Star Wars: This is The Way

[Tarsonis]

I'd like you see people putting spoilers on the OT, but NOOOOOO!!.....

Ben Kenobi is Chewbacca's third cousin.

Um actually, third cousin twice removed. Come on now.

[Cannot think of a name]

Alright, I take my shots on Ameri's weird tastes as much or more than anyone, but let's not lose track of the fact that we're both talking about personal tastes and a goofy ass scifi franchise that people make up.

It's not about personal taste, it's about inconsistency and pure hypocrisy on his part. I can accept that people have different opinions from me--even when those opinions are total trash--and I will never dismiss anyone for having shit taste.

But Ameri is an admitted hypocrite. If he doesn't like Ahsoka, fine. If he likes Rey, also fine. But he has repeatedly used the argument that Ahsoka is a Mary Sue to justify his hatred for her, which is a load of bullshit that I could easily ignore if he didn't also like Rey - who is the literal definition of a Mary Sue. This isn't a matter of opinion, and it's not up for debate. The very definition of Mary Sue speaks for itself:

A Mary Sue is a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as unrealistically free of weaknesses.

This fits Rey to a T. She is utterly perfect, everybody loves her, and she never fails at whatever she sets out to do. She did not struggle even once during the Sequels and there was absolutely no challenge she couldn't overcome. Pure, utter bullshit.

Ahsoka, meanwhile, does not fit this description at all. She's made mistakes, failed, and had to overcome challenges often with the aid of someone older and wiser than herself. She's repeatedly made bad calls that have gotten people killed, herself captured/nearly killed, or nearly got people killed and has been chewed out for it and has even lost faith in herself. She worked hard to get to where she is right now and she earned every bit of it.

Rey didn't earn shit. She was handed an infinite amount of victories on a silver platter. Ahsoka is not a Mary Sue; Rey is a Mary Sue. If you hate the former and like the latter then that is totally fine. You have shit taste, but I won't dismiss you just for that. But if you try to make some bullshit argument that you hate the former because she's a Mary Sue (she isn't; not up for debate) while liking the latter who is in fact a certified Mary Sue (again, not up for debate) then you are a fucking hypocrite and I have no reason to consider anything you have to say on the matter of whether the Sequels were good or not because you've demonstrated a contradictory bias in their favor.

When I see bullshit, I call it out.

Dude, seriously. It's a series about space wizards with laser swords. Take it down a bunch of notches.

[The Imperial Reach]

It's not about personal taste, it's about inconsistency and pure hypocrisy on his part. I can accept that people have different opinions from me--even when those opinions are total trash--and I will never dismiss anyone for having shit taste.

But Ameri is an admitted hypocrite. If he doesn't like Ahsoka, fine. If he likes Rey, also fine. But he has repeatedly used the argument that Ahsoka is a Mary Sue to justify his hatred for her, which is a load of bullshit that I could easily ignore if he didn't also like Rey - who is the literal definition of a Mary Sue. This isn't a matter of opinion, and it's not up for debate. The very definition of Mary Sue speaks for itself:



This fits Rey to a T. She is utterly perfect, everybody loves her, and she never fails at whatever she sets out to do. She did not struggle even once during the Sequels and there was absolutely no challenge she couldn't overcome. Pure, utter bullshit.

Ahsoka, meanwhile, does not fit this description at all. She's made mistakes, failed, and had to overcome challenges often with the aid of someone older and wiser than herself. She's repeatedly made bad calls that have gotten people killed, herself captured/nearly killed, or nearly got people killed and has been chewed out for it and has even lost faith in herself. She worked hard to get to where she is right now and she earned every bit of it.

Rey didn't earn shit. She was handed an infinite amount of victories on a silver platter. Ahsoka is not a Mary Sue; Rey is a Mary Sue. If you hate the former and like the latter then that is totally fine. You have shit taste, but I won't dismiss you just for that. But if you try to make some bullshit argument that you hate the former because she's a Mary Sue (she isn't; not up for debate) while liking the latter who is in fact a certified Mary Sue (again, not up for debate) then you are a fucking hypocrite and I have no reason to consider anything you have to say on the matter of whether the Sequels were good or not because you've demonstrated a contradictory bias in their favor.

