Shazbotdom wrote:
Would you mind putting that in a spoiler just because its a recent episode is all and some people might not have seen it yet.
If you dont mind that is.
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by The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 28, 2022 2:49 am
Shazbotdom wrote:Did anyone else notice that Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers was the Bounty Hunter that kidnapped Leia?
by Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sat May 28, 2022 3:55 pm
by Fedel » Sat May 28, 2022 4:26 pm
Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:So overall I liked it but two things that are bugging me and one thing that might be bugging me in the future. So in the final scene of episode 2 between Kenobi and the 3rd Sister, how does she know Vader is Anakin firstly, as I am fairly certain that was a very closely kept secret with only a handful of people knowing. And secondly, how is it that Obi-Wan has never heard about Vader before now? Sure he was living on Tatooine, but even still word about all the stuff Vader had done must have got out, especially since multiple citizens knew about who the inquisitors were and it was 10 years since ROTS.
Finally my future concern is if they turn the rest of this series to be focused on Leia and Obi-Wan (aka another recluse+child formula). It's getting a bit tiresome now.
by Jedi Council » Sat May 28, 2022 4:44 pm
Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:So overall I liked it but two things that are bugging me and one thing that might be bugging me in the future. So in the final scene of episode 2 between Kenobi and the 3rd Sister, how does she know Vader is Anakin firstly, as I am fairly certain that was a very closely kept secret with only a handful of people knowing. And secondly, how is it that Obi-Wan has never heard about Vader before now? Sure he was living on Tatooine, but even still word about all the stuff Vader had done must have got out, especially since multiple citizens knew about who the inquisitors were and it was 10 years since ROTS.
Finally my future concern is if they turn the rest of this series to be focused on Leia and Obi-Wan (aka another recluse+child formula). It's getting a bit tiresome now.
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by Tarsonis » Sat May 28, 2022 4:55 pm
Jedi Council wrote:Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:So overall I liked it but two things that are bugging me and one thing that might be bugging me in the future. So in the final scene of episode 2 between Kenobi and the 3rd Sister, how does she know Vader is Anakin firstly, as I am fairly certain that was a very closely kept secret with only a handful of people knowing. And secondly, how is it that Obi-Wan has never heard about Vader before now? Sure he was living on Tatooine, but even still word about all the stuff Vader had done must have got out, especially since multiple citizens knew about who the inquisitors were and it was 10 years since ROTS.
Finally my future concern is if they turn the rest of this series to be focused on Leia and Obi-Wan (aka another recluse+child formula). It's getting a bit tiresome now.He surely has heard of Vader - the big reveal was not that Vader existed but that Anakin = Vader. Obi-Wan probably assumed Anakin died on Mustafar and that this "Vader" was a new apprentice that Sidious had found.
by Jedi Council » Sat May 28, 2022 5:05 pm
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by Fedel » Sat May 28, 2022 6:08 pm
Jedi Council wrote:Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:So overall I liked it but two things that are bugging me and one thing that might be bugging me in the future. So in the final scene of episode 2 between Kenobi and the 3rd Sister, how does she know Vader is Anakin firstly, as I am fairly certain that was a very closely kept secret with only a handful of people knowing. And secondly, how is it that Obi-Wan has never heard about Vader before now? Sure he was living on Tatooine, but even still word about all the stuff Vader had done must have got out, especially since multiple citizens knew about who the inquisitors were and it was 10 years since ROTS.
Finally my future concern is if they turn the rest of this series to be focused on Leia and Obi-Wan (aka another recluse+child formula). It's getting a bit tiresome now.He surely has heard of Vader - the big reveal was not that Vader existed but that Anakin = Vader. Obi-Wan probably assumed Anakin died on Mustafar and that this "Vader" was a new apprentice that Sidious had found.
by Cannot think of a name » Sat May 28, 2022 6:12 pm
Jedi Council wrote:Tarsonis wrote:
not the way they played that scene howeverYou're right, I forgot the Temple recording did mention Vader in ROTS so Obi-Wan should know who he is.
Not entirely impossible to imagine that a hermit would not have heard of Vader, especially since he does not appear to do anything but work, sleep, and watch Luke. Not impossible, but not likely either.
by Tarsonis » Sat May 28, 2022 8:00 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Jedi Council wrote:You're right, I forgot the Temple recording did mention Vader in ROTS so Obi-Wan should know who he is.
