What happened to Classical music?

[Strykla]

Alright, anybody who cares, there's an Orchestra now.
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[Sol-Kar]

No, not classic rock, put Classical. What happened? People these days have no respect for it, instead choosing noise like Lady gaga and Katy perry. Where's the respect? People say that Classical music is stupid, tiresome, and boring. Yeah? musicians played a cello and a violin, not screamed death metal into a mic, not wearing horribly improper clothing. And their music has lasted for hundreds of years.

classical is the only type i listen to

I hate basically all modern music, it is just plain stupid.

[Arranfirangia]

I listen to what you call noise, jazz, rock, and my favorite classical pieces. I believe, however, that (for everyone except wannabe people who only listen to that noise) classical music doesnt have enough... percussion i guess, and often repeats a certain number of notes. There also is no words for most. My conspiracist self wants to say America doesnt want people's brains to be simulated by classical.

[Ipcress]

No, not classic rock, put Classical. What happened? People these days have no respect for it, instead choosing noise like Lady gaga and Katy perry. Where's the respect? People say that Classical music is stupid, tiresome, and boring. Yeah? musicians played a cello and a violin, not screamed death metal into a mic, not wearing horribly improper clothing. And their music has lasted for hundreds of years.

classical is the only type i listen to


Totally agree!
I hate basically all modern music, it is just plain stupid.

[Chrobalta]

Culture became highly commercialized. You aren't going to sell overpriced T-shirts with 'Beethoven" on them. What is "in" is determined almost entirely by wherever the most profit is to be made.

[Thurask]

It became modern.

Sometimes they meet in the middle.
Anyway, I like classical. Like, say, this.

[Imperial Domtopia]

Bach kicked some ass.

[Rupeslonga]

I LIKE SATAN DEATHCORE ROCKHELLMUSIC FTW!

[Hassett]

It became modern.

Sometimes they meet in the middle.
Anyway, I like classical. Like, say, this.

^That first song kicks ass, haha

[Lackadaisical2]

I do like Classical Music, however, I enjoy other music a little better (such as Hatsune Miku :3). I will admit though, it is better than a *lot* of stuff today. :3

You like a machine better?

Your avi is either creepy or cute, I can't decide.

More OT: I just listened to Vivaldi, the fact that classical lives on at all as a genre shows people haven't lost respect for it. Now doowop, thats almost never on the radio, yet its quite good, imo.

[Blau Stein]

I think lots of people listen to classical music. Perhaps they just don't talk about it as much. I've always loved classical music, but it isn't the only thing I listen to. As some others have pointed out some newer genres of music have classical influences, such as metal.

[Bromin]

I do love a nice classical song, before my morning rock block.

[Arumdaum]

But I like horribly improper clothing.

Anyways, umm..... I think classical pretty much died. To me at least.

[The Gradonian Islands]

I listen to classical music (I play the Alto Sax, Bari Sax and Piano) hell I'm listing to Beethoven's 9th Symphony Right now it's good stuff
Ode An die Freude
oh yeah I'm just that cool
but I like anything from 1650-1959 and some stuff in the 1960's

[Olthar]

There's still plenty of orchestral music abound today. In fact, many people listen to it without realizing it's classical. The music from Star Wars and Lord of the Rings is all classical. Many video game employ classical tunes. Sure, the old musicians like Bach and Mozart may not be as popular anymore, but classical music is still all around us if you look for it.

[Zirconim]

Horribly improper clothing???

[New Manvir]

Bach kicked some ass.

That's Baroque, not Classical.

I find Classical music somewhat boring compared to Rock or Rap. Romantic is much better and I like some Chopin.

[Mindhar]

Shifting social and musical influences turned it into Romanticism. Romantic composers became increasingly dissociated from popular music (previously the primary difference between "art" and "entertainment" had been that the former was slightly longer and more expensive) and a divide sprung up with "artists" producing increasingly more elitist and less utilitarian music, and "entertainers" doing the opposite. Around the same time, historians canonised Beethoven and (retrospectively) several earlier composers, with conductors such as Felix Mendelssohn starting the previously unheard-of practice of reviving old pieces for the large concert halls that had previously been used primarily for the performances of "entertainment music". This led to three general strands of music: popular music, which was largely ephemeral but had mass appeal; new art music, which was designed to last and appealed more to educated people; and old art music, which had acquired permanence and which also had mass appeal. The situation remained roughly similar until the Sixties.

