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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:28 pm

Random HOI4 question time. How effective do you guys think would a Japan strategy be to focus away from ships and go all in on fortifying the islands and loading them up with stupid numbers of NAV bombers?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:32 pm

Purpelia wrote:Random HOI4 question time. How effective do you guys think would a Japan strategy be to focus away from ships and go all in on fortifying the islands and loading them up with stupid numbers of NAV bombers?


Not very, you'll run out of fuel for the NAVs eventually.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:37 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Random HOI4 question time. How effective do you guys think would a Japan strategy be to focus away from ships and go all in on fortifying the islands and loading them up with stupid numbers of NAV bombers?


Not very, you'll run out of fuel for the NAVs eventually.

Do they really eat more than the navy though? I mean, this is assuming I keep my original navy so I can take the southern areas with oil. Just that I don't try and challenge the USN ship to ship but to bomb them to death.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:02 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Not very, you'll run out of fuel for the NAVs eventually.

Do they really eat more than the navy though? I mean, this is assuming I keep my original navy so I can take the southern areas with oil. Just that I don't try and challenge the USN ship to ship but to bomb them to death.


The problem there is getting the oil to Japan. Not sure if NAVs will be that good without escorting fleets, and I don't think the original fleet has enough.
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Danubian Peoples
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:04 pm

Brand new Galinda-Aestuia game!

Like I said, I've been playing I:R again. I've learned some interesting things in this run so far. First of all, I'd like to put it out there that vassalization is powerful. I used 'become tribal vassal' on several local powers to remove them from defensive leagues and alliances, since subjects are prohibited from having alliances. I use this to diplomatically isolate conquest targets that otherwise would've been too powerful for my tastes. Next, here's this quick way to colonize territories quickly. Just, take some eliigible pops (non-slave pops which are your religion and culture), and use the move function to ferry them to territories adjacent to whatever you're trying to colonize. Colonize the territory, and move those pops to the new territory, to circumvent the cooldown. Then repeat the process until you run out of coin.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:08 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Do they really eat more than the navy though? I mean, this is assuming I keep my original navy so I can take the southern areas with oil. Just that I don't try and challenge the USN ship to ship but to bomb them to death.


The problem there is getting the oil to Japan. Not sure if NAVs will be that good without escorting fleets, and I don't think the original fleet has enough.

I newer found the AI to make any sort of concerted effort to cut off my supplies ever. Not even playing as the UK vs Germany.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Danubian Peoples » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:10 am

Update

I cleaned up the borders, like I said I would. I only have one more tribal vassal to go through, then I'll be encircling the Baltic! Anyway, I have this on my hands for some reason. There are republics everywhere! Arvernia? Republic. icenia? Republic? Insubria? Republic. I don't think I have ever seen this many republics in Imperator Rome. My personal hunch is that me creating a republic has somehow upset some sort of internal balance between the forms of government, and the AI followed suit as a result. Come to think of it, the AI in general was really finnicky this game. For some reason (might have something to do with the abundance of republics actually), there is a lot more consolidation between the various barbarians north of Rome. Also, Rome is just not doing too hot this game. I mean, they are scary as heck with their 100 cohorts of most likely heavy infantry, but Carthage is still a thing, and a very big thing at that. It's even listed as a major power!
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Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

Valdez Islands is my puppet.

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Postby Bralia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:03 pm

Of all things, I was not expecting a late EUIV DD and no CK3 DD at all. CK3's on hiatus for two weeks, btw.
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:10 am

Aestia Update Again(some images were accidentally duplicated, sorry)

Finished the game at last. I'm currently thinking about what to play next. Thinking about forming Pretania, having another shot at Gaul, or maybe doing that Yuezhi thing.
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This nation does not reflect my IRL views on anything.
Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

Valdez Islands is my puppet.

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North German Realm
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:44 pm

Thinking about going on a kidnapper Norse Pagan CK2 run where I just raid and kidnap people from other realms, raise them as pagan norsemen and then kill them when they reach adulthood.
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Atheris
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Postby Atheris » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:07 pm

North German Realm wrote:Thinking about going on a kidnapper Norse Pagan CK2 run where I just raid and kidnap people from other realms, raise them as pagan norsemen and then kill them when they reach adulthood.

