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Is This The Way? Mando Season 3 Thoughts

Its Amazing
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Its Pretty Good
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:39 am

Apparently the Rogue Squadron movie will take place post Rise of Skywalker from what ive heard on reddit, but take that with a pinch of salt.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:57 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Apparently the Rogue Squadron movie will take place post Rise of Skywalker from what ive heard on reddit, but take that with a pinch of salt.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:59 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Apparently the Rogue Squadron movie will take place post Rise of Skywalker from what ive heard on reddit, but take that with a pinch of salt.


>heard on reddit

Well there's your problem.

How dare you

Reddit is a completely reliable and trustworthy forum that is alwa- haha
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:04 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Apparently the Rogue Squadron movie will take place post Rise of Skywalker from what ive heard on reddit, but take that with a pinch of salt.


>heard on reddit

Well there's your problem.

Just going by what they said, it seems that’s what they’re hinting at:
The story will introduce a new generation of starfighter pilots as they earn their wings and risk their lives in a boundary-pushing, high-speed thrill-ride, and move the saga into the future era of the galaxy.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:06 am

"The High Republic's Writers on Why They Wanted to Make Star Wars Without a War"

Conflict is at the very heart of Star Wars. Light vs. Dark. Good vs. Evil. Empire vs. Rebellion. So many of the stories we have seen woven throughout its world are rooted in the very idea of combat and war. It’s in the name! So in order to do something radically different for The High Republic, its creative team had an idea: what if the major crisis that breaks out in these stories wasn’t a problem that could be solved with a lightsaber swing?

While there are traditionally antagonistic factions in Star Wars: The High Republic, the biggest crisis that permeates throughout the first few stories in this new era is something that becomes known as the Great Disaster: starships breaking up mid-hyperspace jump, their debris turning into powerful FTL meteor strikes that can re-enter normal space anywhere and anytime across a hyperspace lane, wreaking cataclysmic destruction on countless planets.

This isn’t just disaster on a scale unlike anything we’ve seen in Star Wars before—even with planet killers like the Death Star and Starkiller Base in the movies—but it presents a situation for the Jedi heroes of The High Republic, one that cannot be solved either with diplomacy or the blade of a laser sword. It can’t even really be solved with the Force alone, either: Padawans, Knights, and Masters alike must no longer be keepers of the peace, but medics and disaster relief experts, the ultimate expression of the Jedi Order’s compassion instead of its martial strength.

Above all for the writers behind these first stories in the setting, it was an idea that was much more interesting to explore than a traditional interstellar conflict. “I feel very strongly about this particular point—want to speak to it. I think we’re seeing this now in the world we’re living in, which is that disasters are large scale catastrophes test systems,” Light of the Jedi author Charles Soule told io9 over Zoom in a recent press day for Star Wars: The High Republic. “The way you can see the strength of a system, a government, a society—of its tools against the scope and scale of that catastrophe is to throw a disaster at it. So, the point of Light of the Jedi, in many ways, is to introduce the High Republic to a readership, to an audience. To show what it is capable of when it’s at its height, and when things get really bad, here’s how it solves problems.

The Great Disaster represents a level of crisis management for the Republic and the Jedi alike, one that forms a major basis for the main book in the first wave of High Republic fiction, Soule’s Light of the Jedi. But it’s made so challenging because the threat is existential and intangible, in such a manner that every facet of a Jedi’s training is tested.


There is a bit more to the Article, but i thought this was very interesting and worth sharing. Honestly i think its a good idea, nice change of pace away from conflict and war and instead showing how the Jedi and the Republic can deal with humanitarian crises and work as medics and doctors instead.

And then add in the "Nihil" as i believe they are called who are a force of barbarian raiders who will no doubt try and take advantage of the situation and cause havoc across the galaxy.
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Postby Andsed » Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:15 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:"The High Republic's Writers on Why They Wanted to Make Star Wars Without a War"

Conflict is at the very heart of Star Wars. Light vs. Dark. Good vs. Evil. Empire vs. Rebellion. So many of the stories we have seen woven throughout its world are rooted in the very idea of combat and war. It’s in the name! So in order to do something radically different for The High Republic, its creative team had an idea: what if the major crisis that breaks out in these stories wasn’t a problem that could be solved with a lightsaber swing?

