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Europa Universalis
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13%
Victoria
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Crusader Kings
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Hearts of Iron
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Stellaris
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One of those weird "published by PDX" games that nobody ever talks about here
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:09 pm

North German Realm wrote:You know the lack of a Viking Kingdom of Dublin is kinda offensive to me, in part because I just want to make a Norse Kingdom of Ireland rn and this means I'll need to play and get the title myself.


EU4 custom nation time
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Postby North German Realm » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:10 pm

Cisairse wrote:
North German Realm wrote:You know the lack of a Viking Kingdom of Dublin is kinda offensive to me, in part because I just want to make a Norse Kingdom of Ireland rn and this means I'll need to play and get the title myself.


EU4 custom nation time

... CK2, actually, but sure why not.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:14 pm

So i started a Fanatic purifier run, because you just gotta genocide sometimes. And in the same cluster as me there is a Common Ground Federation, and even though they outnumbered me 3 -1 i had a superior fleet with a higher rate of fire, and have been carving them apart in wars every few years and have surrounded their worlds, with no way for them to escape.

They are gona get murdered, and there is nothing the galaxy can do to help.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:23 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So i started a Fanatic purifier run, because you just gotta genocide sometimes. And in the same cluster as me there is a Common Ground Federation, and even though they outnumbered me 3 -1 i had a superior fleet with a higher rate of fire, and have been carving them apart in wars every few years and have surrounded their worlds, with no way for them to escape.

They are gona get murdered, and there is nothing the galaxy can do to help.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:24 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So i started a Fanatic purifier run, because you just gotta genocide sometimes. And in the same cluster as me there is a Common Ground Federation, and even though they outnumbered me 3 -1 i had a superior fleet with a higher rate of fire, and have been carving them apart in wars every few years and have surrounded their worlds, with no way for them to escape.

They are gona get murdered, and there is nothing the galaxy can do to help.


Oh, hey, 3 new planets for you to colonize.

4 Planets, one of them colonised! Oh how sweet, they prepared me a new world.
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Postby Licana » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:43 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So i started a Fanatic purifier run, because you just gotta genocide sometimes. And in the same cluster as me there is a Common Ground Federation, and even though they outnumbered me 3 -1 i had a superior fleet with a higher rate of fire, and have been carving them apart in wars every few years and have surrounded their worlds, with no way for them to escape.

They are gona get murdered, and there is nothing the galaxy can do to help.

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Postby Slutsk Horde » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:33 pm

North German Realm wrote:You know the lack of a Viking Kingdom of Dublin is kinda offensive to me, in part because I just want to make a Norse Kingdom of Ireland rn and this means I'll need to play and get the title myself.

I remember that there are Vikings in Ireland in the 867 bookmark, not necessarily in Dublin though. Or you could make a custom character.
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Postby North German Realm » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:50 pm

Slutsk Horde wrote:
North German Realm wrote:You know the lack of a Viking Kingdom of Dublin is kinda offensive to me, in part because I just want to make a Norse Kingdom of Ireland rn and this means I'll need to play and get the title myself.

I remember that there are Vikings in Ireland in the 867 bookmark, not necessarily in Dublin though. Or you could make a custom character.

There's Suðreyjar and Jórvik, both in ahistorically large borders, but threre's no Kingdom of Dublin (or even a rough sketch of the various Viking kingdoms all over Ireland). The Viking Kingdom of Dublin actually outlived Jorvik (and Suðreyjar) by like, around a century.
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:53 pm

North German Realm wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
EU4 custom nation time

... CK2, actually, but sure why not.


CK2 doesn't really have custom nations, just custom characters for pre-existing titles.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:34 pm

Cisairse wrote:
North German Realm wrote:... CK2, actually, but sure why not.


CK2 doesn't really have custom nations, just custom characters for pre-existing titles.

Charlemagne lets you make custom titular titles though. I had some fun with that once while making a royal mess of the British Isles.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:47 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
CK2 doesn't really have custom nations, just custom characters for pre-existing titles.

Charlemagne lets you make custom titular titles though. I had some fun with that once while making a royal mess of the British Isles.

Well, better than a duchal mess for sure!

