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Posted: **Sun May 02, 2021 11:15 am**

Fedel wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
It doesn't.

But it confuses me. It just doesn't sense.

If the same people at Lucas arts green lit lego holiday special, then why not green light skywalker saga over hair colour of all things?

Very possibly changes to its PR and brand image goals in order to help soften the public perception to these films in the long term. Who knows.

Over the course of a handful of months they changed stance from "ok to make fun of the st" to "not ok to make fun of the st"?

It just doesn't make sense. Plus it would look worse in the long run to try and block creative freedom for the writers of lego starwars. It would give the game a bad rep and would lead to the streisand effect. Makeing the movies have a bad public image beacuse of them blocking parody.

Posted: **Sun May 02, 2021 11:37 am**

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Fedel wrote:
Very possibly changes to its PR and brand image goals in order to help soften the public perception to these films in the long term. Who knows.

Over the course of a handful of months they changed stance from "ok to make fun of the st" to "not ok to make fun of the st"?

It just doesn't make sense. Plus it would look worse in the long run to try and block creative freedom for the writers of lego starwars. It would give the game a bad rep and would lead to the streisand effect. Makeing the movies have a bad public image beacuse of them blocking parody.

I don't think many of the decisions by the people who run Star Wars have "made sense" in terms of maximizing profit and seeding the franchise for long term future prospects so I think such a decision would be right in line with what we've seen from the company and their policy makers thus far.

One could reasonably make the case that this would reflect badly on the people who made the decision ( who generally don't give a shit how they're viewed ) for the most part and not really on the movies themselves and that the long term effect of suppressing criticism making it so that people are less aware or reactive to the flaws of those movies in general would be viewed as a valid tradeoff as the sequels could be used as a sort of blank canvas of "popular scifi" for people to project their views onto ( something that's kind of already happening with Reylo shippers and the majority of people I see discussing the Sequel Trilogy ).

Posted: **Sun May 02, 2021 11:38 am**

Gotta say, not really interested in continuing this balooning conversation. I made a passing comment you didn't like, think it would better for both of us if you just let it go.

I'll oblige you whichever path you choose though.

Posted: **Sun May 02, 2021 11:54 am**

Fedel wrote:Gotta say, not really interested in continuing this balooning conversation. I made a passing comment you didn't like, think it would better for both of us if you just let it go.

I'll oblige you whichever path you choose though.

I think I'll let it go.

But I didn't dislike your comment, It didn't and still doesn't make sense to me.

Long term enjoyment rides on things like videogames being enjoyed in both long term and short term.

So really a backlash over just ST in lego starwars skywalker saga would just sour the mood of consumers now and into the future.

Looking at the actions of Lucas arts a hand full of months ago, I really doubt that tentions would flare beacuse of not being able to make fun of something in a game series that has allways made fun of the things it works on.

I don't see how Raylo shipers have anything to do with this.

But I think its best if we agree to dissagree here.

You made a statement you are sticking too, and despite me not understanding it I can respect your statement.

Posted: **Sun May 02, 2021 12:02 pm**

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Fedel wrote:Gotta say, not really interested in continuing this balooning conversation. I made a passing comment you didn't like, think it would better for both of us if you just let it go.

I'll oblige you whichever path you choose though.

I think I'll let it go.

But I didn't dislike your comment, It didn't and still doesn't make sense to me.

Long term enjoyment rides on things like videogames being enjoyed in both long term and short term.

So really a backlash over just ST in lego starwars skywalker saga would just sour the mood of consumers now and into the future.

Looking at the actions of Lucas arts a hand full of months ago, I really doubt that tentions would flare beacuse of not being able to make fun of something in a game series that has allways made fun of the things it works on.

I don't see how Raylo shipers have anything to do with this.

But I think its best if we agree to dissagree here.

You made a statement you are sticking too, and despite me not understanding it I can respect your statement.

"I think I'll let it go."

*Immediately after making this statement, doesn't let it go*

Ok.

Posted: **Sun May 02, 2021 12:07 pm**

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Fedel wrote:Gotta say, not really interested in continuing this balooning conversation. I made a passing comment you didn't like, think it would better for both of us if you just let it go.

I'll oblige you whichever path you choose though.

But I didn't dislike your comment, It didn't and still doesn't make sense to me.

Long term enjoyment rides on things like videogames being enjoyed in both long term and short term. So really a backlash over just ST in lego starwars skywalker saga would just sour the mood of consumers now and into the future.

Looking at the actions of Lucas arts a hand full of months ago, I really doubt that tentions would flare beacuse of not being able to make fun of something in a game series that has allways made fun of the things it works on.

I don't see how Raylo shipers have anything to do with this.

But I think its best if we agree to dissagree here. You made a statement you are sticking too, and despite me not understanding it I can respect your statement.

I think long term enjoyment of something does hinge on good products but I think they know those products are unsalvageable due to core flaws inherent to the movies. What I believe they really want to happen at this point is for the backlash to disappear or at least the public perception of backlash so that era can be used as a kind of playground for the fans ( not a true thing to be appreciated, talked about or admired on its own merits like the other eras ).

A key difference is that the ST wasn't the focus in that product. In a product that is specifically spoofing the thing itself they might seek to be more careful about what they're spoofing.

Bringing up Reylo fans was just an example to my point. That being the main passion you see for the sequel trilogy stuff has tended to be for ideas and concepts that the fans themselves have come up with as opposed to any real celebration of those movie's actual content.

Yes, I agree with that statement.

Posted: **Sun May 02, 2021 1:37 pm**

Fedel wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
I think I'll let it go.

But I didn't dislike your comment, It didn't and still doesn't make sense to me.

Long term enjoyment rides on things like videogames being enjoyed in both long term and short term.