While there are traditionally antagonistic factions in Star Wars: The High Republic, the biggest crisis that permeates throughout the first few stories in this new era is something that becomes known as the Great Disaster: starships breaking up mid-hyperspace jump, their debris turning into powerful FTL meteor strikes that can re-enter normal space anywhere and anytime across a hyperspace lane, wreaking cataclysmic destruction on countless planets.

This isn’t just disaster on a scale unlike anything we’ve seen in Star Wars before—even with planet killers like the Death Star and Starkiller Base in the movies—but it presents a situation for the Jedi heroes of The High Republic, one that cannot be solved either with diplomacy or the blade of a laser sword. It can’t even really be solved with the Force alone, either: Padawans, Knights, and Masters alike must no longer be keepers of the peace, but medics and disaster relief experts, the ultimate expression of the Jedi Order’s compassion instead of its martial strength.

Above all for the writers behind these first stories in the setting, it was an idea that was much more interesting to explore than a traditional interstellar conflict. “I feel very strongly about this particular point—want to speak to it. I think we’re seeing this now in the world we’re living in, which is that disasters are large scale catastrophes test systems,” Light of the Jedi author Charles Soule told io9 over Zoom in a recent press day for Star Wars: The High Republic. “The way you can see the strength of a system, a government, a society—of its tools against the scope and scale of that catastrophe is to throw a disaster at it. So, the point of Light of the Jedi, in many ways, is to introduce the High Republic to a readership, to an audience. To show what it is capable of when it’s at its height, and when things get really bad, here’s how it solves problems.

The Great Disaster represents a level of crisis management for the Republic and the Jedi alike, one that forms a major basis for the main book in the first wave of High Republic fiction, Soule’s Light of the Jedi. But it’s made so challenging because the threat is existential and intangible, in such a manner that every facet of a Jedi’s training is tested.


There is a bit more to the Article, but i thought this was very interesting and worth sharing. Honestly i think its a good idea, nice change of pace away from conflict and war and instead showing how the Jedi and the Republic can deal with humanitarian crises and work as medics and doctors instead.

And then add in the "Nihil" as i believe they are called who are a force of barbarian raiders who will no doubt try and take advantage of the situation and cause havoc across the galaxy.

We dont really get to see enough of the Jedi actually acting as compassionate peacekeepers(the thing that for all their flaws puts them far above the Sith imo) so I am all for this.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:18 am

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— No one noticed the “shuttle pilot” had a random woman’s voice.


Where does it say they're claiming to be the same shuttle from the prologue rather than just another Lambda shuttle under fire?

Maybe I’m making an assumption about the quality of Star Wars technology here, but I assumed the ships would have IFF tags and other such electronic whatnot. If all the Imperials we’ve seen in the season belong to Gideon’s faction, you’d think they’d have a way of tracking their equipment. Given the conflicts between the different Imperial remnants, a random shuttle is not necessarily going to be friendly. Plus, the shuttle was carrying the doctor, so they’d probably keep track of it.

And Gideon’s shtick is that he’s supposed to be knowledgeable anyway. “I know you’ve fired your wrist launcher’s only salvo.” Compensating for not keeping track of a VIP shuttle there?

Then again, Star Wars is oddly adverse to electronic advancements for a sci-fi setting. Rule of cool sometimes keeps things permanently WWII esque.

I thought the infiltration of the ship could’ve been done better in general. Boba Fett made no effort to sell his attack and bugged out as soon as the shuttle landed, and Din’s secretive entrance involved just waiting a few minutes before coming out of the same shuttle. Good thing there’s only one hallway Stormtroopers seemed capable of entering the hangar from.

Missed opportunity to have Boba pull a Last Jedi and eject Din out of the Slave 1 in some kind of escape pod.


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Do we think Grogu and R2 recognised each other and that's what finally convinced him to go?

Maybe, but as someone else pointed out, that makes it a little wonky that R2-D2 would have recognized Yoda in V but still treats him like a crazy vagrant.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:"The High Republic's Writers on Why They Wanted to Make Star Wars Without a War"

Conflict is at the very heart of Star Wars. Light vs. Dark. Good vs. Evil. Empire vs. Rebellion. So many of the stories we have seen woven throughout its world are rooted in the very idea of combat and war. It’s in the name! So in order to do something radically different for The High Republic, its creative team had an idea: what if the major crisis that breaks out in these stories wasn’t a problem that could be solved with a lightsaber swing?

