under a freedom-loving, democratic USA-expy while the aliens are lead by an evil theocratic cabal. It couldn't be anymore black-and-white if the alien's sole motivation was to destroy all life in the univ-

Oh, wait. It is.

:palm: Thats from the games, not the actual universe.

Are the games not the actual universe? I would of thought that the actual games from the video game series would be fairly influential. Regardless, we are discussing the games here. And in the games, humanity is perfect and aliens are evil. You can blather on about the "extended universe" all you want, but it is still irrelevant to the games - whose plots are actually written by Bungie, as opposed to the novels. If I wrote a fan-fic for the Transformers film on the level of Leo Tolstoy, would that change the fact that the film had a poor plot? No.
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Postby Cyber Utopia » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:04 pm

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Cyber Utopia wrote:
Bungie are not going to make another Halo game. 343 In industries, however, will develop one soon. Microsoft appear to be planning a Halo release next year to celebrate the 10th anniversary.

Microsoft have said that now Bungie have finished with Halo, releases of games in the franchise will become more frequent: http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=22424

No Microsoft didn't, the article only snipits a small portion of the original article. It was from an Interview with the Vice President who said that "He would like them to make yearly releases", that does not mean it will happen.


This is Microsoft, you're kidding yourself if you think they're not going to milk this bitch dry. Especially now that Bungie won't be working on the games, future Halo releases will make fanboys worldwide slit thier wrists in unison.
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Postby Hegstoria » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:17 pm

North Suran wrote:
Hegstoria wrote: :palm: Thats from the games, not the actual universe.

Are the games not the actual universe? I would of thought that the actual games from the video game series would be fairly influential. Regardless, we are discussing the games here. And in the games, humanity is perfect and aliens are evil. You can blather on about the "extended universe" all you want, but it is still irrelevant to the games - whose plots are actually written by Bungie, as opposed to the novels. If I wrote a fan-fic for the Transformers film on the level of Leo Tolstoy, would that change the fact that the film had a poor plot? No.

Well actually, the games are only a small part of the universe. The books, anime, and graphic novels have covered far more of the story than anything else, and all of the major ones except for one are confirmed cannon by Bungie and 343 Studios. If your gonna discuss the humans in Halo you have to cover the entire universe and not just the games, it's stubborn and plane stupid not to. For example, many things from the Star Wars universe were not portrayed in the films, but are still confirmed cannon and always taken into consideration when discussing the entire universe. The same can be said for most video games or film series.
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Postby Kazahk » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:41 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:I didn't really like Halo, and I don't really get why people like it. I get nauseous whenever I play it, and yeah.... It's waaaay overrated.


thank you :hug:

my complaints about the series (apart from reach, which i'm yet to see):

-bad graphics
-everything is shiny... EVERYTHING :blink:
-anything without a scope had a bullet drop of about 10m
-anything with a scope was infinitely accurate and had no bullet drop in comparison.
-horrible physics engine
-too much armour, even on hard difficulites
-completely anti-climatic
-feels like a 3rd person shooter because you just can't get into the game
-'actions' don't have your charachter do anything, just the environment work.
-i felt more in the place of the marines that follwed me than i did as 'master chief'
-obvious storyline is obvious

enjoyed MW and MW2 more than any of the halo series, mainly because the MW series had its in-action cutscenes and made a point about the storyline, didn't just ignore the storyline and make a game where you're invincible and can melee things 5 times your size to death.



well I don't like halo either but I must disagree... MW2 has the worst story I have seen in a game
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:26 pm

Kazahk wrote:well I don't like halo either but I must disagree... MW2 has the worst story I have seen in a game


not a good one, but i've seen worse.
it's more the approach to the game and its storyline that impressed me.
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Postby North Suran » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:49 pm

Hegstoria wrote:Well actually, the games are only a small part of the universe.

They founded the God damn universe. I wouldn't call that "small".

Hegstoria wrote:The books, anime, and graphic novels have covered far more of the story than anything else, and all of the major ones except for one are confirmed cannon by Bungie and 343 Studios.

Yet none of them were written by Bungie. They basically skimmed over them and said "Yeah, why not". The novels were not planned by Bungie; they are independent efforts. Like fan fiction - only confirmed as canon.

Hegstoria wrote:If your gonna discuss the humans in Halo you have to cover the entire universe and not just the games, it's stubborn and plane stupid not to.

