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Postby HISPIDA » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:09 pm

PAYDAY 3's first DLC came out, and you can play it with a mod you can download in like 15 seconds.

never change, overkill.
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Postby Untecna » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:43 pm

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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:58 pm

Hispida wrote:PAYDAY 3's first DLC came out, and you can play it with a mod you can download in like 15 seconds.

never change, overkill.

Payday 3 looks so bland and like it literally brings nothing new to the table, so I haven't even bothered looking at it.
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Postby HISPIDA » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:59 pm

Corrian wrote:
Hispida wrote:PAYDAY 3's first DLC came out, and you can play it with a mod you can download in like 15 seconds.

never change, overkill.

Payday 3 looks so bland and like it literally brings nothing new to the table, so I haven't even bothered looking at it.

it's fun. it's really fun, actually. it's probably the most fun game i've played that came out this year. it's just so shallow.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:07 pm

Hispida wrote:
Corrian wrote:Payday 3 looks so bland and like it literally brings nothing new to the table, so I haven't even bothered looking at it.

it's fun. it's really fun, actually. it's probably the most fun game i've played that came out this year. it's just so shallow.

Payday 2 was fun and if I want Payday by the numbers, I'd just play that to be honest instead of a new one where we already know they'll DLC it out the ass.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:17 am

Hispida wrote:
New Visayan Islands wrote:I'd go with Hanlon's razor here: never attribute to malice what stupidity can explain away.

given that they were begging for people on twitter not to call them a scam, i think they were a scam.

I seem to recall a message, either on twitter or reddit, from them saying they were working with Steam to get refunds out to people who requested them.
Don't know if anything has come of it, so can't be sure if it's just hot air or sincere, but I expect people to start reporting if they're getting them or not.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:06 am


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Postby The Marineri Islands » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:21 am


Wow. The times really are a-changin'
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Postby Kalaron » Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:07 pm

Kalaron wrote:As a quick warning to everyone, be cautious if you have Nvidia GeForce and are playing Rogue Trader. I don't know if it's a bug that hit me or what, but if you update to driver version 546.33 it'll break your game (All dialogue is now rendered as an empty box)

E: I figured it out. Apparently the game defaulted on all it's settings for audio, mouse-scrolling, and text size....why the default is "0" I genuinely don't know.

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Postby Herador » Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:12 pm

Kalaron wrote:
Kalaron wrote:As a quick warning to everyone, be cautious if you have Nvidia GeForce and are playing Rogue Trader. I don't know if it's a bug that hit me or what, but if you update to driver version 546.33 it'll break your game (All dialogue is now rendered as an empty box)

E: I figured it out. Apparently the game defaulted on all it's settings for audio, mouse-scrolling, and text size....why the default is "0" I genuinely don't know.

That's really strange, I haven't had that issue. How are you liking RT so far though?
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Postby Kalaron » Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:30 pm

Herador wrote:
Kalaron wrote:E: I figured it out. Apparently the game defaulted on all it's settings for audio, mouse-scrolling, and text size....why the default is "0" I genuinely don't know.

That's really strange, I haven't had that issue. How are you liking RT so far though?

So far, it's really good. The world feels immersively terrible, and the decisions that you're forced to make genuinely are dark (though you can always just pull Bullshit Main Character Powers and be a good guy anyhow).

Really the biggest genuine complaint that I have is that there's some stuff you need to learn (Abelard, for instance, is fucking ridiculously strong if you stack him with an Officer-character. Abelard does two attacks per turn (Regular melee, charge), and can get another attack from the Officer using Bring It Down, but that ability doesn't end the Officers turn so if you have high Momentum (a resource you gain from killing minor enemies in each combat) you can give Abelard another turn where he can make four consecutive attacks in a row. So whatever you're trying to kill sort of melts once you learn how the game is meant to be played and start dropping 140 damage per combat on whatever hard target needs killing) rather than the game telling you about it.
...also I wish Psyker was more powerful, because a lot of people will roll a Psyker and immediately get confused because the math on pysker powers is fucking brutal. Your AI companion will always do good damage, because she counts as being one Psy-Rank higher than you (you're sanctioned and thus count as Psy-level 0 until you hit level ten, so until you hit level ten all of your psyker powers that try to deal damage are just dogshit)
Ignite is the basic pyromancer power you get. It deals damage that ranges from 5 * Psy-Level +1 (So at Psy-Level 0, 1 damage) to Willpower Bonus + 5 * Psy-Level (WP = 5 for a dump-stat, so 5 damage) per turn.

