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Europa Universalis
14
13%
Victoria
17
15%
Crusader Kings
24
22%
Hearts of Iron
22
20%
Stellaris
23
21%
One of those weird "published by PDX" games that nobody ever talks about here
10
9%
 
Total votes : 110

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:48 pm

The Batavia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Go west young Mongol

Hm, Oirat then?

No Mongolia.

Then you break free of Oirat and subjugate the world beneath the great blue sky
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The Batavia
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Postby The Batavia » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:50 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Batavia wrote:Hm, Oirat then?

No Mongolia.

Then you break free of Oirat and subjugate the world beneath the great blue sky

Hm, how hard is it to do then?
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Postby Heloin » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:51 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Batavia wrote:Does anyone know any fun horde nations in EU4 I should try? I've never really played anything aside from European countries and the Ottomans before so this might be a breath of fresh air.
Go west young Mongol

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:15 pm

The Batavia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:No Mongolia.

Then you break free of Oirat and subjugate the world beneath the great blue sky

Hm, how hard is it to do then?

I did it once a few years back and conquered most of Asia and Russia in a few hundred years. Though that was... years ago like i said so i dont know how it would be with all the new dlc etc. Also im near certain i used an overhaul mod.

But it was still a lot of fun.
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The Batavia
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Postby The Batavia » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:39 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Batavia wrote:Hm, how hard is it to do then?

I did it once a few years back and conquered most of Asia and Russia in a few hundred years. Though that was... years ago like i said so i dont know how it would be with all the new dlc etc. Also im near certain i used an overhaul mod.

But it was still a lot of fun.

Well, I'll certainly try to whenever I feel like playing hordes. I still have a Spain campaign going on currently but playing two camapigns at the same time never hurt anyone.
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Postby Bralia » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:39 pm

The Batavia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I did it once a few years back and conquered most of Asia and Russia in a few hundred years. Though that was... years ago like i said so i dont know how it would be with all the new dlc etc. Also im near certain i used an overhaul mod.

But it was still a lot of fun.

Well, I'll certainly try to whenever I feel like playing hordes. I still have a Spain campaign going on currently but playing two camapigns at the same time never hurt anyone.

I had a friend who played three concurrent games of Victoria 2. He died in a car crash before he could complete any of them. Learn from his lesson. Don't play too many campaigns at once.
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Postby Bralia » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:44 am

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Postby Heloin » Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:13 am

Bralia wrote:
The Batavia wrote:Well, I'll certainly try to whenever I feel like playing hordes. I still have a Spain campaign going on currently but playing two camapigns at the same time never hurt anyone.

I had a friend who played three concurrent games of Victoria 2. He died in a car crash before he could complete any of them. Learn from his lesson. Don't play too many campaigns at once.

It’s dangerous to play even one game of Vicky 2 while driving.

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The Batavia
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Postby The Batavia » Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:17 am

Bralia wrote:
The Batavia wrote:Well, I'll certainly try to whenever I feel like playing hordes. I still have a Spain campaign going on currently but playing two camapigns at the same time never hurt anyone.

I had a friend who played three concurrent games of Victoria 2. He died in a car crash before he could complete any of them. Learn from his lesson. Don't play too many campaigns at once.

Good thing I don't have a driver's license then.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:49 pm

The Batavia wrote:
Bralia wrote:I had a friend who played three concurrent games of Victoria 2. He died in a car crash before he could complete any of them. Learn from his lesson. Don't play too many campaigns at once.

Good thing I don't have a driver's license then.

That doesn't make it safer to drive!
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:03 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
The Batavia wrote:Good thing I don't have a driver's license then.

That doesn't make it safer to drive!

Traffic laws can't stop me because I can't read.

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Postby Herador » Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:39 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:That doesn't make it safer to drive!

Traffic laws can't stop me because I can't read.

A kid I work with honest to Christ didn't know what "Yield" meant until I told him a week ago.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:36 pm

So, since I'm waiting on stuff in CK3 still, I decided to load up CK2 and play some After the End and man this mod is just too great. Restoring America is 10/10 fun, would recommend.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So, since I'm waiting on stuff in CK3 still, I decided to load up CK2 and play some After the End and man this mod is just too great. Restoring America is 10/10 fun, would recommend.