When I see bullshit, I call it out.

Dude, seriously. It's a series about space wizards with laser swords. Take it down a bunch of notches.

It's one thing that he's a whiny hypocrite, but also smug and arrogantly dismissive. These are all traits that make my blood boil, in particular because I have to deal with people like this every fucking day and it really pisses me off. So forgive me if it seems like I'm taking this seriously because I assure you this is less about Star Wars and more about how totally insufferable a person Ameri is and how sick I am of his bullshit.

Good day.

[Saiwania]

For me, Owen Lars might well be the best character in all of Star Wars precisely because of how boring/like other people he is. He's hard working and down to earth enough to where other people can relate to him. Whilst Luke is whining about wanting the city life or adventure Uncle Owen is shaking his head and saying more or less: "No, what matters for our life here on Tatooine is our work- which is moisture farming."

[Andsed]

For me, Owen Lars might well be the best character in all of Star Wars precisely because of how boring/like other people he is. He's hard working and down to earth enough to where other people can relate to him. Whilst Luke is whining about wanting the city life or adventure Uncle Owen is shaking his head and saying more or less: "No, what matters for our life here on Tatooine is our work- which is moisture farming."

...Dont you support the Empire... the people who literally burnt him and his wife to death?

[Cannot think of a name]

Dude, seriously. It's a series about space wizards with laser swords. Take it down a bunch of notches.

It's one thing that he's a whiny hypocrite, but also smug and arrogantly dismissive. These are all traits that make my blood boil, in particular because I have to deal with people like this every fucking day and it really pisses me off. So forgive me if it seems like I'm taking this seriously because I assure you this is less about Star Wars and more about how totally insufferable a person Ameri is and how sick I am of his bullshit.

Good day.

You know you can put people on ignore, right?

[Tarsonis]

Dude, seriously. It's a series about space wizards with laser swords. Take it down a bunch of notches.

It's one thing that he's a whiny hypocrite, but also smug and arrogantly dismissive. These are all traits that make my blood boil, in particular because I have to deal with people like this every fucking day and it really pisses me off. So forgive me if it seems like I'm taking this seriously because I assure you this is less about Star Wars and more about how totally insufferable a person Ameri is and how sick I am of his bullshit.

Good day.

....You realize you logged on to the internet right?

[Santheres]

Just like to reiterate that some people (Like me) find the sequels perfectly enjoyable.

Yes but your views are so wildly inconsistent to the point they should be discarded entirely without the slightest hint of consideration so using yourself as an example doesn't prove anything.

I'm shoving you off to the side because you're a fucking hypocrite, actually.

Alright, I take my shots on Ameri's weird tastes as much or more than anyone, but let's not lose track of the fact that we're both talking about personal tastes and a goofy ass scifi franchise that people make up.

It's not about personal taste, it's about inconsistency and pure hypocrisy on his part. I can accept that people have different opinions from me--even when those opinions are total trash--and I will never dismiss anyone for having shit taste.

But Ameri is an admitted hypocrite. If he doesn't like Ahsoka, fine. If he likes Rey, also fine. But he has repeatedly used the argument that Ahsoka is a Mary Sue to justify his hatred for her, which is a load of bullshit that I could easily ignore if he didn't also like Rey - who is the literal definition of a Mary Sue. This isn't a matter of opinion, and it's not up for debate. The very definition of Mary Sue speaks for itself:

A Mary Sue is a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as unrealistically free of weaknesses.

This fits Rey to a T. She is utterly perfect, everybody loves her, and she never fails at whatever she sets out to do. She did not struggle even once during the Sequels and there was absolutely no challenge she couldn't overcome. Pure, utter bullshit.