So for the first....twenty levels? Your Psyker is actually a Sniper because wasting turns to deal 1-5 (and later, amazingly, 6-10) damage is fucking stupid when a basic Long-Las deals 14-20 damage, reaches across the map, and can easily get 95% accuracy if you put points into your Archetype (Psykers that are fleshy are Operatives)
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Postby Herador » Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:52 pm

Kalaron wrote:...also I wish Psyker was more powerful, because a lot of people will roll a Psyker and immediately get confused because the math on pysker powers is fucking brutal.

I definitely get that. It was a big complaint on the subreddit for a while that psykers seem a tad anemic compared to other damage dealers. I'm glad I went soldier/Archmilitant. I miss being able to do burst damage (though I always keep Argenta around for that), but being able to laser whoever I want on the field with a sniper rifle I got in Footfall is always a good time. My only problem now is that I finally got to Janus and I'm really seeing a difficulty spike. I was able to one-shot most enemies before but now they're putting up much more of a fight.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:42 am

I've not got that far, but I've been mostly using Idira as a support rather than a dps hitting people with the divination buffs, seems to work well paired with the tanky warrior build I'm building for my character.

Using psykers is pretty fun though. I like the mini game of trying to decide whether her abilities are worth the risk of her basically exploding into some kind of warp monster.

I find Argenta is my mvp most of the time. With enough buffs and extra turns, she can be getting like 3-4 bursts off with her bolter in a single round, and the bolter feels great to fire. Sound and visual design really give it a satisfying oomph.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:39 am

Ill probably pick up rogue trader in the new year myself.
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Postby Herador » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:24 am

Alvecia wrote:I've not got that far, but I've been mostly using Idira as a support rather than a dps hitting people with the divination buffs, seems to work well paired with the tanky warrior build I'm building for my character.

Using psykers is pretty fun though. I like the mini game of trying to decide whether her abilities are worth the risk of her basically exploding into some kind of warp monster.

I find Argenta is my mvp most of the time. With enough buffs and extra turns, she can be getting like 3-4 bursts off with her bolter in a single round, and the bolter feels great to fire. Sound and visual design really give it a satisfying oomph.

See, I have beef with Argenta. I know I have the best bolter I can get for her and I know I built her correctly, but she still misses 9/10 times.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:25 am

Herador wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I've not got that far, but I've been mostly using Idira as a support rather than a dps hitting people with the divination buffs, seems to work well paired with the tanky warrior build I'm building for my character.

Using psykers is pretty fun though. I like the mini game of trying to decide whether her abilities are worth the risk of her basically exploding into some kind of warp monster.

I find Argenta is my mvp most of the time. With enough buffs and extra turns, she can be getting like 3-4 bursts off with her bolter in a single round, and the bolter feels great to fire. Sound and visual design really give it a satisfying oomph.

See, I have beef with Argenta. I know I have the best bolter I can get for her and I know I built her correctly, but she still misses 9/10 times.

Yeah, XCOM math is alive and well, that's for damn sure.

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Postby Herador » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:28 am

Alvecia wrote:Yeah, XCOM math is alive and well, that's for damn sure.

At least in XCOM the hit chance on my own dudes wasn't 100%.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:39 am

Herador wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Yeah, XCOM math is alive and well, that's for damn sure.

At least in XCOM the hit chance on my own dudes wasn't 100%.

Lmao. I did end up getting the ability that lets you avoid hitting allies with burst.