SWEDISH PAGANS!
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KILLING YOUR CHILDREN
BEFORE THEIR OWN CAN BE BORN!

OUT FROM ASGARD!
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:26 pm

North German Realm wrote:Thinking about going on a kidnapper Norse Pagan CK2 run where I just raid and kidnap people from other realms, raise them as pagan norsemen and then kill them when they reach adulthood.

The downside of such a run are: 1. I newer seem to get many prisoners. Especially not young maidens in the right age. 2. gravelkin ruins those I do get.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby North German Realm » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 am

Purpelia wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Thinking about going on a kidnapper Norse Pagan CK2 run where I just raid and kidnap people from other realms, raise them as pagan norsemen and then kill them when they reach adulthood.

The downside of such a run are: 1. I newer seem to get many prisoners. Especially not young maidens in the right age. 2. gravelkin ruins those I do get.
1- Join the Wolf Warriors, the perks pretty much make you take captives by the handful anytime you siege a castle (to the point where they actually become more of an annoyance). The actual problem is I never seem to get any useful captives.

2- Eh, I'm not talking about wife theft. I just wanna raid Paris, take all of the French King's children, wife and sisters hostage, then kill them one by one until he's the last one left.
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Norddeutscher Bund
Homepage || Overview | Sovereign | Chancellor | Military | Legislature || The World
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.

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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:03 am

North German Realm wrote:
Purpelia wrote:The downside of such a run are: 1. I newer seem to get many prisoners. Especially not young maidens in the right age. 2. gravelkin ruins those I do get.
1- Join the Wolf Warriors, the perks pretty much make you take captives by the handful anytime you siege a castle (to the point where they actually become more of an annoyance). The actual problem is I never seem to get any useful captives.

2- Eh, I'm not talking about wife theft. I just wanna raid Paris, take all of the French King's children, wife and sisters hostage, then kill them one by one until he's the last one left.


I prefer just kidnapping Popes repeatedly.
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:16 am

Please help

Picked up the Stellaris DLCs I didn't have and decided to start playing again.. Unfortunately it appears that I encountered a really weird bug. My main species rights are stuck at Transubstantiation Synthesis (used when pops are being assimilated), which means they have a permanent 25% malus to happiness, and don't use consumer goods at all. Please help.
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Valdez Islands is my puppet.

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Postby Renoa » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:06 am

It's been several years and I'm still the Paradox Thread's Self-Appointed Court Chaplain. No one's ever asked but I thought you should know.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:48 am

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Postby Bralia » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:19 am


The only thing that's decisively immersion breaking is that he's due to be married.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:15 pm

Given the more or less latest patches of CK2 what's the fastest civ to ditch gravelkin with as a Viking at the earliest start date? I basically want to try and recreate my Scandinavian empire from back in the day but am not sure if the fast-castle Denmark route works.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Renoa » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:16 pm

Tfw your own wife kidnaps you for no reason and makes you pay 250 gold to leave.

and then does it again a few years later

She must be amazing in bed to be able to get away with this, especially more than once. If it keeps happening and it proves to be more than just an inconvenience, her skull is going to end up sitting on my mantle.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:48 pm

I got the new HOI4 dlc and I have had no motivation to even try it lmao. This is what I should have expected from such a bad dlc policy.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:26 pm

Bralia wrote:

The only thing that's decisively immersion breaking is that he's due to be married.


No, that's just their dream system at work. He has a government-assigned girlfriend.
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Postby Bralia » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:37 pm

So I just realized that CK3 releases in less than two months. This is how delirium starts. Blissful ignorance of the passage of time turns into days being counted, every single day, hours turning into centuries. An existential struggle between my consciousness and the very fabric of time begins, threatening to consume and destroy me.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:53 pm

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:36 am

Bralia wrote:So I just realized that CK3 releases in less than two months. This is how delirium starts. Blissful ignorance of the passage of time turns into days being counted, every single day, hours turning into centuries. An existential struggle between my consciousness and the very fabric of time begins, threatening to consume and destroy me.

Bet you it gets delayed
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