While there are traditionally antagonistic factions in Star Wars: The High Republic, the biggest crisis that permeates throughout the first few stories in this new era is something that becomes known as the Great Disaster: starships breaking up mid-hyperspace jump, their debris turning into powerful FTL meteor strikes that can re-enter normal space anywhere and anytime across a hyperspace lane, wreaking cataclysmic destruction on countless planets.

This isn’t just disaster on a scale unlike anything we’ve seen in Star Wars before—even with planet killers like the Death Star and Starkiller Base in the movies—but it presents a situation for the Jedi heroes of The High Republic, one that cannot be solved either with diplomacy or the blade of a laser sword. It can’t even really be solved with the Force alone, either: Padawans, Knights, and Masters alike must no longer be keepers of the peace, but medics and disaster relief experts, the ultimate expression of the Jedi Order’s compassion instead of its martial strength.

Above all for the writers behind these first stories in the setting, it was an idea that was much more interesting to explore than a traditional interstellar conflict. “I feel very strongly about this particular point—want to speak to it. I think we’re seeing this now in the world we’re living in, which is that disasters are large scale catastrophes test systems,” Light of the Jedi author Charles Soule told io9 over Zoom in a recent press day for Star Wars: The High Republic. “The way you can see the strength of a system, a government, a society—of its tools against the scope and scale of that catastrophe is to throw a disaster at it. So, the point of Light of the Jedi, in many ways, is to introduce the High Republic to a readership, to an audience. To show what it is capable of when it’s at its height, and when things get really bad, here’s how it solves problems.

The Great Disaster represents a level of crisis management for the Republic and the Jedi alike, one that forms a major basis for the main book in the first wave of High Republic fiction, Soule’s Light of the Jedi. But it’s made so challenging because the threat is existential and intangible, in such a manner that every facet of a Jedi’s training is tested.


There is a bit more to the Article, but i thought this was very interesting and worth sharing. Honestly i think its a good idea, nice change of pace away from conflict and war and instead showing how the Jedi and the Republic can deal with humanitarian crises and work as medics and doctors instead.

And then add in the "Nihil" as i believe they are called who are a force of barbarian raiders who will no doubt try and take advantage of the situation and cause havoc across the galaxy.

That sounds hardcore.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:21 am

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Maybe, but as someone else pointed out, that makes it a little wonky that R2-D2 would have recognized Yoda in V but still treats him like a crazy vagrant.


Retcons be fucky like that. Like before the PT I'm pretty sure R2 was just some random Alderaanian Diplomatic Corps droid or something.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:05 am

You know, the more I think about it, the more enthralled I am by that High Republic idea.

As much as people complained about TLJ’s hyperspace ram, I was excited to see the writers actually acknowledge hyperspace like that. As a kid, I remember reading a bit from a Star Wars guidebook of some kind that starships going through hyperspace sometimes fail to “slow down” and end up plowing into a planet going FTL. Even if the starship was only a standard transport, the sheer amount of kinetic energy involved is disastrous for the planet.

Though that was really just an off handed bit of lore fluff that has never been a real plot point, it really stuck with little kid me for being so incredibly out there. Imagine living in a society like that. Imagine a galactic trade hub with billions of people, or the homeworld of a sentient species, or an ancient archaeologically significant planet being wiped off the face of the galaxy because a starship’s hyperdrive malfunctioned. Even if this only happened once in a blue moon, you’d lose a few planets this way over thousands of years of galactic civilization. What makes it really insidious is the more popular and frequented a planet is, the more likely this kind of disaster would become.

So this High Republic plot point of FTL meteors that rain down the hyperlanes devastating major planets is just... wow. Now that’s an interesting Star Wars premise.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:08 pm

Andsed wrote:We dont really get to see enough of the Jedi actually acting as compassionate peacekeepers(the thing that for all their flaws puts them far above the Sith imo) so I am all for this.
I know it sounds like a really cool idea to explore, im all for it. Might consider picking up the first High Republic novel myself some point in the future and giving it a read.

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The first Galactic Republic wrote:You know, the more I think about it, the more enthralled I am by that High Republic idea.

