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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:12 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:Still not sure if i'm Hoi4ing correctly...

Templates:

Infantry:
7 Infantry, 2 Artillery. With Support: Artillery, Anti-Tank, Anti-Air, Rocket Artillery, Recon.
(14/4 as appropriate, Mechanize as appropriate, switching to motorized artillery).

Medium Tank Division:
10 Mech Infantry, 4 Motorized Artillery, 4 Medium Tanks. (Same support companies).

Heavy Tank Division:
As above, but heavy tanks.


Am I doing it right?
I get the feeling that maybe I should add more tanks to my tank divisions but have less of them maybe.

Currently I tend to go for 5 or 7 infantry armies, 5 tanks (4 med, 1 heavy).


Also... ARTILLERY! SUPERIOR FIREPOWER!

Those seem like standard go to divisions honestly. I use 7/2 infantry a lot myself, its just a good reliable Infantry Division.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:24 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Those seem like standard go to divisions honestly. I use 7/2 infantry a lot myself, its just a good reliable Infantry Division.

I believe that 7/2 is no longer meta, unless your country is extremely short on manpower.

Based on various discussions on Steam and Reddit the recent consensus seems to be that 7/2 doesn't offer enough advantages over 20-width pure infantry with supporting artillery to justify the extra industrial expense of making that much artillery, and that if you have the factories to do that you should put it into tanks instead.

I haven't played remotely near enough games to notice the difference, but that's what other people tell me.
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Postby Bralia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:03 am

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Postby Gemeanwealth of Man » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:34 am


Nearly every time Stellaris works on a new content pack, I want to stop playing the game and wait for the new content to drop because it's just that much more interesting. Spycraft in Stellaris? I'm gonna love it tbh. Can't come soon enough.

Unrelated. This might be the first time I've seen a Fallen Empire attack an AI this early in the game. Wonder what the poor shmucks did to offend them.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:47 am

Gemeanwealth of Man wrote:

Nearly every time Stellaris works on a new content pack, I want to stop playing the game and wait for the new content to drop because it's just that much more interesting. Spycraft in Stellaris? I'm gonna love it tbh. Can't come soon enough.

Unrelated. This might be the first time I've seen a Fallen Empire attack an AI this early in the game. Wonder what the poor shmucks did to offend them.

Yup I've stopped my current playthrough and put Stellaris on a backburner until the espionage pack is released.
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Postby The Hindustani State » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:28 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Atheris wrote:Okay, I'm interested. Not the USSR, but I'd like flavor for Thailand, DEI, Malaya, Italy, and maybe French Indochina.


White Russia was based. Glorious Empress Anastasia throws out the usurping reds and establishes the Holy Empire of All Russia.

Go support genocide elsewhere

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Postby The Hindustani State » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:30 am

Serrus wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ideally imo the USSR should have about 4-5 different political paths it can go down.

Stalinism
Trotskyism
Non Aligned (Probably to restore the Empire or for a military dictatorship or something)
Democratic

And maybe throw in another Communist/Socialist path too. I dont think the USSR should have a fascist tree, the same way Germany doesnt have a communist one. The Great purge should be part of the Stalinist tree or its own full fledged tree and there should be a really substantial Industry tree too.

Germany is apparently going to be considered for a communist tree when they go rework the USSR. Or at least that's what I remember from some comments on the DD.
So, yes, Rodzaevsky should get his tree, if only BECAUSE of how stupid it is

I’m surprised Germany doesn’t have a Strasserist tree

I think what they did for France was really good, fairly well rounded options for all political ideologies with a separate tree for industry and military stuff, imo that should be the way the majors are structured. For minors, I like what they did with Turkey
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Postby The Hindustani State » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:34 am

Atheris wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Rumours are the next HOI4 country pack will be focused on Southeast Asia and Italy

Okay, I'm interested. Not the USSR, but I'd like flavor for Thailand, DEI, Malaya, Italy, and maybe French Indochina.

I think the focuses for those should be structured like the ones for the Balkan countries, basically pick a side and survive/make the most gains, but instead of Axis and allies, it’s between Japan, allies, and full independence. DEI will probably get Suharto
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:38 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:If the USSR doesnt get a rework they can fuck off honestly.

The soviet focus tree is shite compared to basically every other major except Italy and most minors have better trees too.

I think they’re doing one major per country pack, so if the next one gives focuses for Italy, Siam, Indonesia, etc. then the one after that (I can only assume that would be South America) would work on the USSR focus

If they do one for USSR, I’ll bet it allows you to play as the White Army and restart the civil war, in that case, there better be a path to go full von Sternberg and recreate the Mongol Empire


Unfathomably based. I once tried a Siam playthrough and it felt rather lackluster. Hopefully this will fix it.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:23 pm

The Hindustani State wrote:
Serrus wrote:Germany is apparently going to be considered for a communist tree when they go rework the USSR. Or at least that's what I remember from some comments on the DD.
So, yes, Rodzaevsky should get his tree, if only BECAUSE of how stupid it is

I’m surprised Germany doesn’t have a Strasserist tree

I think what they did for France was really good, fairly well rounded options for all political ideologies with a separate tree for industry and military stuff, imo that should be the way the majors are structured. For minors, I like what they did with Turkey


Strasserist policy isn't distinct enough from normal Nazi policy to really be factored into HoI4 I feel.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:14 am

Serrus wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ideally imo the USSR should have about 4-5 different political paths it can go down.