Ahsoka, meanwhile, does not fit this description at all. She's made mistakes, failed, and had to overcome challenges often with the aid of someone older and wiser than herself. She's repeatedly made bad calls that have gotten people killed, herself captured/nearly killed, or nearly got people killed and has been chewed out for it and has even lost faith in herself. She worked hard to get to where she is right now and she earned every bit of it.

Rey didn't earn shit. She was handed an infinite amount of victories on a silver platter. Ahsoka is not a Mary Sue; Rey is a Mary Sue. If you hate the former and like the latter then that is totally fine. You have shit taste, but I won't dismiss you just for that. But if you try to make some bullshit argument that you hate the former because she's a Mary Sue (she isn't; not up for debate) while liking the latter who is in fact a certified Mary Sue (again, not up for debate) then you are a fucking hypocrite and I have no reason to consider anything you have to say on the matter of whether the Sequels were good or not because you've demonstrated a contradictory bias in their favor.

When I see bullshit, I call it out.

It's one thing that he's a whiny hypocrite, but also smug and arrogantly dismissive. These are all traits that make my blood boil, in particular because I have to deal with people like this every fucking day and it really pisses me off. So forgive me if it seems like I'm taking this seriously because I assure you this is less about Star Wars and more about how totally insufferable a person Ameri is and how sick I am of his bullshit.

Good day.

*** Warned for flamebaiting ***

You need to either chill, or stop posting in this thread. I don't care which, honestly. If you insist on going off like this, you will be invited to take a short break from the forum.

Thanks!

[Shazbotdom]

I really, really, REALLY want them to do a live-action show in the Old Republic era centered around Darth Bane and showing the creation of the Rule of Two.

[Cannot think of a name]

I really, really, REALLY want them to do a live-action show in the Old Republic era centered around Darth Bane and showing the creation of the Rule of Two.

Of all the arbitrary mythology built up around Star Wars, I hate the Rule of Two so very much.

[Valrifell]

I really, really, REALLY want them to do a live-action show in the Old Republic era centered around Darth Bane and showing the creation of the Rule of Two.

Of all the arbitrary mythology built up around Star Wars, I hate the Rule of Two so very much.

Why because it makes no sense or because it makes no fucking sense?

[Andsed]

Of all the arbitrary mythology built up around Star Wars, I hate the Rule of Two so very much.

Why because it makes no sense or because it makes no fucking sense?

I think there is some sense to it. An order with the ideology of the Sith will tend to be unstable existing as a large scale organization like the Jedi. Just to much infighting. Downsizing to just two and then staying in the shadow to manipulate events to seize power seems like the more prudent option compared to having hundreds or thousands of Siths killing each other wasting resources.

[Ameriganastan]

I mean I get 2, but why just 2? Like you're telling me in the entire galaxy, there can only be 2 at a time?

[Tarsonis]

Why because it makes no sense or because it makes no fucking sense?

I think there is some sense to it. An order with the ideology of the Sith will tend to be unstable existing as a large scale organization like the Jedi. Just to much infighting. Downsizing to just two and then staying in the shadow to manipulate events to seize power seems like the more prudent option compared to having hundreds or thousands of Siths killing each other wasting resources.

Darth Bane just wanted some peace and quiet.

[Cannot think of a name]

Of all the arbitrary mythology built up around Star Wars, I hate the Rule of Two so very much.

Why because it makes no sense or because it makes no fucking sense?

A little from column a, a little from column b...

[Andsed]

I mean I get 2, but why just 2? Like you're telling me in the entire galaxy, there can only be 2 at a time?

I mean when Maul came back in the Clone Wars and began building his power base he like almost instantly came into conflict with Palpatine. Sith dont like rivals and two Sith masters are inevitability gonna become rivals since their can really only be one leader. Probably comes with an ideology that includes ¨might makes right¨ and ¨take power at all costs¨ as core tenants I guess.

I think there is some sense to it. An order with the ideology of the Sith will tend to be unstable existing as a large scale organization like the Jedi. Just to much infighting. Downsizing to just two and then staying in the shadow to manipulate events to seize power seems like the more prudent option compared to having hundreds or thousands of Siths killing each other wasting resources.

