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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun May 16, 2021 8:49 am

Fedel wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:You were reported for insulting other players and breaking the rules. And that's why you were substantly banned. THINK, MARK.
If you hadn't actually broken any rules, they could have reported every post you made and they would have gotten the mod action for frivolous actions. But go read your judgment again, RP cited eight examples of you actions leading to deletion.

You can express regret all you want, but the simple fact is you made the posts flaming other players, and you got payed the penalty. All this ranting about justice is just window dressing. You'll point the finger at everyone else before you point it at yourself.


If I "broke the rules" I didn't so to any greater degree then the people on this forum do EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. The truth of the matter is that the the rules on this forum are essentially left as vague as humanly possible ( I.E. baiting: posts that don't break any specific rules but SEEM to be trying to get a rise out of somebody else ). I mean, you can't get much more transparent without saying it outright:

"Moderation can ban whoever they like, whenever they like for whatever reason they like. Period."

Oh and there is a particular bent. And they do favor particular people who hold specific beliefs and positions over others and you're a fool if you think otherwise.

THINK TARDONIS. THINK.

I already stated I made my mistakes and recognize them. That doesn't make me ignorant to the evils committed by others.

And, yet you're still whinging about "losing the nation that you made with your father." like Indigo Mantoya. As if everybody on this forum wronged you. Nobody is to blame for it, except you. Not the moderators. Not the people reported you. You are. Just, you.

Tarsonis wrote:Cut the bullshit. You can't con a con man. I'm as bullheaded, stubborn, and self righteous as they come. You're not standing on principle you're standing on your wounded ego. You didn't make a principled stand, You took an opportunity to make petty shots at Bralia. Ffs lie to everyone, but never lie to yourself.


I'm not taking shots at Bralia. I'm giving them the truth. Notice how Huskar hasn't denied anything. You could argue they're not online, but feel free to ask them directly either through TG's or here after this whole fiasco.


It doesn't matter if Huskar actually did it or not. TGs are private. To bring that into the public is some meangirls level, passive aggressive bullshit. This is of course only is compounded then laying flame on top of. That is, as you failed to comprehend in the mod report, why you have been reported for that comment. Not for Huskar's views, what ever they may be but for this:

"You make quite a few enemies with the way you conduct yourself on the forum. You even inspire distaste in those you view as your supporters. But that's typical for your sort. As is the lack of awareness of such."

You might think it's the "truth," but here it's borderline flaming and bait.


You bring this all on yourself and then have then nerve to accuse others of the crimes that you yourself our guilty of.
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 16, 2021 8:50 am

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Heloin wrote:I meant to start watching Bad batch yesterday but the gf was busy and I watched Phantom Menace instead. I still don't know if I like that movie.


Honestly. I think it's got a strong emotional core. Liam Neeson carries that movie as Qui-Gon.

I enjoy my time with it every time I watch it, but then I'll hate it while watching since I can see where little improvements could make the whole even stronger.

I remember every line from the film in order from memory so I think I'll just have to accept one of these days that I actually like it.

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Postby Fedel » Sun May 16, 2021 8:56 am

Tarsonis wrote:And, yet you're still whinging about "losing the nation that you made with your father." like Indigo Mantoya. As if everybody on this forum wronged you. Nobody is to blame for it, except you. Not the moderators. Not the people reported you. You are. Just, you.


Because nearly every post I made during that time, both worthy of being reported and not, was reported. This was done in order to get me removed, as is happening now. You can recognize your own faults while recognizing the faults of others. The world is not black and white my friend.

Tarsonis wrote:It doesn't matter if Huskar actually did it or not. TGs are private. To bring that into the public is some meangirls level, passive aggressive bullshit.


Are you attempting to flame and bait Huskar now?

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Tarsonis wrote:To bring that into the public is some meangirls level, passive aggressive bullshit. This is of course only is compounded then laying flame on top of. That is, as you failed to comprehend in the mod report, why you have been reported for that comment. Not for Huskar's views, what ever they may be but for this:

"You make quite a few enemies with the way you conduct yourself on the forum. You even inspire distaste in those you view as your supporters. But that's typical for your sort. As is the lack of awareness of such."

You might think it's the "truth," but here it's borderline flaming and bait.


This is literally an explanation of the situation. Bralia was unaware of the distaste she had inspired in Huskar which lead to her ignorance as to why a situation played out the way that it did. The fact that this is the case means that people like her do possess the traits I stated. "Borderline flaming and bait" means nothing. You can't determine the intent of someone else without knowing the mind of that person. Taking action that basis is the result of a biased judgement, nothing else.
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Postby Fedel » Sun May 16, 2021 8:59 am

Heloin wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Honestly. I think it's got a strong emotional core. Liam Neeson carries that movie as Qui-Gon.

I enjoy my time with it every time I watch it, but then I'll hate it while watching since I can see where little improvements could make the whole even stronger.

I remember every line from the film in order from memory so I think I'll just have to accept one of these days that I actually like it.


