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Europa Universalis
14
13%
Victoria
17
15%
Crusader Kings
24
22%
Hearts of Iron
22
20%
Stellaris
23
21%
One of those weird "published by PDX" games that nobody ever talks about here
10
9%
 
Total votes : 110

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The Batavia
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Founded: May 08, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Batavia » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:20 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Managed a good start on a The Knights game finally.

Allied venice, took Byzantium. Waited for the Ottomans to derp around with the Mamluks, waited a year or two, attacked, have now seized all their greek states on the coast, vastly improving my ability to solo them if necessary, but especially improving my chances with the Venetian fleet as backup.

Now it's just a matter of eating the ottomans over a series of wars, and marching to Jerusalem after that. Then constant crusading time. The entirety of Asia is open to us.

May also slowly nibble at france until I can maybe just outright replace them at some point, and end up being "France" (With the Jerusalem mechanics and buffs) for a new mission tree and for the lulz.


Ideas i'm planning on:

Religious
Influence
Divine
Admin
Trade
Offensive
Economic
Quality

Divine+Admin for a further 5% core cost reduction seems nice.


A note to those who want to try it:

The Malta base is absolutely essential. With constant raiding whenever you can, you will still have a long-term budget deficit. With malta added to increase your range, you will just about be breaking even, albeit taking loans and paying them off towards the tail end.

With constantinople added too, you will be slightly profitable in the long term as you add the black sea to possible raiding locations.

At this point I took the papal "get rid of inflation" buff because i'm a perfectionist ;p

You should take Quantity along with the Religious ideas. The policy you get grants you +10% morale and +5% manpower recovery speed.
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Grenartia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:39 pm



Hentai? In my history-based videosgame?
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Auze
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Ex-Nation

Postby Auze » Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:03 am

Grenartia wrote:


Hentai? In my history-based videosgame?

The only art invention in the game to reduce prestige.
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Anyway, how about a game?
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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:32 am

AuZe wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Hentai? In my history-based videosgame?

The only art invention in the game to reduce prestige.

I dunno about that. I've . . . uh . . . heard from others that when hentai involved, there's a lot of inflation of "prestige."
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Salus Maior
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Ex-Nation

Postby Salus Maior » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:34 pm

Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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HISPIDA
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Anarchy

Postby HISPIDA » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:54 pm

Algerstonia did nothing wrong. Hold Moderators accountable. (she/they)
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:19 am

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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:08 am

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:48 pm


Syke, it's a reworked Urkainian focus tree.
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Crysuko
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:07 pm

Baltic focus trees for KR are out (soon?)
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

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Washington Resistance Army
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:06 am

I am dying to play CK3 but I just can't bring myself to do it until the new DLC drops. Curse you Paradox.
Hellenic Polytheist, Socialist

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Ifreann
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Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:20 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I am dying to play CK3 but I just can't bring myself to do it until the new DLC drops. Curse you Paradox.

The curse of keeping up with the dev diaries.
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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:54 am

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Salus Maior
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Ex-Nation

Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:23 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I am dying to play CK3 but I just can't bring myself to do it until the new DLC drops. Curse you Paradox.


I’m resisting the urge to get a new pdox game.

I mean, I’ve already poured my life savings into buying all the CK2, EU4, and HOI4 dlc over the years. I don’t think I want to keep playing with their selling model.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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HISPIDA
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Anarchy

Postby HISPIDA » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:36 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I am dying to play CK3 but I just can't bring myself to do it until the new DLC drops. Curse you Paradox.


I’m resisting the urge to get a new pdox game.

I mean, I’ve already poured my life savings into buying all the CK2, EU4, and HOI4 dlc over the years. I don’t think I want to keep playing with their selling model.

The secret ingredient is crime.*


*Despite my views on copyright, I'm not condoning this. Blah, blah, blah, it's a joke.
Algerstonia did nothing wrong. Hold Moderators accountable. (she/they)
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read my iiwiki
free palestine. trans rights are human rights. no war but class war
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Impaled Nazarene
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Ex-Nation

Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:58 am

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Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

-said no one ever. I made these words up.
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Grenartia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:01 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:

Wait this isn't war crimes


That's their second favorite. Its easy to get them mixed up.
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Reject tradition, embrace modernity.
People who call themselves based NEVER are.
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Salus Maior
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Ex-Nation

Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:14 am

Grenartia wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Wait this isn't war crimes


That's their second favorite. Its easy to get them mixed up.


Sometimes they’re the same thing.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Renoa
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Renoa » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:35 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I am dying to play CK3 but I just can't bring myself to do it until the new DLC drops. Curse you Paradox.


I’m resisting the urge to get a new pdox game.

I mean, I’ve already poured my life savings into buying all the CK2, EU4, and HOI4 dlc over the years. I don’t think I want to keep playing with their selling model.

*Makarov voice* Remember, no preorders.
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The Batavia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Batavia » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:48 am

Played a bit of Qara Qoyunlu, saw my economy was shit, tried to conquer territories from Ajam, rage-quitted after it went to shit.'

Anyway, I might retry after watching a guide, or continue my Spain campaign, or maybe play Milan.
Ditched my old signature. Will be making a pretty looking one when I find the time.
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Bralia
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Founded: Mar 07, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:24 am

A deeper than usual look at the technical side of development, from the CK3 devs.

Advertised as "not a Dev Diary", but still presumably interesting if you can follow it . . . which I cannot.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:36 am

Have they said when the next HOI4 DLC is releasing?
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HISPIDA
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Anarchy

Postby HISPIDA » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:05 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Have they said when the next HOI4 DLC is releasing?

After this summer, I presume. The devs mentioned they were taking a summer break. If I had to guess, I'll guess either in late autumn or early winter, early 2022 at the latest.
Algerstonia did nothing wrong. Hold Moderators accountable. (she/they)
"We have liberated Europe from fascism, and they will never forgive us for it." - Georgy Zhukov (purportedly)
read my iiwiki
free palestine. trans rights are human rights. no war but class war
Victory Day: February 23, 2022

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Heloin
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Ex-Nation

Postby Heloin » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:18 pm

Hispida wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Have they said when the next HOI4 DLC is releasing?

After this summer, I presume. The devs mentioned they were taking a summer break. If I had to guess, I'll guess either in late autumn or early winter, early 2022 at the latest.

28th of July, 2022.

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Herador
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Herador » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:31 pm

Heloin wrote:
Hispida wrote:After this summer, I presume. The devs mentioned they were taking a summer break. If I had to guess, I'll guess either in late autumn or early winter, early 2022 at the latest.

28th of July, 2022.

Please, my son is very sick and the only thing that will help is a tank designer.
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