Not entirely impossible to imagine that a hermit would not have heard of Vader, especially since he does not appear to do anything but work, sleep, and watch Luke. Not impossible, but not likely either.Spoiled I guess...
When we first see Darth Vader in Star Wars Darth Vader isn't the one in charge, that's Grand Mof Tarkin. Furthermore, the Mofs and generals don't think much of The Force, at least not enough to not taunt the guy who can choke you out with his mind.
This seems to indicate that Vader is more of an enforcer figure who still has another ten years to become the person whose leash is held by Tarkin.
So it would make sense that the people in the outer whatsit...planets? Rim? I forgot...won't know the palace intrigue part of the Empire but they would know about these Force using assholes that keep showing up looking for Jedi. Since Kenobi has been avoiding anything that would possibly hint at who he is he's also avoiding people who are let's call it politically active. I mean, he is a top general for the old Republic and Jedi Order, he has to hang out with people who don't know who the fuck he is and therefore reasonable to think they also don't know who the fuck Vader is.
I mean, he wouldn't let that apprentice get a request out without just telling him to pound sand. He's clearly avoiding anything Empire or Force lest he get discovered or worse, Luke does. These people are like the mud farmers in Holy Grail who hadn't heard of King Arthur. They even tell the Inquisitors that the Empire has no jurisdiction there. So it's not even technically an Empire held planet, just one they can go to and do what they want because who can stop them, which is still different.
EDIT: Why do I suck at spoiler tags so much...
by Cannot think of a name » Sat May 28, 2022 9:05 pm
Tarsonis wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Spoiled I guess...
When we first see Darth Vader in Star Wars Darth Vader isn't the one in charge, that's Grand Mof Tarkin. Furthermore, the Mofs and generals don't think much of The Force, at least not enough to not taunt the guy who can choke you out with his mind.
This seems to indicate that Vader is more of an enforcer figure who still has another ten years to become the person whose leash is held by Tarkin.
So it would make sense that the people in the outer whatsit...planets? Rim? I forgot...won't know the palace intrigue part of the Empire but they would know about these Force using assholes that keep showing up looking for Jedi. Since Kenobi has been avoiding anything that would possibly hint at who he is he's also avoiding people who are let's call it politically active. I mean, he is a top general for the old Republic and Jedi Order, he has to hang out with people who don't know who the fuck he is and therefore reasonable to think they also don't know who the fuck Vader is.
I mean, he wouldn't let that apprentice get a request out without just telling him to pound sand. He's clearly avoiding anything Empire or Force lest he get discovered or worse, Luke does. These people are like the mud farmers in Holy Grail who hadn't heard of King Arthur. They even tell the Inquisitors that the Empire has no jurisdiction there. So it's not even technically an Empire held planet, just one they can go to and do what they want because who can stop them, which is still different.
EDIT: Why do I suck at spoiler tags so much...
This is more or less how i viewed the power structure of the Empire.
Originally you had the Emperor and the Imperial senate, with military regions of command and control. Vader does what he wants.
In ANH, senate is dissolved, Local Moffs now have governing control as well. Grand Moff Tarkin makes the DS his command center, with complete control of the Military and Vader does what ever he wants.
I don't think Vader is beneath Tarkin, just Tarkin is more or less an equal with him, like Hux and Kylo are technically equals. "Release him" is the only "command" Tarkin ever gives Vader, and the impression I get is it's less an order and more Tarkin telling his equal to stop bullying his subordinates. Given their long history together, Tarkin knows what he can get away with with. Hence Vader's sassy "as you wish"
Later you see Tarkin is resigned to following Vaders plan of letting them escape, he doesn't like it, but he doesn't have a better idea so he's following.
Once Tarkin is dead, Vader takes a much more hands on role in managing the military.
In Rogue one, it's implied that Vader outranks Tarkin, as when Krennic goes to complain to Vader about Tarkin, this Krennic going over Tarkin's head to an extent.
by Jedi Council » Sat May 28, 2022 9:22 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Tarsonis wrote:
This is more or less how i viewed the power structure of the Empire.
Originally you had the Emperor and the Imperial senate, with military regions of command and control. Vader does what he wants.
In ANH, senate is dissolved, Local Moffs now have governing control as well. Grand Moff Tarkin makes the DS his command center, with complete control of the Military and Vader does what ever he wants.