Stalinism
Trotskyism
Non Aligned (Probably to restore the Empire or for a military dictatorship or something)
Democratic

And maybe throw in another Communist/Socialist path too. I dont think the USSR should have a fascist tree, the same way Germany doesnt have a communist one. The Great purge should be part of the Stalinist tree or its own full fledged tree and there should be a really substantial Industry tree too.

Germany is apparently going to be considered for a communist tree when they go rework the USSR. Or at least that's what I remember from some comments on the DD.
So, yes, Rodzaevsky should get his tree, if only BECAUSE of how stupid it is

Fuck yeah, they remembered the USSR!
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Postby Renoa » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:08 pm

I am having huge issues with how ridiculously small diplomatic range is in CK3, even on the default setting. I understand not being able to contact India as Norway, but I can't even contact the Byzantines as Castile. My son married a woman who inherited a barony in Poland and I can't bring him back, so I can only hope to God he doesn't raise my grandchildren as Poles and matrilineally marry his sons to 70 year old lowborn women.

I also hate how it seems to be impossible for adults to lose or change traits once they come of age. My current character is still inappetetic in his 50s because he had a bit of a rough time with stress when he was 23.
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Postby Andsed » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:05 pm

So I just got Stellaris and I am obviously going for the military conquer shit rout. Any tips for that?
I do be tired


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Postby Dakran » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:58 pm

Andsed wrote:So I just got Stellaris and I am obviously going for the military conquer shit rout. Any tips for that?

If you think you have enough ships, you're wrong.
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Postby Abserdia » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:08 pm

Andsed wrote:So I just got Stellaris and I am obviously going for the military conquer shit rout. Any tips for that?

Engineering tech should be your primary focus.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:09 pm

I've been playing TNO mod as italy a bit because I like playing the fiddle. But I've kinda ran into a problem with the border dispute wars. It's like I'm not allowed to engage in the war to protect my puppets and colonies, but Spain and turkey can charge their armies right in? Am I missing something or am I just supposed to lose them?
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:27 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:I've been playing TNO mod as italy a bit because I like playing the fiddle. But I've kinda ran into a problem with the border dispute wars. It's like I'm not allowed to engage in the war to protect my puppets and colonies, but Spain and turkey can charge their armies right in? Am I missing something or am I just supposed to lose them?


Send volunteers is the most likely solution.
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Postby Andsed » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:39 pm

Dakran wrote:
Andsed wrote:So I just got Stellaris and I am obviously going for the military conquer shit rout. Any tips for that?

If you think you have enough ships, you're wrong.


Abserdia wrote:
Andsed wrote:So I just got Stellaris and I am obviously going for the military conquer shit rout. Any tips for that?

Engineering tech should be your primary focus.


Thanks for the tips. I just won my first war against some insect fucks and took two systems. Sadly no colonies so I cant purge them, yet.
I do be tired


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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:51 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:I've been playing TNO mod as italy a bit because I like playing the fiddle. But I've kinda ran into a problem with the border dispute wars. It's like I'm not allowed to engage in the war to protect my puppets and colonies, but Spain and turkey can charge their armies right in? Am I missing something or am I just supposed to lose them?


Send volunteers is the most likely solution.

I'll see if that works. I tried sending guns awhile back but that barely did anything. It's almost a joke how polarizing the results are. I can kick turkeys ass by protecting islands and take parts of the anatolian coast, but my vassals can't win for the life of them.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:54 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Send volunteers is the most likely solution.

I'll see if that works. I tried sending guns awhile back but that barely did anything. It's almost a joke how polarizing the results are. I can kick turkeys ass by protecting islands and take parts of the anatolian coast, but my vassals can't win for the life of them.


Generally all wars in TNO as a major involve lots of volunteers. SAW and Indo are the big two, but I imagine its similar for the others.

Also make sure to send volunteer air wings. They'll be very helpful.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:58 pm

Andsed wrote:
Dakran wrote:If you think you have enough ships, you're wrong.


Abserdia wrote:Engineering tech should be your primary focus.


Thanks for the tips. I just won my first war against some insect fucks and took two systems. Sadly no colonies so I cant purge them, yet.

Automatic ship design is shit. Always make your own ships.
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Postby Gemeanwealth of Man » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:02 pm

Andsed wrote:So I just got Stellaris and I am obviously going for the military conquer shit rout. Any tips for that?

Bulk up military academies and strongholds in your frontier worlds and alloys+consumer goods in your core worlds. Concentrate mostly on the naval doctrines (the ones that increase fleet size+theo nes that increase naval size) in society, but other than that engineering is your friend. Oh, and never leave the designing to the AI.
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Postby Gemeanwealth of Man » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:32 am

I'm sure this galaxy is a great place for people to live in.Virtually everyone we've contacted yet is hardwired to fight everyone else to form hegemony.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:37 am

Gemeanwealth of Man wrote:I'm sure this galaxy is a great place for people to live in.Virtually everyone we've contacted yet is hardwired to fight everyone else to form hegemony.

Everyone should form military alliances and pacts with one another.

That way it totally wont escalate into a full scale galactic war where billions die.
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Postby Gemeanwealth of Man » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:44 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Gemeanwealth of Man wrote:I'm sure this galaxy is a great place for people to live in.Virtually everyone we've contacted yet is hardwired to fight everyone else to form hegemony.

Everyone should form military alliances and pacts with one another.

That way it totally wont escalate into a full scale galactic war where billions die.

As you can see on the image, I'm allied with (for all intents and purposes) two different states. What you probably can't see is that those two states rival each other, and I allied them because a third state -which they both also rival- rivalled me.
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