Yeah, I've generally come to terms with my own enjoyment of that film. It has its flaws but it has a certain impactful weight to it as well. Scenes like Anakin having to leave his mother honestly make me tear up and I was never as against the idea of midichlorians as many other fans were at the time ( the Plagueis novel written by James Luceno does a great job at fleshing them out as a mechanic by which the Force and Force user's operate ).
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 16, 2021 9:04 am

Fedel wrote:
Heloin wrote:I enjoy my time with it every time I watch it, but then I'll hate it while watching since I can see where little improvements could make the whole even stronger.

I remember every line from the film in order from memory so I think I'll just have to accept one of these days that I actually like it.


Yeah, I've generally come to terms with my own enjoyment of that film. It has its flaws but it has a certain impactful weight to it as well. Scenes like Anakin having to leave his mother honestly make me tear up and I was never as against the idea of midichlorians as many other fans were at the time ( the Plagueis novel written by James Luceno does a great job at fleshing them out as a mechanic by which the Force and Force user's function ).

I still am firmly against midichlorians as a concept. It does lead to the most video gamey sounding bit of dialogue with Master, sir, I heard Yoda talking about midichlorians. I’ve been wondering, what are midichlorians? Cracks me up every time.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun May 16, 2021 9:06 am

Alright i threw him on ignore but seeing what Tarsonis is saying im responding to this bullshit for the final time.

I do not have Distaste towards bralia actually, i said to you that me and her got into a spat around the same time which she initiated and i thought was completely undeserved (It was a dumb argument over preorders in the paradox thread) and that sometimes she can be very zealous in how she acts towards people, some times undeservedly so citing the spat we had but that is long done and i hold absolutely nothing against her and she is absolutely not my enemy which is easily one of the most pathetic things you have said in this thread as a final act of trying to sow some discord in this thread.

So dont try and twist my words and imply that i dislike her because its a load of bollocks now grow up.

And another thing i told you exactly how i felt about you to your face in those tgs, which was very negative so why dont you add that in for the full context next time you make yourself out to be a victim or imply that i was on your side.
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Postby Fedel » Sun May 16, 2021 9:07 am

Heloin wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Yeah, I've generally come to terms with my own enjoyment of that film. It has its flaws but it has a certain impactful weight to it as well. Scenes like Anakin having to leave his mother honestly make me tear up and I was never as against the idea of midichlorians as many other fans were at the time ( the Plagueis novel written by James Luceno does a great job at fleshing them out as a mechanic by which the Force and Force user's function ).

I still am firmly against midichlorians as a concept. It does lead to the most video gamey sounding bit of dialogue with Master, sir, I heard Yoda talking about midichlorians. I’ve been wondering, what are midichlorians? Cracks me up every time.


I know a lot of people liked the idea of the Force more as this cosmic spiritual thing, but for me a biological mechanic like midichlorians doesn't take away from that as much as I think it does for others. Then again, I'm a sucker for power systems.

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Postby Fedel » Sun May 16, 2021 9:09 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:i said to you that me and her got into a spat around the same time which she initiated and i thought was completely undeserved (It was a dumb argument over preorders in the paradox thread) and that sometimes she can be very zealous in how she acts towards people, some times undeservedly so citing the spat we had


Translation: I expressed a distaste for Bralia in TG's we exchanged.

He won't see this but I appreciate Huskar's honesty in confirming my statements.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun May 16, 2021 9:11 am

Locked for review.

I am not entirely pleased that I'm having to treat an A&F thread on Star Wars the same way as I might have to treat an NSG thread.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun May 16, 2021 9:21 am

Right... my thoughts are as follows:

I'm not going to slap any of you with formal moderator action, but I'm disappointed in several of you.

1) Fedel, I'd recommend taking a deep breath, gaining some sense of perspective, and perhaps dropping the melodramatic victim complex.

2) Huskar, if you have someone on ignore, ignore them; even when someone else quotes their posts so you see them after all. Just let it go.

3) Tarsonis, you weren't helping; there was no need to drop yourself into someone else's argument.

Now, I'm going to leave this thread locked for as long as it takes me to complete a match on Football Manager 2019 to give you all a chance to calm down (2026 English champions Walsall have just been drawn in the Champions League alongside Atletico Madrid, Napoli, and CSKA Moscow).

When I unlock the thread again, I want to see all of you discussing Star Wars - not who did what to whom in the past.

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Postby Heloin » Sun May 16, 2021 9:47 am

Fedel wrote:
Heloin wrote:I still am firmly against midichlorians as a concept. It does lead to the most video gamey sounding bit of dialogue with Master, sir, I heard Yoda talking about midichlorians. I’ve been wondering, what are midichlorians? Cracks me up every time.


I know a lot of people liked the idea of the Force more as this cosmic spiritual thing, but for me a biological mechanic like midichlorians doesn't take away from that as much as I think it does for others. Then again, I'm a sucker for power systems.

The problem I have is it goes from space magic, which I can deal with, to the worst kind of technobabble. Star Wars isn't like Star Trek for me, I've not read many of the books, so I'm going purely off the movies. To me the addition of midichlorians didn't explain enough to satisfy that tick it was intended to while taking away from the suspension of disbelief I already made for space magic.

