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Europa Universalis
14
13%
Victoria
17
15%
Crusader Kings
24
22%
Hearts of Iron
22
20%
Stellaris
23
21%
One of those weird "published by PDX" games that nobody ever talks about here
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Postby Heloin » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:06 am

Purpelia wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:2 is a completely different beast to 4 though. 2 I can play vanilla, 4 I just can't. There's just too much micromanagement in 4 compared to 2 in the combat side of things.

The key to playing 4 is simple. Pause often and judiciously. Don't try and micromanage unpaused. Pause, think, plan, micro -> execute -> repeat.

3 is just ORBAT simulator. Like if you don't have a 1st Jan 1936 save as the Soviets where you fixed their ORBAT you're doing it wrong.

3 was horrible for me. It was literally a mountain of boring administrative work and me constantly going: I just need to finish this bit and than I'll get to the game. And than another thing would come along. And another. And than I realized THAT WAS THE GAME. And that was it for me.

A game of HoI3 is spending hours reorganising the whole military then hitting unpause. After that is becomes Army Supply Management the Game.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:06 am

Heloin wrote:
Purpelia wrote:The key to playing 4 is simple. Pause often and judiciously. Don't try and micromanage unpaused. Pause, think, plan, micro -> execute -> repeat.


3 was horrible for me. It was literally a mountain of boring administrative work and me constantly going: I just need to finish this bit and than I'll get to the game. And than another thing would come along. And another. And than I realized THAT WAS THE GAME. And that was it for me.

A game of HoI3 is spending hours reorganising the whole military then hitting unpause. After that is becomes Army Supply Management the Game.

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Postby Heloin » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:13 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Heloin wrote:A game of HoI3 is spending hours reorganising the whole military then hitting unpause. After that is becomes Army Supply Management the Game.

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I miss the ability to airlift supplies literally forever. Minsk will never fall so long as I keep building enough potato planes.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:35 am

Purpelia wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:2 is a completely different beast to 4 though. 2 I can play vanilla, 4 I just can't. There's just too much micromanagement in 4 compared to 2 in the combat side of things.

The key to playing 4 is simple. Pause often and judiciously. Don't try and micromanage unpaused. Pause, think, plan, micro -> execute -> repeat.

3 is just ORBAT simulator. Like if you don't have a 1st Jan 1936 save as the Soviets where you fixed their ORBAT you're doing it wrong.

3 was horrible for me. It was literally a mountain of boring administrative work and me constantly going: I just need to finish this bit and than I'll get to the game. And than another thing would come along. And another. And than I realized THAT WAS THE GAME. And that was it for me.


I dislike pausing in game unless I absolutely have to, which is probably why I dislike it. 3 also suffers from a rather passive AI IIRC.
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Postby North German Realm » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:27 am

Playing one final round of CK2 before CK3 makes it obsolete to me. Decided to make my "last" game the same as my first (the original tutorial game I played years ago) and uhhhhh... The good news is her stats are good?
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:32 am

North German Realm wrote:Playing one final round of CK2 before CK3 makes it obsolete to me. Decided to make my "last" game the same as my first (the original tutorial game I played years ago) and uhhhhh... The good news is her stats are good?

Aww.... cute.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:33 pm

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Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:35 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:(Image)

Alarming if true.


If true is the important part. Source for the original poster, because at the moment this is some rando saying something that might be true, but has no proof.
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Postby Superduperkid » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:37 pm



Disappointed.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:38 pm

This person says outherwise


Best to take everything regarding the matter with a grain of salt i would say.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:38 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:This person says outherwise


Best to take everything regarding the matter with a grain of salt i would say.

Honestly haven't seen anything regarding Bloodlines untill this happened.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:40 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:This person says outherwise


Best to take everything regarding the matter with a grain of salt i would say.

Honestly haven't seen anything regarding Bloodlines untill this happened.


It looked promising, didn't like the thinblood mandatory starting clan or relegating the Nosferatu as a DLC clan, but overall I was pretty impressed with trailers and gameplay footage.

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Postby Renoa » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:28 pm

I converted the Italian/Lombard CK2 game I talked about a while back to EUIV.

I am just... revolted by the sight of it. I don't even know where to begin.
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Postby Heloin » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:26 pm

Renoa wrote:I converted the Italian/Lombard CK2 game I talked about a while back to EUIV.

I am just... revolted by the sight of it. I don't even know where to begin.

The fuck are the HRE doing with European Tribal Ideas?

The more I look at this the more I hate it.
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Postby Renoa » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:10 pm

Heloin wrote:
Renoa wrote:I converted the Italian/Lombard CK2 game I talked about a while back to EUIV.

I am just... revolted by the sight of it. I don't even know where to begin.

The fuck are the HRE doing with European Tribal Ideas?

The more I look at this the more I hate it.

I have no idea, every nation in Europe and lots of Asia has European Tribal ideas except one, I think either Hungary or Mongolia.
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Postby North German Realm » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:52 pm

North German Realm wrote:Playing one final round of CK2 before CK3 makes it obsolete to me. Decided to make my "last" game the same as my first (the original tutorial game I played years ago) and uhhhhh... The good news is her stats are good?

Jesus this woman's OP Are all Demonspawns this OP?
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPe » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:04 am

So, Austria got into a personal union with this one or two province minor called 'The P---'. I don't know if that's shocking to y'all but man does it feel great to own Austria somehow.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:48 am

North German Realm wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Playing one final round of CK2 before CK3 makes it obsolete to me. Decided to make my "last" game the same as my first (the original tutorial game I played years ago) and uhhhhh... The good news is her stats are good?

Jesus this woman's OP Are all Demonspawns this OP?

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:48 am

Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:So, Austria got into a personal union with this one or two province minor called 'The P---'. I don't know if that's shocking to y'all but man does it feel great to own Austria somehow.

The Palatinate?
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:31 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:So, Austria got into a personal union with this one or two province minor called 'The P---'. I don't know if that's shocking to y'all but man does it feel great to own Austria somehow.

The Palatinate?


That's the only EUIV nation with 'The' in it so yes.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:33 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:The Palatinate?


That's the only EUIV nation with 'The' in it so yes.

Is it? Huh
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Postby Hirota » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:35 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:The Palatinate?


That's the only EUIV nation with 'The' in it so yes.

No it isn''t.

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But you can't PU them.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:36 am

Hirota wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
That's the only EUIV nation with 'The' in it so yes.

No it isn''t.

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But you can't PU them.


Fuck, I thought they were just 'Papal States', not 'The Papal States'.

And that sounds like a challenge. It be Papal States time.
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPe » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:59 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Twicetagram and JYPe wrote:So, Austria got into a personal union with this one or two province minor called 'The P---'. I don't know if that's shocking to y'all but man does it feel great to own Austria somehow.

The Palatinate?

Should be.
Hirota wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
That's the only EUIV nation with 'The' in it so yes.

No it isn''t.

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But you can't PU them.

I just address them as Papal State or just Papal state or just Pope.
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