So really a backlash over just ST in lego starwars skywalker saga would just sour the mood of consumers now and into the future.

Looking at the actions of Lucas arts a hand full of months ago, I really doubt that tentions would flare beacuse of not being able to make fun of something in a game series that has allways made fun of the things it works on.

I don't see how Raylo shipers have anything to do with this.

But I think its best if we agree to dissagree here.

You made a statement you are sticking too, and despite me not understanding it I can respect your statement.

"I think I'll let it go."

*Immediately after making this statement, doesn't let it go*

Ok.

I didn't mean it like that, just wanted to give my closeing statements on the matter.

Posted: **Sun May 02, 2021 3:26 pm**

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Fedel wrote:
"I think I'll let it go."

*Immediately after making this statement, doesn't let it go*

Ok.

I didn't mean it like that, just wanted to give my closeing statements on the matter.

Mhmmm.

Posted: **Mon May 03, 2021 8:39 am**

Popping into a quick Fallen Order game before the Mass Effect remaster drops and I had a stray thought come back to me:

Another part of the reason why I loved The Clone Wars was the fact the Empire wasn't built in a day. Literally. The imposing Imperial architecture was there, throughout the Republic era. The most iconic being the everything about the Venators. I was not expecting to see such a close similarity between those old ships and the Death Star we see in Episode 4. Even the klaxon alarms were the same, I think. And then there was the Republic military court that really stood out, too. It was really cool to see just how much of the "basic infrastructure" of the Empire was just always there. All of these designs, so very sterile and imposing, were never "actually" designed with the Empire in mind.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 1:28 am**

So. Bad Batch EP1.

That was a thing.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 2:09 am**

Ill update this as i watch more of the episode

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 4:06 am**

Happy May 4th. Once I’m off mobile and have time I will be setting up a poll about Bad Batch.

Edit: New Poll is up.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 4:10 am**

I wonder if there are any more EU fans left on this site...

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 6:32 am**

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 7:48 am**

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I wonder if there are any more EU fans left on this site...

There are. Though fewer on this thread.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 8:16 am**

Vassenor wrote:
Speculation time: Who do we think Omega is a clone of then?

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 8:47 am**

Andsed wrote:
It was decent enough. But one things did bother me. The retconning of Caleb/Kanan´s backstory felt unessessary, its good they showed Order 66(and it was a very good scene) but could they not have used any other Jedi for it?

Vassenor wrote:
Speculation time: Who do we think Omega is a clone of then?

They said Jango but I´m thinking( or at least hoping) its a red herring. Making an opposite sex clone is one thing but she looks nothing like Jango and unless Disney has just said fuck to even pretending not to whitewash the clones I think there is enough shoe that is going to drop.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 8:59 am**

It's almost like Dave Filoni reads this sub, and purposely does things to piss off Ameri

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 9:01 am**

Tarsonis wrote:It's almost like Dave Filoni reads this sub, and purposely foes things to piss off Ameri

I can already feel the disturbance in the force from his future reaction to Omega

lol

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 12:00 pm**

Andsed wrote:
It was decent enough. But one things did bother me. The retconning of Caleb/Kanan´s backstory felt unessessary, its good they showed Order 66(and it was a very good scene) but could they not have used any other Jedi for it?

Vassenor wrote:
Speculation time: Who do we think Omega is a clone of then?

They said Jango but I´m thinking( or at least hoping) its a red herring. Making an opposite sex clone is one thing but she looks nothing like Jango and unless Disney has just said fuck to even pretending not to whitewash the clones I think there is enough shoe that is going to drop.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 12:03 pm**

Fedel wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I wonder if there are any more EU fans left on this site...

There are. Though fewer on this thread.

We are a dying species... The last few to resist Disney Corporate Hegemony... Some day, you’ll see, some day we’ll stand victorious!

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 12:13 pm**

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Fedel wrote:
There are. Though fewer on this thread.

We are a dying species... The last few to resist Disney Corporate Hegemony... Some day, you’ll see, some day we’ll stand victorious!

If you don't mind me asking.... What is your opinion on people who love Disney Star Wars content?

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 12:15 pm**

Vassenor wrote:
Andsed wrote:
It was decent enough. But one things did bother me. The retconning of Caleb/Kanan´s backstory felt unessessary, its good they showed Order 66(and it was a very good scene) but could they not have used any other Jedi for it?

They said Jango but I´m thinking( or at least hoping) its a red herring. Making an opposite sex clone is one thing but she looks nothing like Jango and unless Disney has just said fuck to even pretending not to whitewash the clones I think there is enough shoe that is going to drop.

Did they? I thought they just said "five clones".

Then again, I listen to the Dutch dub in which the narrator at the start said that the Jedi failed in kidnapping chancellor Palpatine...

Andsed wrote:
It was decent enough. But one things did bother me. The retconning of Caleb/Kanan´s backstory felt unessessary,

Isn't it as he described it in Rebels? From what I remember it's correct.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 12:29 pm**

HC Eredivisie wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Did they? I thought they just said "five clones".

It's literally said she 's a clone andI take that refers to Jango's clones as otherwise you can't tell if she's a clone at all.

Then again, I listen to the Dutch dub in which the narrator at the start said that the Jedi failed in kidnapping chancellor Palpatine...

Andsed wrote:
It was decent enough. But one things did bother me. The retconning of Caleb/Kanan´s backstory felt unessessary,
Isn't it as he described it in Rebels? From what I remember it's correct.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 12:43 pm**

Just-An-Illusion wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:We are a dying species... The last few to resist Disney Corporate Hegemony... Some day, you’ll see, some day we’ll stand victorious!

If you don't mind me asking.... What is your opinion on people who love Disney Star Wars content?

Very glad they have the ability to do so.

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