Darth Bane just wanted some peace and quiet.

Gotta be tiring seeing the morons you call allies murdering each other while your just trying to take over the galaxy.

[Adamede]

I mean I get 2, but why just 2? Like you're telling me in the entire galaxy, there can only be 2 at a time?

I mean the Sith are like unrealistically evil and backstab each other as much as they try to rule the galaxy/kill Jedi.

[Idzequitch]

I mean I get 2, but why just 2? Like you're telling me in the entire galaxy, there can only be 2 at a time?

Officially yes. However the apprentice sometimes takes on an apprentice of their own, resulting in an unofficial third Sith. For example, Darth Plagueis was alive for the majority of TPM, which made Sidious the apprentice, meaning Maul wasn't officially part of the club. Also there's Dooku with Ventress in TCW.

[Idzequitch]

Why because it makes no sense or because it makes no fucking sense?

I think there is some sense to it. An order with the ideology of the Sith will tend to be unstable existing as a large scale organization like the Jedi. Just to much infighting. Downsizing to just two and then staying in the shadow to manipulate events to seize power seems like the more prudent option compared to having hundreds or thousands of Siths killing each other wasting resources.

It was certainly pretty hectic on Korriban in KOTOR, before the rule of two.

[Northern Water Tribes]

_{^{do ya now da wae}}

[Gemeanwealth of Man]

I mean I get 2, but why just 2? Like you're telling me in the entire galaxy, there can only be 2 at a time?

Officially yes. However the apprentice sometimes takes on an apprentice of their own, resulting in an unofficial third Sith. For example, Darth Plagueis was alive for the majority of TPM, which made Sidious the apprentice, meaning Maul wasn't officially part of the club. Also there's Dooku with Ventress in TCW.

I mean, the fact the Rule of Two exists is mostly because every other Sith Line other than Bane's has been extinguished, with that in mind if we're being pedantic the loophole is that Ventress (a "Sith Assassin", rather than an Apprentice [manifesting the desire for knowledge and power] or Master [manifesting the knowledge and power itself]) isn't necessarily in the line of succession. She knows just as Dooku and Sidious that she's not going to become an apprentice. Of course the fact Sidious in general wasn't functioning as a Master probably was supposed to (he wasn't teaching a future successor but a "forever subordinate", which makes sense because the Apprentice is supposed to kill the Master and Sidious had no intentions of dying) also should be taken into account.

[Ameriganastan]

I mean I get 2, but why just 2? Like you're telling me in the entire galaxy, there can only be 2 at a time?

Officially yes. However the apprentice sometimes takes on an apprentice of their own, resulting in an unofficial third Sith. For example, Darth Plagueis was alive for the majority of TPM, which made Sidious the apprentice, meaning Maul wasn't officially part of the club. Also there's Dooku with Ventress in TCW.

...Wait, Plagueis was still alive during The Phantom Menace? I was not aware of that.

[Gemeanwealth of Man]

Officially yes. However the apprentice sometimes takes on an apprentice of their own, resulting in an unofficial third Sith. For example, Darth Plagueis was alive for the majority of TPM, which made Sidious the apprentice, meaning Maul wasn't officially part of the club. Also there's Dooku with Ventress in TCW.

...Wait, Plagueis was still alive during The Phantom Menace? I was not aware of that.

He dies roughly around the same time Maul gets cut in half on Naboo.

[Pax Nerdvana]

If they ever did do another Republic commando game it should be post order 66 where you assist in hunting down surviving Jedi or newly founded rebellion cells.

I would play that.
I'm almost done with Hard Contact. It's good.

[Andsed]

So uh, Ubisoft is making an Open World Star Wars game More specifically its being made by Massive Entertainment(the studio behind the Division) to make an open world Star Wars game. I am cautiously optimistic since such a thing is something I have thought would be cool, but it is Ubisoft and their record is mixed at times.