Not when the topic-of-discussion is the game itself. I don't give a crap about some third-party novels. The point still stands; in the game, the humans are unambiguously good and the aliens are unambiguously evil.
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Postby Maurepas » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:10 am

I played it with a friend and thoroughly enjoyed it. It fucks the continuity to hell, but I'm forcing myself not to complain about that, simply because the game itself is such a massive improvement over 3. The weapons are better, the vehicles, and most importantly, I think, the difficulty level and AI, the AI is just so much more intelligent and on Legendary the Elites are much harder to kill, making the game much more challenging and more fun, :)

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Postby Findas » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:59 pm

Kazahk wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:
thank you :hug:

my complaints about the series (apart from reach, which i'm yet to see):

-bad graphics
-everything is shiny... EVERYTHING :blink:
-anything without a scope had a bullet drop of about 10m
-anything with a scope was infinitely accurate and had no bullet drop in comparison.
-horrible physics engine
-too much armour, even on hard difficulites
-completely anti-climatic
-feels like a 3rd person shooter because you just can't get into the game
-'actions' don't have your charachter do anything, just the environment work.
-i felt more in the place of the marines that follwed me than i did as 'master chief'
-obvious storyline is obvious

enjoyed MW and MW2 more than any of the halo series, mainly because the MW series had its in-action cutscenes and made a point about the storyline, didn't just ignore the storyline and make a game where you're invincible and can melee things 5 times your size to death.



well I don't like halo either but I must disagree... MW2 has the worst story I have seen in a game


So your saying MW is realistic Kazahk! Well I'll have to say MW is one of the most over rated games I have played. It's fun however though it's not realistic and as good as people think.

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Postby Kazahk » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:27 pm

Findas wrote:
Kazahk wrote:

well I don't like halo either but I must disagree... MW2 has the worst story I have seen in a game


So your saying MW is realistic Kazahk! Well I'll have to say MW is one of the most over rated games I have played. It's fun however though it's not realistic and as good as people think.


No no, sorry I agree it is horribly unrealistic (the list for this is infinite); but I was just saying the story is horrendously bad.
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Postby Hegstoria » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:36 pm

Findas wrote:
Kazahk wrote:

well I don't like halo either but I must disagree... MW2 has the worst story I have seen in a game


So your saying MW is realistic Kazahk! Well I'll have to say MW is one of the most over rated games I have played. It's fun however though it's not realistic and as good as people think.

BC2 has a far more realistic multiplayer while still being thoroughly fun to play (Flashpoint Dragon Rising has multiplayer too, but that game sucks imo, it's just so difficult to figure out what I'm supposed to be doing in that game.), MW and MW2 are just full of n00b toobers and other annoying people. I played MW2 mutli for a week, haven't touched it since.
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Postby Novograd IV » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:29 pm

Hegstoria wrote:
Findas wrote:
So your saying MW is realistic Kazahk! Well I'll have to say MW is one of the most over rated games I have played. It's fun however though it's not realistic and as good as people think.

BC2 has a far more realistic multiplayer while still being thoroughly fun to play (Flashpoint Dragon Rising has multiplayer too, but that game sucks imo, it's just so difficult to figure out what I'm supposed to be doing in that game.), MW and MW2 are just full of n00b toobers and other annoying people. I played MW2 mutli for a week, haven't touched it since.

man up and kill them just using your undermounted shotgun!

and BC2 would have a better online, because the original battlefield series' were ALL essentially multiplayer exclusive.
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Postby Hegstoria » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:06 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:BC2 has a far more realistic multiplayer while still being thoroughly fun to play (Flashpoint Dragon Rising has multiplayer too, but that game sucks imo, it's just so difficult to figure out what I'm supposed to be doing in that game.), MW and MW2 are just full of n00b toobers and other annoying people. I played MW2 mutli for a week, haven't touched it since.

man up and kill them just using your undermounted shotgun!

and BC2 would have a better online, because the original battlefield series' were ALL essentially multiplayer exclusive.

The under mounted shotgun in BC2 or in MW2? I tried the BC2 one, but I never got into it, I find the GL to be far more useful in that environment.

As for the second comment, most CoD fans would disagree with you, they can't stand how long it takes to level up and the difficulty in comparison to CoD. But if your good at it it's the best damn game ever (I got a marksmen medal yesterday, accompanied by a medal for getting 500 head shots with a sniper rifle when I killed two men that were down range on a roof, it was awesome).

There needs to be a BC2 fan club on NS.
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Postby The Glorious Combine » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:47 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:BC2 has a far more realistic multiplayer while still being thoroughly fun to play (Flashpoint Dragon Rising has multiplayer too, but that game sucks imo, it's just so difficult to figure out what I'm supposed to be doing in that game.), MW and MW2 are just full of n00b toobers and other annoying people. I played MW2 mutli for a week, haven't touched it since.

man up and kill them just using your undermounted shotgun!

and BC2 would have a better online, because the original battlefield series' were ALL essentially multiplayer exclusive.

Arma II is better, much more realistic, and this time you're not always fighting the Russians for no real reason. What REALLY pissed me off in MW2, is that the Spetsnaz fought for COMMUNIST russia! WTF

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Postby Novograd IV » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:34 pm

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Novograd IV wrote:man up and kill them just using your undermounted shotgun!

and BC2 would have a better online, because the original battlefield series' were ALL essentially multiplayer exclusive.

Arma II is better, much more realistic, and this time you're not always fighting the Russians for no real reason. What REALLY pissed me off in MW2, is that the Spetsnaz fought for COMMUNIST russia! WTF


it's in the future (about 5 years). pay attention to the storyline.
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