I don't think Vader is beneath Tarkin, just Tarkin is more or less an equal with him, like Hux and Kylo are technically equals. "Release him" is the only "command" Tarkin ever gives Vader, and the impression I get is it's less an order and more Tarkin telling his equal to stop bullying his subordinates. Given their long history together, Tarkin knows what he can get away with with. Hence Vader's sassy "as you wish"
Later you see Tarkin is resigned to following Vaders plan of letting them escape, he doesn't like it, but he doesn't have a better idea so he's following.
Once Tarkin is dead, Vader takes a much more hands on role in managing the military.
In Rogue one, it's implied that Vader outranks Tarkin, as when Krennic goes to complain to Vader about Tarkin, this Krennic going over Tarkin's head to an extent.
I think it is more of an advisor observer kind of thing. Grand Moff Tarkin has command of the Death Star and complete military authority like a captain or admiral would on their ship. At the beginning of Star Wars (for some reason I hate calling it "A New Hope") Vader is tasked with ferreting out traitors and rebel cells and observe the Death Star project. As a Sith Lord he has no official military role, but instead the 'civilian' authority of the Emperor. So Tarkin is in charge on paper but there is a clear understanding of who in the room has the ear and will of the Emperor.
One of the reasons I don't like Rogue One as everyone else seems to is the way he approaches Leia's ship in Star Wars doesn't really line up with him literally looking at the ship, like I feel he doesn't say "I saw your ass with the rebel fleet" or "Really? Diplomatic?" (holds up severed head) "Then why did I see Carl here slam the door shut on me when I was chasing down those plans?"
But whatever. That's not my biggest problem with it. I guess i'm inverted with the fanbase because I thought Rogue One was uneven but rather liked Solo aside from the unnecessary origins (I didn't need to see him get a last name or come up with a nickname for Chewbacca..)
Speaking of out of sync, if you're not a fan of Rebels...a whole lot of them are coming to Ahsoka, so far that droid I forgot the name of all of a sudden, Sabine. Others...Chopper...that's its name. I rather like that it won't get back in a Y wing, I liked that detail. Celebrate or complain as you see fit. Or you've already mentioned this and I missed it.
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by Sordhau » Sat May 28, 2022 9:26 pm
Jedi Council wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:I think it is more of an advisor observer kind of thing. Grand Moff Tarkin has command of the Death Star and complete military authority like a captain or admiral would on their ship. At the beginning of Star Wars (for some reason I hate calling it "A New Hope") Vader is tasked with ferreting out traitors and rebel cells and observe the Death Star project. As a Sith Lord he has no official military role, but instead the 'civilian' authority of the Emperor. So Tarkin is in charge on paper but there is a clear understanding of who in the room has the ear and will of the Emperor.
One of the reasons I don't like Rogue One as everyone else seems to is the way he approaches Leia's ship in Star Wars doesn't really line up with him literally looking at the ship, like I feel he doesn't say "I saw your ass with the rebel fleet" or "Really? Diplomatic?" (holds up severed head) "Then why did I see Carl here slam the door shut on me when I was chasing down those plans?"
But whatever. That's not my biggest problem with it. I guess i'm inverted with the fanbase because I thought Rogue One was uneven but rather liked Solo aside from the unnecessary origins (I didn't need to see him get a last name or come up with a nickname for Chewbacca..)
Speaking of out of sync, if you're not a fan of Rebels...a whole lot of them are coming to Ahsoka, so far that droid I forgot the name of all of a sudden, Sabine. Others...Chopper...that's its name. I rather like that it won't get back in a Y wing, I liked that detail. Celebrate or complain as you see fit. Or you've already mentioned this and I missed it.
To be entirely honest, I probably did not give Rebels enough of a chance. I just could not get past the art style, really not my cup of tea.
by Cannot think of a name » Sat May 28, 2022 9:27 pm
Jedi Council wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:I think it is more of an advisor observer kind of thing. Grand Moff Tarkin has command of the Death Star and complete military authority like a captain or admiral would on their ship. At the beginning of Star Wars (for some reason I hate calling it "A New Hope") Vader is tasked with ferreting out traitors and rebel cells and observe the Death Star project. As a Sith Lord he has no official military role, but instead the 'civilian' authority of the Emperor. So Tarkin is in charge on paper but there is a clear understanding of who in the room has the ear and will of the Emperor.