I'm treating her more like artillery.
A typical turn is to use what movement I can to get into a good spot, then Controlled Shot/Concentrated Fire for 1 AP each, then Burst Fire for 3 and use Run and Gun for an extra 3 AP, Burst Fire again.
I also took the thing that reduces the kill count required for Revel in Slaughter to 2, so I can usually cleanse the Winded on the turn after.

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Postby Kalaron » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:52 am

Herador wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I've not got that far, but I've been mostly using Idira as a support rather than a dps hitting people with the divination buffs, seems to work well paired with the tanky warrior build I'm building for my character.

Using psykers is pretty fun though. I like the mini game of trying to decide whether her abilities are worth the risk of her basically exploding into some kind of warp monster.

I find Argenta is my mvp most of the time. With enough buffs and extra turns, she can be getting like 3-4 bursts off with her bolter in a single round, and the bolter feels great to fire. Sound and visual design really give it a satisfying oomph.

See, I have beef with Argenta. I know I have the best bolter I can get for her and I know I built her correctly, but she still misses 9/10 times.

My recommendation is to swap the Bolter for a Flamer. It has *much* more consistent damage, she has an active ability that makes her next use of her secondary fire deal double the damage it normally does, and it synergizes much better with Hymm of Furious Recital

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Postby Herador » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:52 pm

Alvecia wrote:Lmao. I did end up getting the ability that lets you avoid hitting allies with burst.

I'm treating her more like artillery.
A typical turn is to use what movement I can to get into a good spot, then Controlled Shot/Concentrated Fire for 1 AP each, then Burst Fire for 3 and use Run and Gun for an extra 3 AP, Burst Fire again.
I also took the thing that reduces the kill count required for Revel in Slaughter to 2, so I can usually cleanse the Winded on the turn after.

I'll try this strat and see if it works out for me.

Kalaron wrote:My recommendation is to swap the Bolter for a Flamer. It has *much* more consistent damage, she has an active ability that makes her next use of her secondary fire deal double the damage it normally does, and it synergizes much better with Hymm of Furious Recital

Where did you find a Flamer? I'm only on Janus but so far I've only seen hand flamers.
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Postby Kalaron » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:59 pm

Herador wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Lmao. I did end up getting the ability that lets you avoid hitting allies with burst.

I'm treating her more like artillery.
A typical turn is to use what movement I can to get into a good spot, then Controlled Shot/Concentrated Fire for 1 AP each, then Burst Fire for 3 and use Run and Gun for an extra 3 AP, Burst Fire again.
I also took the thing that reduces the kill count required for Revel in Slaughter to 2, so I can usually cleanse the Winded on the turn after.

I'll try this strat and see if it works out for me.

Kalaron wrote:My recommendation is to swap the Bolter for a Flamer. It has *much* more consistent damage, she has an active ability that makes her next use of her secondary fire deal double the damage it normally does, and it synergizes much better with Hymm of Furious Recital

Where did you find a Flamer? I'm only on Janus but so far I've only seen hand flamers.

I don't recall exactly where, but I only just got to Footfall on this character, so it was probably on Rykad
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Postby Herador » Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:23 pm

Kalaron wrote:I don't recall exactly where, but I only just got to Footfall on this character, so it was probably on Rykad

I will say though, I didn't expect like like Pasqal as much as I do. I don't normally go for tech-priests but my man is kinda sassy underneath that machine cant.
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Postby Untecna » Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:16 am

Ordered R6 Extraction on Amazon for, like, 10 bucks. Not because I want to play it, but because it promised me operators for Siege. Only having Recruit and Doc to work with is not fun.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:05 am

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Kalaron wrote:It's actually really kind of disgraceful, because the "Please wrap it up" sign came on in the middle of Sven's eulogy for his dead coworker.

Are you serious? Christ. I saw clips of the wrap it up sign but i didnt know it happened during that

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Postby Herador » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:45 pm

Reading what other people are saying about Rogue Trader being broken and my own inability to break the game in half, I am forced to concede what I have always somewhat known: I am bad at video games.
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