Louisiana colonizing Texas and Florida is pretty based.
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Postby Renoa » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:00 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So, since I'm waiting on stuff in CK3 still, I decided to load up CK2 and play some After the End and man this mod is just too great. Restoring America is 10/10 fun, would recommend.


Louisiana colonizing Texas and Florida is pretty based.

The entire Gulf coast from Corpus Christi to Tampa is rightful Louisianian clay.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:03 pm

Renoa wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Louisiana colonizing Texas and Florida is pretty based.

The entire Gulf coast from Corpus Christi to Tampa is rightful Louisianian clay.


That's not the enire Gulf Coast. Its from Brownsville to...Miami, I guess? Oh, and the keys.
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Postby Renoa » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:11 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Renoa wrote:The entire Gulf coast from Corpus Christi to Tampa is rightful Louisianian clay.


That's not the enire Gulf Coast. Its from Brownsville to...Miami, I guess? Oh, and the keys.

I just figured those were reasonable boundaries to what our rightful territory is. Anything beyond that is lagniappe.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:37 pm

Renoa wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
That's not the enire Gulf Coast. Its from Brownsville to...Miami, I guess? Oh, and the keys.

I just figured those were reasonable boundaries to what our rightful territory is. Anything beyond that is lagniappe.


Eh, I'd say what I mentioned is reasonable. And everything else is lagniappe. :p
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:58 am

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Postby Bralia » Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:58 am

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Postby Heloin » Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:08 am


And it's cheer up me lads, let your hearts never fail
For the bonny ship, the Diamond, goes a-fishing for the whale

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Postby HISPIDA » Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:55 am

Heloin wrote:

And it's cheer up me lads, let your hearts never fail
For the bonny ship, the Diamond, goes a-fishing for the whale

Along the quay of Peterhead, the lasses stand around
Wi' their shawls all pulled around
Their necks and the salt tears runnin' down
Well don't you weep, my bonny lass, though you'll be left behind
For the rose will bloom on Greenland's ice before we change our mind

Also, relevant (and better, fight me) Longest Johns song:

It's a damn tough life full of toil and strife
We whalermen undergo
And we won't give a damn when the gale is done
How hard the winds do blow

For we're homeward bound from the Arctic Gound
With a good ship taut and free
And we don't give a damn when we drink our rum
With the girls of Old Maui

Rolling down to Old Maui, me boys
Rolling down to Old Maui
We're homeward bound from the Arctic Ground
Rolling down to Old Maui
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:18 pm

Managed a good start on a The Knights game finally.

Allied venice, took Byzantium. Waited for the Ottomans to derp around with the Mamluks, waited a year or two, attacked, have now seized all their greek states on the coast, vastly improving my ability to solo them if necessary, but especially improving my chances with the Venetian fleet as backup.

Now it's just a matter of eating the ottomans over a series of wars, and marching to Jerusalem after that. Then constant crusading time. The entirety of Asia is open to us.

May also slowly nibble at france until I can maybe just outright replace them at some point, and end up being "France" (With the Jerusalem mechanics and buffs) for a new mission tree and for the lulz.


Ideas i'm planning on:

Religious
Influence
Divine
Admin
Trade
Offensive
Economic
Quality

Divine+Admin for a further 5% core cost reduction seems nice.


A note to those who want to try it:

The Malta base is absolutely essential. With constant raiding whenever you can, you will still have a long-term budget deficit. With malta added to increase your range, you will just about be breaking even, albeit taking loans and paying them off towards the tail end.

With constantinople added too, you will be slightly profitable in the long term as you add the black sea to possible raiding locations.

At this point I took the papal "get rid of inflation" buff because i'm a perfectionist ;p
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Postby HISPIDA » Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:33 pm

Finally finished my first Vic2 campaign. Played as the USA, made a Great Society (troll). Largest party is the Socialist Party, passed all welfare reforms, got proportional representation. Total population of around 120 million, largest navy (70 ships), one of the largest armies, and a GDP of around 30 million pounds ($154 million USD, $3 billion USD today).
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:18 pm

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I like Miniature painting, Tanks, English Gals, Video games and most importantly Cheese.


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