The primary musical revolution of the sixties was that certain popular entertainers (a) acquired immense mass followings and then (b) began to adopt the attributes of art music. This coincided with a crossover as popular music became "acceptable" and captured almost all of the audience that had been interested in new art music -- the surviving "art music" practitioners were entering an experimental phase, but pop musicians were entering an experimental phase and maintaining certain familiar characteristics to allow audiences to relate. Moreover, while the art music's experimentation proved short-lived (by the 80s or so the mainstream was back to the "moderate modernism" that had dominated the 1930s and 40s), the experiments in popular music had lasting influences across the spectrum. As a result, new art music has only a very small specialty audience, and popular music can no longer be considered a single "genre" appealing to only one or two groups. Old art music's audience is ageing and shrinking, and remains by and large aristocratic.

The situation is analogous to, say, the early 17th century -- with new art music corresponding to the musicians continuing to write polyphony in the style of Palestrina and Byrd, new popular music corresponding to the range of new forms (madrigal, opera) arising from formerly popular genres, and old art music corresponding to the stile antico of actual church music that would remain a closed canon, seeing liturgical use, for centuries. The only question is who's going to be this century's Monteverdi.

Anyway, I listen mostly to modernist and contemporary art music. And Bach. Ancient polyphony is growing on me somewhat, but as a rule vocal music after 1600 (including almost all pop music, as well as opera, art songs, and oratorios) is of no interest to me.

[Buffett and Colbert]

People say I have an odd taste in music. It ranges from Classical to Polka to Jimmy Buffett's stuff (for which this nation is partly named). I especially do love Ode to Joy. I can play it on three+ instruments (basically; I'm not a musician) and know it in 9 languages (I'm not a singer either).

[Iotor]

Classical music is still around. It's just the minority genre now...Lots of decent modern classical (Juxtaposition much?) pieces...Immediate Music and X-ray dog are really good composer companies.

But still, Summer Overture is friggin awesome.

[Conserative Morality]

Classical Music is dull and tedious. I very much prefer the Baroque period.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Classical Music is dull and tedious. I very much prefer the Baroque period.

I like both, to be quite honest. I'm not sure which I prefer.

[North Breifne]

Breaking News!

New Instrumental Music Competition!

[Extreme Ironing]

No, not classic rock, put Classical. What happened? People these days have no respect for it, instead choosing noise like Lady gaga and Katy perry. Where's the respect? People say that Classical music is stupid, tiresome, and boring. Yeah? musicians played a cello and a violin, not screamed death metal into a mic, not wearing horribly improper clothing. And their music has lasted for hundreds of years.

I don't think you mean 'Classical' as that is rather more specific than you seem to be talking about (c.1750-1820 centred mostly around Vienna), rather you mean 'classical' as a form of art music.

I'd say there is respect for it, just look at the Proms, but isn't something people would choose to listen to generally. The commercial nature of music now has changed much for both popular and classical, producing things like film music and Rutter, but let's not kid ourselves that this didn't happen in previous centuries - the popularity of madrigal books, Dowland's circle-format for songbooks to allow performance by 2-4 people around a table, etc..

Talking of real art music, it has never been a popular thing; for many centuries anyone in the wrong class and without money wouldn't have been able to listen to it at all, it was very aristocratic within royal courts and salons. Even in the church the idea of a congregation hearing polyphony didn't exist before the 15th century, and these were the centres of new music-making for hundreds of years. However, the wealth allowed this music to be written down for posterity and thus preserved unlike most popular music. Amongst troubadour music, generally thought of as music of the people, the surviving repertory is all from court poet/composers not from wandering minstrels.

So don't expect it to be popular; respected perhaps and receiving the most funding, but it will never have a huge following.

[Lenyo]

No, not classic rock, put Classical. What happened? People these days have no respect for it, instead choosing noise like Lady gaga and Katy perry. Where's the respect? People say that Classical music is stupid, tiresome, and boring. Yeah? musicians played a cello and a violin, not screamed death metal into a mic, not wearing horribly improper clothing. And their music has lasted for hundreds of years.

I agree fully.