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Europa Universalis
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13%
Victoria
17
15%
Crusader Kings
24
22%
Hearts of Iron
22
20%
Stellaris
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21%
One of those weird "published by PDX" games that nobody ever talks about here
10
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Total votes : 110

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:40 am

Heloin wrote:I haven't gotten to play today thanks to work and other stupid real world obligations. I only just got home an hour ago and decided to just play a bit before I go to bed. I accidentally got into an affair with my sons wife, was invaded by all three neighbouring kingdoms, witnessed my son dying in battle which caused me to fall into a such a terrible depression that I got drunk and drowned in a bog. Then I lost the war as a 2 month old toddler and got a game over.

I'm glad to report CK3 is still good ole' Crusader Kings.

Im just buying it now as im doing a lot of house work atm but ive been watching lots of videos on youtube and reading reviews. I really like what ive seen.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:02 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Heloin wrote:I haven't gotten to play today thanks to work and other stupid real world obligations. I only just got home an hour ago and decided to just play a bit before I go to bed. I accidentally got into an affair with my sons wife, was invaded by all three neighbouring kingdoms, witnessed my son dying in battle which caused me to fall into a such a terrible depression that I got drunk and drowned in a bog. Then I lost the war as a 2 month old toddler and got a game over.

I'm glad to report CK3 is still good ole' Crusader Kings.

Im just buying it now as im doing a lot of house work atm but ive been watching lots of videos on youtube and reading reviews. I really like what ive seen.

Thus far (after I think 10 hours of playing) my main problem is with the infobox mechanics, but in that getting the second infobox is a bit tricky, though I guess it's intentionally that way. I like most of the stuff I'm seeing thus far. Especially dynasty mechanics. Right now, my landless heir is the head of my dynasty. Which is amazing af.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:39 am

So loaded up a game as the count of Ulster in 867. It went well. Till the Vikings showed up and it went swiftly unwell so time to restart.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:55 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So loaded up a game as the count of Ulster in 867. It went well. Till the Vikings showed up and it went swiftly unwell so time to restart.

Considering you're an Irishman i figured you'd be well aware of what was going on at that point in Irish history.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:00 am

Not a fan of having to relearn menus and game concepts, but we'll see how this goes.

I invaded the Umayyads as Haesteinn (classic) but couldn't figure out how the standard trick of inviting couriters to make into cool viking vassals worked, so I quickly had to give up after inheritance.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:01 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So loaded up a game as the count of Ulster in 867. It went well. Till the Vikings showed up and it went swiftly unwell so time to restart.

Considering you're an Irishman i figured you'd be well aware of what was going on at that point in Irish history.

Oh i am. I just wanted to play in my own backyard for my first run.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:15 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:So loaded up a game as the count of Ulster in 867. It went well. Till the Vikings showed up and it went swiftly unwell so time to restart.

Ulster
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Centuries ago the four provinces lived in harmony. Then everything changed when the Vikings attacked.
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Postby Velosia » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:34 am

As a Wiltshire lad, I though I'd go with Æthelred of Wessex for my first playthrough. I found it fairly easy in CK2 so I thought it'd be a start I could do well in, but fun fact... no. Either CK3 is much harder than CK2 or I am just not used to exploiting controlling all these new mechanics yet. I got my arse handed to me by seemingly infinite hordes of Danish invaders with ridiculously large armies (I could only muster an army of 600ish, whilst even the lowliest of Norse petty kings had 1500+ elite quality troops).

Was slightly easier as Alfred since I could reinforce my brother's armies as his ally, essentially doubling the size of the Wessex army, but we still got overrun.

Time for a trusty 1066 Ireland start, I think!
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Postby Solarampa » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:40 am

Velosia wrote:As a Wiltshire lad, I though I'd go with Æthelred of Wessex for my first playthrough. I found it fairly easy in CK2 so I thought it'd be a start I could do well in, but fun fact... no. Either CK3 is much harder than CK2 or I am just not used to exploiting controlling all these new mechanics yet. I got my arse handed to me by seemingly infinite hordes of Danish invaders with ridiculously large armies (I could only muster an army of 600ish, whilst even the lowliest of Norse petty kings had 1500+ elite quality troops).