As much as people complained about TLJ’s hyperspace ram, I was excited to see the writers actually acknowledge hyperspace like that. As a kid, I remember reading a bit from a Star Wars guidebook of some kind that starships going through hyperspace sometimes fail to “slow down” and end up plowing into a planet going FTL. Even if the starship was only a standard transport, the sheer amount of kinetic energy involved is disastrous for the planet.

Though that was really just an off handed bit of lore fluff that has never been a real plot point, it really stuck with little kid me for being so incredibly out there. Imagine living in a society like that. Imagine a galactic trade hub with billions of people, or the homeworld of a sentient species, or an ancient archaeologically significant planet being wiped off the face of the galaxy because a starship’s hyperdrive malfunctioned. Even if this only happened once in a blue moon, you’d lose a few planets this way over thousands of years of galactic civilization. What makes it really insidious is the more popular and frequented a planet is, the more likely this kind of disaster would become.

So this High Republic plot point of FTL meteors that rain down the hyperlanes devastating major planets is just... wow. Now that’s an interesting Star Wars premise.
This kind of disaster could kill Billions of people. Imagine, blink of an eye half a city has been ripped apart because of a ship that this happened to. The sheer amount of people that would die like instantly would be insane.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:09 pm

I appreciate how fucking good the lightsabers in The Mandalorian look. Just as good as the movies effects, its fantastic and only makes me more excited for things like the Acolyte which is bound to focus on force users (so jedi/sith) given the description of the show they put out.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:22 pm

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I appreciate how fucking good the lightsabers in The Mandalorian look. Just as good as the movies effects, its fantastic and only makes me more excited for things like the Acolyte which is bound to focus on force users (so jedi/sith) given the description of the show they put out.

Oh yeah.

This has been one of the prettiest TV shows ever made. No doubt about it.
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I appreciate how fucking good the lightsabers in The Mandalorian look. Just as good as the movies effects, its fantastic and only makes me more excited for things like the Acolyte which is bound to focus on force users (so jedi/sith) given the description of the show they put out.


Yeah, I believe now they basically use amped up versions of the props that places like Saberforge sell. Since that way you get all the nice interactive lighting effects and stuff without having to spend hours rendering every frame in AfterEffects.
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The first Galactic Republic wrote:You know, the more I think about it, the more enthralled I am by that High Republic idea.

As much as people complained about TLJ’s hyperspace ram, I was excited to see the writers actually acknowledge hyperspace like that. As a kid, I remember reading a bit from a Star Wars guidebook of some kind that starships going through hyperspace sometimes fail to “slow down” and end up plowing into a planet going FTL. Even if the starship was only a standard transport, the sheer amount of kinetic energy involved is disastrous for the planet.

Though that was really just an off handed bit of lore fluff that has never been a real plot point, it really stuck with little kid me for being so incredibly out there. Imagine living in a society like that. Imagine a galactic trade hub with billions of people, or the homeworld of a sentient species, or an ancient archaeologically significant planet being wiped off the face of the galaxy because a starship’s hyperdrive malfunctioned. Even if this only happened once in a blue moon, you’d lose a few planets this way over thousands of years of galactic civilization. What makes it really insidious is the more popular and frequented a planet is, the more likely this kind of disaster would become.

So this High Republic plot point of FTL meteors that rain down the hyperlanes devastating major planets is just... wow. Now that’s an interesting Star Wars premise.


Except the inherent problem with these concepts is that they'd be so easy to weaponize they render all other forms of technological warfare completely and totally redundant. What's the point of building an entire fleet of warships when all you need is a small, unmanned freighter programmed to ram the command ship and destroy the entire fleet in one go? Why bother wasting trillions of credits building a giant moon-sized battle station that can destroy planets in a single shot if a single Star Destroyer with a sabotaged FTL drive could produce the same effect?

There's a reason this kind of stuff wasn't done before TLJ: it breaks the entire universe and the way it works. If you can weaponize hyperspace than all other weapons become totally obsolete and there's no real conflict at all. It's a bit like nuclear weapons in the real world in which anyone who possesses this technology won't dare go to war with anyone who also possesses said technology because the they could totally wipe each other out, thus leaving no room for conflict at all and taking the "Wars" out of "Star Wars". And the more excuses you try to drum up to neutralize this fact the more you've completely eliminated the threat factor that such incidents could pose, thereby making them a non-issue altogether.