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Postby Slutsk Horde » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:48 pm

Cisairse wrote:
North German Realm wrote:... CK2, actually, but sure why not.


CK2 doesn't really have custom nations, just custom characters for pre-existing titles.

> implying that choice of title matters in CK2
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:04 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
CK2 doesn't really have custom nations, just custom characters for pre-existing titles.

Charlemagne lets you make custom titular titles though. I had some fun with that once while making a royal mess of the British Isles.


IIRC you can't do that from the start-game screen, you can only do it after playing for awhile and amassing titles.

Unless I've missed something...
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:04 pm

Slutsk Horde wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
CK2 doesn't really have custom nations, just custom characters for pre-existing titles.

> implying that choice of title matters in CK2


I...have I been playing CK2 totally differently from everyone else?
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:23 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Ithalian Empire wrote:Charlemagne lets you make custom titular titles though. I had some fun with that once while making a royal mess of the British Isles.


IIRC you can't do that from the start-game screen, you can only do it after playing for awhile and amassing titles.

Unless I've missed something...

This is correct, but honestly I don't care about making a custom kingdom in CK2.
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:41 pm

Hey, does anyone know how to direct allied armies in Imperator: Rome? As in, are there any buttons similar in vein to the handy 'attach to' mechanic from CK2: Jade Dragon? Also this game is taking a toll on me it seems. Makes me feel really 'deficient in the head department' (a wordy euphemism for dumb). Unlike CK2 where I seem to have a blast turning x culture and y religion into z big empire, Imperator feels like a game where real success can only be achieved playing as one of the big-name Hellenics (and Carthage!) that line the Mediterranean. Tried a couple of campaigns as various nations, from Black Sea Greek minors to Getia and Auscia, two settled tribes. The first was utterly destroyed by an expanding Rome, and the latter got coalition'd by a bunch of its tribal peers into subission. I did manage to form Aquitania as Auscia and turn that into a republic (a republic of pre Indo-European peoples) first, but it was of no use. A civil war had left me starved for troops, and while manpower was not a problem, the manpower recovery rate was. The time it takes to regrow your manpower and reinforce your ranks seems absurd. This doesn't work like HOI4 where one click to change a conscription law and now hundreds of thousands of young adult men are ripe for the battlefield. And the same thing appears to be true for army morale. If a battle is lost, an army can be expected to be dead weight for quite a while, as morale seems to take center stage in battle calculation, as opposed to the almost brain-dead mass assault I'd pull on Islamic caliphates and Christian fiefdoms as Christian lords and viking chiefs respectively. And while Light Infantry is something I never touch in CK2, suggesting a vague notion of strategy, by the time I get the ball rolling in CK2, I just default to spamming barracks+whatever cultural retinue I have access to, and doomstacking myself a twenty, thirty thousand strong army. I'm also doing this in Imperator, mostly because the countries I play as can support abysmal troop counts, as opposed to the multiple 40k stacks Rome pulled on me as Getia. And that Rome only held Italy and parts of what we now call Former Yugoslavia. The fact that I seem to be so piss-poor bad at this game is really making me feel a bit terrible.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:44 pm

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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:35 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Slutsk Horde wrote:> implying that choice of title matters in CK2


I...have I been playing CK2 totally differently from everyone else?


No, it's the Slutsk Horde that is wrong.
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:01 pm

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How am I supposed to change this?
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Postby Abserdia » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:16 pm

Cisairse wrote:(Image)

How am I supposed to change this?

Honestly, for 100% of my Imperator playtime I've had that in my alert bar. So I have no clue.
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:31 pm

This feels like a race. Red Team v. Blue Team.

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March 9th, 519 AVC.

Abserdia wrote:
Cisairse wrote:(Image)

How am I supposed to change this?

Honestly, for 100% of my Imperator playtime I've had that in my alert bar. So I have no clue.


Solid.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:05 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Any tips for a Fanatic Purifier run/build?

Militarist or Spiritualist?
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:57 pm

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Looks like I won the race. Time to clean up the mess.
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Postby Slutsk Horde » Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:03 pm

Cisairse wrote:(Image)

Looks like I won the race. Time to clean up the mess.

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