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Postby Miku the Based » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:07 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:Et tu

And him what? I don't get this french phrase in the context of this sentence.
Zul-ar wrote:If the assassin is female, she has to seduce men to kill them.

We need a H-game/H-light novel where agent 47 has to seduce his female targets with no other playstyle; killing other people means automatic mission failure. Get that alpha male energy flowing (or switch if you want the male assassin to lose, is a bad guy in the fiction).
There's the typical bond archetype but the female usually allied with the bond and it isn't the target and the bad guy is typically male of which the bond archtype usually just kills in the end.
I see a untapped market here.
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Postby Madrinpoor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:52 am

Miku the Based wrote:
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:Et tu

And him what? I don't get this french phrase in the context of this sentence.
Zul-ar wrote:If the assassin is female, she has to seduce men to kill them.

We need a H-game/H-light novel where agent 47 has to seduce his female targets with no other playstyle; killing other people means automatic mission failure. Get that alpha male energy flowing (or switch if you want the male assassin to lose, is a bad guy in the fiction).
There's the typical bond archetype but the female usually allied with the bond and it isn't the target and the bad guy is typically male of which the bond archtype usually just kills in the end.
I see a untapped market here.

He is saying "and you, Cat in the Hat" because at least the live action Cat in the Hat was not a kids movie (and TRAUMATIZING as a five year old) even though it uses a kids character.
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Postby Riam » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:57 am

There's that cliché that I found reading sci-fi novels from the 70's and 80's that consists in sex whenever a human astronaut or explorer finds a new alien species. It can be casual sex, or it can be that these species use sex to say "good mornig!" and "see you soon!", but sex all the way, very often without really affecting the plot. The explorer is, generally speaking, a male, and the alien is female or something that resembles it.

I mean, I understand it was the 70's, but the amount of that in sci-fi novels from the time still amuses me.

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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:22 am

Riam wrote:There's that cliché that I found reading sci-fi novels from the 70's and 80's that consists in sex whenever a human astronaut or explorer finds a new alien species. It can be casual sex, or it can be that these species use sex to say "good mornig!" and "see you soon!", but sex all the way, very often without really affecting the plot. The explorer is, generally speaking, a male, and the alien is female or something that resembles it.

I mean, I understand it was the 70's, but the amount of that in sci-fi novels from the time still amuses me.


Imagine being able to have perfect sex with aliens.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:28 am

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:I honestly didn't expect this forum to become really popular. I just thought, 'hey, Terrible Writing Advice, but a NationStates forum', and somehow 4200 people have seen this page.

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Postby Chan Island » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:10 pm

Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:I honestly didn't expect this forum to become really popular. I just thought, 'hey, Terrible Writing Advice, but a NationStates forum', and somehow 4200 people have seen this page.

Thanks for your support to the nations posting here!


Well Terrible Writing Advice is very popular for a reason....

Riam wrote:There's that cliché that I found reading sci-fi novels from the 70's and 80's that consists in sex whenever a human astronaut or explorer finds a new alien species. It can be casual sex, or it can be that these species use sex to say "good mornig!" and "see you soon!", but sex all the way, very often without really affecting the plot. The explorer is, generally speaking, a male, and the alien is female or something that resembles it.

I mean, I understand it was the 70's, but the amount of that in sci-fi novels from the time still amuses me.


I see that trope so often on Pornhub, so much hate, it's so unrealistic! :p
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:53 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts wrote:I honestly didn't expect this forum to become really popular. I just thought, 'hey, Terrible Writing Advice, but a NationStates forum', and somehow 4200 people have seen this page.

Thanks for your support to the nations posting here!


Well Terrible Writing Advice is very popular for a reason....

Riam wrote:There's that cliché that I found reading sci-fi novels from the 70's and 80's that consists in sex whenever a human astronaut or explorer finds a new alien species. It can be casual sex, or it can be that these species use sex to say "good mornig!" and "see you soon!", but sex all the way, very often without really affecting the plot. The explorer is, generally speaking, a male, and the alien is female or something that resembles it.

I mean, I understand it was the 70's, but the amount of that in sci-fi novels from the time still amuses me.


I see that trope so often on Pornhub, so much hate, it's so unrealistic! :p


Hol up.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:37 pm

Riam wrote:There's that cliché that I found reading sci-fi novels from the 70's and 80's that consists in sex whenever a human astronaut or explorer finds a new alien species. It can be casual sex, or it can be that these species use sex to say "good mornig!" and "see you soon!", but sex all the way, very often without really affecting the plot. The explorer is, generally speaking, a male, and the alien is female or something that resembles it.

I mean, I understand it was the 70's, but the amount of that in sci-fi novels from the time still amuses me.

And then there are the times that an alien and a human is able to sexually produce a hybrid offspring...