After all there's no reason to ram your plane into the enemy carrier if you have a guided, unmanned missile that can produce the same effect without losing a perfectly good plane and it's pilot in the process. There's no reason to throw your knife at an enemy when you have a sidearm that can produce a superior effect with less skill involved. There's no reason to shoot off a flare and give away your position when you can request extraction via a secure radio frequency.

We don't use metal body armors anymore because gunpowder made them obsolete. We don't build stone walls around cities anymore because cannons made them obsolete. We don't send men to war mounted on horses anymore because machine guns made them obsolete.

So if your tiny little starfighter can jump to FTL and take out a fully-shielded, heavy-armored capital ship without firing a shot then that capital ship has just been rendered obsolete and there's no reason to build more. The Sith could've conquered the galaxy in a single campaign of terror by launching unmanned starships on deliberate FTL kamikaze runs and forcing entire planets to surrender. Palpatine could have destroyed both the Jedi and the Republic and taken over the entire galaxy without having to spend a decade building two armies to fight each other across the galaxy for 3 years. Both Death Stars and Starkiller Base could've been destroyed by a single fighter pilot, and the destruction of Alderaan and the Hosnian System could've been accomplished with one Star Destroyer per planet. The Emperor's failsafe to raze entire worlds in the event he died in order to leave the New Republic with nothing to rule over could have been accomplished with one Star Destroyer per planet. Malak's destruction of Taris, Nihilus' destruction of Katarr, Angral's failed destruction of Tython, Vitiate's destruction of Nathema and Ziost, and literally every other incident of a planet being totally destroyed or ravaged to the point of being inhospitable via orbital bombardment, superweapon, or even the power of the Force is rendered totally redundant because you could produce a nearly identical or totally identical result with just a single starship set on autopilot.

It's terrifying, sure, but it's so absurd that even for Star Wars it seems ridiculous.
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Postby HC Eredivisie » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:38 pm

I agree with all of that. And if you get the wars out of Star Wars, you're left with people just travelling across the stars, a kind of star trek I suppose. That could make a good show and movies btw.

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So i guess Gideon did want the blood for Palpatine's clones then with the whole "His blood will restore ORDER™ to the galaxy" line. They also didnt kill him so i assume he is just being taken prisoner, maybe given over to the New Republic? Or he escapes in Season 3 and gets back to his forces?

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I wonder if it will be another Imperial or if it will be someone else, maybe a pirate lord or something. Though i guess they are setting up Bo Katann to try and take back Mandalore again so that might factor into it.

Well they set up Thrawn for Ahsoka; I'm hoping wr see more of Gideon, but I want a different big bad overall. Gideon was beat but not menacing enough to really hold the series as the primary enemy. He needs to be working for someone. Theres always a bigger fish

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:03 pm

HC Eredivisie wrote:Makes me think
Gideon works for Thrawn who's out there somewhere overseeing the project to clone Sidious. Mayby with Ezra as a prisoner

Oh that would be cool.

If they do make Thrawn the villain for the various post ROTJ shows they are doing, Mandalorian, Rangers, Ahsoka then i wonder which show he would take prominence in as Ahsoka is a limited season only as far as i know so we are looking at one season similar to the Obi Wan show if true.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:11 pm

Speaking of ROTJ

anybody else get Vader vibes when Mando took his helmet off at the end there?
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Is Fallen Order worth it?
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Postby Andsed » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:08 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Is Fallen Order worth it?

As someone who has played through it multiple times, yes. Its really fun and I had an absolute blast playing it.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:25 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Is Fallen Order worth it?

The cast is boring, but the gameplay was fun.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:27 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Is Fallen Order worth it?

The cast is boring, but the gameplay was fun.


its on sale for $24 so i figured I'd get it. Now we play the waiting (downloading) game.
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Postby Aeritai » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:29 pm

I didn't see the whole episode, but I have to say that deepfake of Luke's face looks really good unless they actually found someone that looks like Mark Hamil. Then I'm very impressed.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:34 pm

Aeritai wrote:
I didn't see the whole episode, but I have to say that deepfake of Luke's face looks really good unless they actually found someone that looks like Mark Hamil. Then I'm very impressed.


There's a body double but it's Hamil's face and voice. It looks, decent in motion, just don't pause it.
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