One of the reasons I don't like Rogue One as everyone else seems to is the way he approaches Leia's ship in Star Wars doesn't really line up with him literally looking at the ship, like I feel he doesn't say "I saw your ass with the rebel fleet" or "Really? Diplomatic?" (holds up severed head) "Then why did I see Carl here slam the door shut on me when I was chasing down those plans?"
But whatever. That's not my biggest problem with it. I guess i'm inverted with the fanbase because I thought Rogue One was uneven but rather liked Solo aside from the unnecessary origins (I didn't need to see him get a last name or come up with a nickname for Chewbacca..)
Speaking of out of sync, if you're not a fan of Rebels...a whole lot of them are coming to Ahsoka, so far that droid I forgot the name of all of a sudden, Sabine. Others...Chopper...that's its name. I rather like that it won't get back in a Y wing, I liked that detail. Celebrate or complain as you see fit. Or you've already mentioned this and I missed it.
To be entirely honest, I probably did not give Rebels enough of a chance. I just could not get past the art style, really not my cup of tea.
by Bralia » Sun May 29, 2022 6:40 am
Jedi Council wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:I think it is more of an advisor observer kind of thing. Grand Moff Tarkin has command of the Death Star and complete military authority like a captain or admiral would on their ship. At the beginning of Star Wars (for some reason I hate calling it "A New Hope") Vader is tasked with ferreting out traitors and rebel cells and observe the Death Star project. As a Sith Lord he has no official military role, but instead the 'civilian' authority of the Emperor. So Tarkin is in charge on paper but there is a clear understanding of who in the room has the ear and will of the Emperor.
One of the reasons I don't like Rogue One as everyone else seems to is the way he approaches Leia's ship in Star Wars doesn't really line up with him literally looking at the ship, like I feel he doesn't say "I saw your ass with the rebel fleet" or "Really? Diplomatic?" (holds up severed head) "Then why did I see Carl here slam the door shut on me when I was chasing down those plans?"
But whatever. That's not my biggest problem with it. I guess i'm inverted with the fanbase because I thought Rogue One was uneven but rather liked Solo aside from the unnecessary origins (I didn't need to see him get a last name or come up with a nickname for Chewbacca..)
Speaking of out of sync, if you're not a fan of Rebels...a whole lot of them are coming to Ahsoka, so far that droid I forgot the name of all of a sudden, Sabine. Others...Chopper...that's its name. I rather like that it won't get back in a Y wing, I liked that detail. Celebrate or complain as you see fit. Or you've already mentioned this and I missed it.
To be entirely honest, I probably did not give Rebels enough of a chance. I just could not get past the art style, really not my cup of tea.
by Imperial Rifta » Sun May 29, 2022 8:50 am
Shazbotdom wrote:Did anyone else notice that Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers was the Bounty Hunter that kidnapped Leia?
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by Jedi Council » Sun May 29, 2022 8:53 am
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by Imperial Rifta » Sun May 29, 2022 8:57 am
Jedi Council wrote:Bralia wrote:They made lightsabers look like toothpicks. Literally. Why???
It was apparently inspired by the concept art for the original series.
I like a good homage as much as anyone else but they look like they are swinging oversized needles, not lightsabers. I can't stand it.
Which is unfortunate - Rebels has some interesting characters and plot lines. If it looked half as good as TCW I'd have been able to stomach it.
News: The Riftan Professional Bailball League’s playoffs begin and the headlines are stolen by the massive upset by the Etnasa Warhorses over the Proxima Purple Knights in the first round. Meanwhile, the Sarif Beasts topple the Cesar Red after a low scoring game culminating in a one-point victory.
by The Huskar Social Union » Sun May 29, 2022 9:00 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Sun May 29, 2022 12:18 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sun May 29, 2022 3:28 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I liked Rebels despite initially not being that fussed on it, the animation style was one of my original problems but it grew on me over time. The lightsabers never bothered me that much personally.
by Ameriganastan » Sun May 29, 2022 4:02 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Twilight Imperium » Sun May 29, 2022 4:21 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:The toothpick lightsabers were the least of Rebels problems. The crappy cast of characters, bad writing and utter bullshit end of Maul seemed more of an issue to me.
by Ameriganastan » Sun May 29, 2022 4:27 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Tarsonis » Sun May 29, 2022 4:41 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Though speaking of Rebels, say hi to your live action Sabine.
by Sordhau » Sun May 29, 2022 5:26 pm
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