Was slightly easier as Alfred since I could reinforce my brother's armies as his ally, essentially doubling the size of the Wessex army, but we still got overrun.

Time for a trusty 1066 Ireland start, I think!


I would say that there is a chance that they buy mercenaries. They do boost your army size decently.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:57 am

I forgot how much i used to hate the O'Neil Dynasty.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:32 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I forgot how much i used to hate the O'Neil Dynasty.

Fun fact that's my step-dads last name, when I told him about the historical dynasty he wouldn't shut up about him being 'royalty'. :roll:
Ugh, plebs.

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Postby Abserdia » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:36 am

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:03 pm

Does the amount of levies your tribal vassals give you increase over time or do you have to do something?



Omg im a complete novice all over again
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:06 pm

found this on reddit





tfw no soulmate anglo-saxon waifu

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:09 pm

booo triple post booo but my biggest pet peeve with CK3 so far is the lack of allied coordination buttons. There needs to be a "Follow this army" button and a "Siege this holding" button whilst at war.
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Postby Abserdia » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:07 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Does the amount of levies your tribal vassals give you increase over time or do you have to do something?



Omg im a complete novice all over again

I think the big deciding factor there is your Level of Fame.
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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:21 pm

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Impaled Nazarene wrote:I say skip it unless its on sale for dirt cheap. Its still not very fun.

Going to second this. The game still feels very barren. If you play on spot on the map you've played pretty much every spot on the map. The only nation's with real charecter to them are Rome and Carthage.

If you have Magna Graeca then the Greek countries all have unique character, and the new Epirus expansion added a whole lot of stuff to Epirus
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:01 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
Ithalian Empire wrote:Going to second this. The game still feels very barren. If you play on spot on the map you've played pretty much every spot on the map. The only nation's with real charecter to them are Rome and Carthage.

If you have Magna Graeca then the Greek countries all have unique character, and the new Epirus expansion added a whole lot of stuff to Epirus


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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:29 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:If you have Magna Graeca then the Greek countries all have unique character, and the new Epirus expansion added a whole lot of stuff to Epirus


I shouldn't need to pay for something to add stuff in an unfinished game.

That’s your choice, I personally think Imperator is very fun, if you play the countries with character and flavor, which right now are Rome, Carthage, the Greek countries with Magna Graeca and Epirus. If I’m being honest though this game has huge potential to be as immersive as CK games are whilst maintaining the stately history-building feel of EU4. I cut my EU4 campaign short to try out Epirus when it came out and it was totally worth it
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:21 pm

Been playing CK3, and I find it to be most enjoyable. Besides the tutorial and clicking 'round the map, my first real game was a run as Rurik in 867. Didn't do anything major, formed Novgorod and yoinked White 'Rus, and even called quits before Rurik croaked, that's about it. Still was quite fun nonetheless. I logged in about 2 hours like that, so I didn't really get to experience to much of the CK3 iceberg, but I don't know, maybe I'm easily impressed or something.
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Postby Bralia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:39 am

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:28 am

Alright im basically sandwiched between three big norse powers, think its time to swear fealty to the queen of the isles and then just build myself up from with in and wait for an opportunity to break free when the Norse, hopefully, start taking a beating.


edit: so we are the same rank lol so i cant swear fealty to her, but i knocked her up instead.
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Postby Plzen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:57 am

First serious campaign as Sigurdr of Sjælland in the 867 start, and, well...

My “allies” in Scandinavia and the British Isles have spent the first 15 years of the game dragging me into one pointless war after another, often several at a time, and the Geats seem enthusiastic for my territory.

I think I’ll start ignoring these calls to arm.

At least nobody can say that this game has a passive AI.

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Postby Bralia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:27 am

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:39 am

Plzen wrote:First serious campaign as Sigurdr of Sjælland in the 867 start, and, well...

My “allies” in Scandinavia and the British Isles have spent the first 15 years of the game dragging me into one pointless war after another, often several at a time, and the Geats seem enthusiastic for my territory.

I think I’ll start ignoring these calls to arm.

At least nobody can say that this game has a passive AI.

Cool thing is you can decline the call to arms and not lose your alliance, which is handy. Sometimes if its a far off war i know im in no real danger for ill just accept anyway and do what i was doing and just wait till it ends.
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