*Looks pointedly at Star Trek*
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Postby Miku the Based » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:12 pm

Madrinpoor wrote:
Miku the Based wrote:And him what? I don't get this french phrase in the context of this sentence.
.

He is saying "and you, Cat in the Hat" because at least the live action Cat in the Hat was not a kids movie (and TRAUMATIZING as a five year old) even though it uses a kids character.

So it's not addressing the user but the movie "cat in the hat"?
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:49 am

Miku the Based wrote:
Madrinpoor wrote:He is saying "and you, Cat in the Hat" because at least the live action Cat in the Hat was not a kids movie (and TRAUMATIZING as a five year old) even though it uses a kids character.

So it's not addressing the user but the movie "cat in the hat"?


I meant, "i'm looking at you, Cat in the hat (2003)," but I do understand that the movie has its fans
and that's perfectly fine.
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Postby Voxija » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:15 pm

Science and logic are often seen as bad in fiction, the province of evil scientists or emotionless robots, while emotion, feelings, and intuition are, while wielded also by villains, mainly the province of the heroes.

Related to this is the thing where the villains have superior technology to the heroes, but that's just to make them a threat.
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Postby Amorosa-Coonarra Coasts » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:57 pm

The big bad corporation. It depends on execution, but it's still annoying when the same motivations exist
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Postby Aeritai » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:32 pm

Common cliche in superhero based movies.

Main Hero: I don't kill people.... We can stop criminals without murder.

Also Main Hero: *Breaks every bone in a bad guy's body making them crippled*
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:42 pm

Voxija wrote:Science and logic are often seen as bad in fiction, the province of evil scientists or emotionless robots, while emotion, feelings, and intuition are, while wielded also by villains, mainly the province of the heroes.

Related to this is the thing where the villains have superior technology to the heroes, but that's just to make them a threat.

Probably because so many writers are humanities nerds... 8) :p
I do enjoy science, though.
Aeritai wrote:Common cliche in superhero based movies.

Main Hero: I don't kill people.... We can stop criminals without murder.

Also Main Hero: *Breaks every bone in a bad guy's body making them crippled*

Hero: "If I kill Doctor von Evilpants, I will be no better than he is."
"I'll destroy his entire lab instead."
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Postby Aeritai » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:51 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Voxija wrote:Science and logic are often seen as bad in fiction, the province of evil scientists or emotionless robots, while emotion, feelings, and intuition are, while wielded also by villains, mainly the province of the heroes.

Related to this is the thing where the villains have superior technology to the heroes, but that's just to make them a threat.

Probably because so many writers are humanities nerds... 8) :p
I do enjoy science, though.
Aeritai wrote:Common cliche in superhero based movies.

Main Hero: I don't kill people.... We can stop criminals without murder.

Also Main Hero: *Breaks every bone in a bad guy's body making them crippled*

Hero: "If I kill Doctor von Evilpants, I will be no better than he is."
"I'll destroy his entire lab instead."


Hero's Sidekick: DUDE! You just killed a bunch of people in that lab! You could've at least got them all out first!
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:54 pm

Aeritai wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Probably because so many writers are humanities nerds... 8) :p
I do enjoy science, though.

Hero: "If I kill Doctor von Evilpants, I will be no better than he is."
"I'll destroy his entire lab instead."

Hero's Sidekick: DUDE! You just killed a bunch of people in that lab! You could've at least got them all out first!

Hero: Sideliner, we have SAVED THE DAY!
Sideliner: Goes along with it because that is how these things work
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Postby Crysuko » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:25 pm

a serial show which after a couple of seasons has a spaghetti of interconnecting plot threads, long having forgotten what the original premise actually was.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:34 am

FREAKING ROMANCE PLOTS. IN EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF FICTION. EVER. I'm not against/averse to romance, but it's soooooo overdone.

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Postby Eahland » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:25 pm

"I have some vitally important information for you that could avert the entire plot! I'll tell you when I get back."
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Postby Kanilina » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:52 pm

There are a lot of things in books that piss me off - when they end like I think they are going to end. Always ticks me off because I think they are going to be different when I start reading them but half way through I realize how it ends. Ugh.

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Postby Aeritai » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:07 pm

Eahland wrote:"I have some vitally important information for you that could avert the entire plot! I'll tell you when I get back."


And then that character gets killed off by the main bad guy before he could tell the protagonist the information.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:15 am

When the (usually geriatric) mentor dies.

Those popular franchises know who they are.
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:56 am

Eahland wrote:"I have some vitally important information for you that could avert the entire plot! I'll tell you when I get back."


"I could summarise my information in about 35 seconds of talking if I'm honest but I will never utter a word of it while we have the dramatic escape scene drags on for ages and ages and then die at the end anyway! Enjoy the next 10 hours of game play!"

The franchise that did it knows which one it is. I'm not naming, but I am shaming.
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