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Postby Odreria » Sun May 16, 2021 9:47 am

well I didn’t like the sequels either
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Postby Fedel » Sun May 16, 2021 9:51 am

Heloin wrote:
Fedel wrote:
I know a lot of people liked the idea of the Force more as this cosmic spiritual thing, but for me a biological mechanic like midichlorians doesn't take away from that as much as I think it does for others. Then again, I'm a sucker for power systems.

The problem I have is it goes from space magic, which I can deal with, to the worst kind of technobabble. Star Wars isn't like Star Trek for me, I've not read many of the books, so I'm going purely off the movies. To me the addition of midichlorians didn't explain enough to satisfy that tick it was intended to while taking away from the suspension of disbelief I already made for space magic.


Honestly, that's pretty fair. That's why the EU was go great. It did a lot to fill in the blank spots that the movies either forgot or simply didn't have time to cover. The RotS novelization for examples goes into WHY Anakin wants to be made a master. He wants the title to gain access to sections of the Jedi archives that might give him information on how to save his wife ( and the visions he has of her dying are implied to be planted there by Sidious himself ). The added context make the tragedy of the movie that much greater. It's also just an incredibly well written novel. Reading the RotS novelization honestly makes watching the movies at least twice as enjoyable as it would be to me otherwise.
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Postby Just-An-Illusion » Sun May 16, 2021 10:22 am

Wow the fact that this thread got locked by mod... Is really disappointing. Like we could've avoided all of this, but we didn't.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Sun May 16, 2021 10:47 am

Just-An-Illusion wrote:Wow the fact that this thread got locked by mod... Is really disappointing. Like we could've avoided all of this, but we didn't.

It’s a nice flashback to 2018 :^)
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Postby Fedel » Sun May 16, 2021 10:54 am

The Archregimancy wrote:When I unlock the thread again, I want to see all of you discussing Star Wars - not who did what to whom in the past.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Sun May 16, 2021 10:55 am

Heloin wrote:I meant to start watching Bad batch yesterday but the gf was busy and I watched Phantom Menace instead. I still don't know if I like that movie.

You know, as corny as their advertising arc in the last season of Clone Wars was, and as frustrating it is that every successful SW show these days is apparently going to be turned into advertising space for other shows, I like that Bad Batch appears to be setting up what happened to the clones at large. Clone episodes were always the best part of CW.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun May 16, 2021 10:59 am

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Heloin wrote:I meant to start watching Bad batch yesterday but the gf was busy and I watched Phantom Menace instead. I still don't know if I like that movie.

You know, as corny as their advertising arc in the last season of Clone Wars was, and as frustrating it is that every successful SW show these days is apparently going to be turned into advertising space for other shows, I like that Bad Batch appears to be setting up what happened to the clones at large. Clone episodes were always the best part of CW.

By a country mile.

Clones in that show were amazing.
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Postby Imperial Rifta » Sun May 16, 2021 11:06 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:You know, as corny as their advertising arc in the last season of Clone Wars was, and as frustrating it is that every successful SW show these days is apparently going to be turned into advertising space for other shows, I like that Bad Batch appears to be setting up what happened to the clones at large. Clone episodes were always the best part of CW.

By a country mile.

Clones in that show were amazing.

Undoubtedly.
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 16, 2021 7:30 pm

Qui-Gon should've gotten his own series.

Him and Maul were the 2 most interesting things the prequels did, and while we have gotten great material from Maul, Qui-Gon is still lacking.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sun May 16, 2021 8:25 pm

New haven america wrote:Qui-Gon should've gotten his own series.

Him and Maul were the 2 most interesting things the prequels did, and while we have gotten great material from Maul, Qui-Gon is still lacking.

A show about Qui-Gon's time as a Padawan under Dooku could be pretty epic.
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Postby New haven america » Sun May 16, 2021 8:30 pm

Idzequitch wrote:
New haven america wrote:Qui-Gon should've gotten his own series.

Him and Maul were the 2 most interesting things the prequels did, and while we have gotten great material from Maul, Qui-Gon is still lacking.

A show about Qui-Gon's time as a Padawan under Dooku could be pretty epic.

I was thinking it could follow his life up until TPM.

1 or 2 seasons as a Padawan, 1 or 2 seasons as a knight and his relationship with Tahl, and 1 or 2 seasons about his adventures with Obi-Wan (That they hinted at in TPM but never went into detail).
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun May 16, 2021 8:50 pm

Idzequitch wrote:
New haven america wrote:Qui-Gon should've gotten his own series.

Him and Maul were the 2 most interesting things the prequels did, and while we have gotten great material from Maul, Qui-Gon is still lacking.

A show about Qui-Gon's time as a Padawan under Dooku could be pretty epic.

Only if they got Liam Neeson to play him again.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon May 17, 2021 7:07 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:A show about Qui-Gon's time as a Padawan under Dooku could be pretty epic.

Only if they got Liam Neeson to play him again.


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