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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:00 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:I'm really going to need that defensive pact question answered.. the HRE in my Maghreb game has come down on me with an embargo war and I did not like it one bit. Sure I did not lose all that much but I saw first hand multiple 20K stacks in Sardinia. Are there mods that make defensive pacts useful in a sense? Marriage alliances have failed in my game due to the enormous 'political concerns' bulls***. Like, there's this fucking HRE, Byzantium, aren't you going to do something other than stand there? And it does not help that the HRE's government is extremely conducive to realm stability. The elective system they use produces next to no civil wars by the looks of it, very different from the Byzantine house fire southeast, and for some reason anyone on the throne is guaranteed to be popular as fuck. This what I am concerened about since I am gonna be playing as a Muslim. I do not want an empire stretching from Spain to Hungary crusading my saracen ass. Please help. Should I just swallow the defensive pact pill and pray to Allah that it'll be enough to hold down the Christians? I mean even if I'm trying to knock them down pegs, by seizing their holy sites, unlanding the pope, beating them to Jerusalem they still find a way to be so absurdly powerful. I think Catholicism needs a nerf. Any mods on Steam that do that?Oh and a pic of the thing Voltaire has nightmares about.



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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:53 am

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Postby Panslav » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:03 am

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- Reaction is going in the direction opposite of progress. Have you heard of Order No. 227? "No one step back!"
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Postby North German Realm » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:17 am


And furthermore, how did you get the character overview to get that long? I downloaded the mod that is supposed to do it but it doesn't work.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:44 am


"In Heavens Graphics overhaul lite" (for ironman, not lite version for non ironman) with the following mods:

"Revolutionary Borders"
"Revolutionary Map Font"
"Revolutionary Tooltip"
"Revolutionary Water"

North German Realm wrote:
Panslav wrote:
What graphical mod?

And furthermore, how did you get the character overview to get that long? I downloaded the mod that is supposed to do it but it doesn't work.
"A Bigger Interace" mod
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Postby North German Realm » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:47 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Panslav wrote:
What graphical mod?

"In Heavens Graphics overhaul lite" (for ironman, not lite version for non ironman) with the following mods:

"Revolutionary Borders"
"Revolutionary Map Font"
"Revolutionary Tooltip"
"Revolutionary Water"

North German Realm wrote:And furthermore, how did you get the character overview to get that long? I downloaded the mod that is supposed to do it but it doesn't work.
"A Bigger Interace" mod
No I know, I dl'd and installed that but it doesn't make my bar look exactly like that. Which sucks.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:49 am

North German Realm wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:"In Heavens Graphics overhaul lite" (for ironman, not lite version for non ironman) with the following mods:

"Revolutionary Borders"
"Revolutionary Map Font"
"Revolutionary Tooltip"
"Revolutionary Water"

"A Bigger Interace" mod
No I know, I dl'd and installed that but it doesn't make my bar look exactly like that. Which sucks.

Oh then i dont know then sorry, it just works for me. It might be a conflict with another mod.
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Postby Bralia » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:53 am

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:26 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Panslav wrote:
What graphical mod?

"In Heavens Graphics overhaul lite" (for ironman, not lite version for non ironman) with the following mods:

"Revolutionary Borders"
"Revolutionary Map Font"
"Revolutionary Tooltip"
"Revolutionary Water"

North German Realm wrote:And furthermore, how did you get the character overview to get that long? I downloaded the mod that is supposed to do it but it doesn't work.
"A Bigger Interace" mod

Thats a lot of revolution for a game with no revolutions.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:15 pm

I hate defensive pacts but I'm considering turning them on just because I'm sick of all the megablobs and I feel like this might help a bit.

Tbh defensive pacts wouldn't even be necessary if the A.I. was more willing to join the defensive side in holy wars.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:48 pm

The raiding mechanic and merchant republics work really well together in CKII. First, it’s easy to make massive amounts of money by looting city holdings, which are county capitals for Republics and thus the first thing you loot. Second, if you have a merchant vassal, you can use raiding to demolish rival trading posts, giving them more space to expand. As Berber Roman emperor, that’s how my merchant vassals gained control over Mare Nostrum.
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Postby Slutsk Horde » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:54 pm


What?

Also who's sieging out Russia?
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Danubian Peoples
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Danubian Peoples » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:10 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:I'm really going to need that defensive pact question answered.. the HRE in my Maghreb game has come down on me with an embargo war and I did not like it one bit. Sure I did not lose all that much but I saw first hand multiple 20K stacks in Sardinia. Are there mods that make defensive pacts useful in a sense? Marriage alliances have failed in my game due to the enormous 'political concerns' bulls***. Like, there's this fucking HRE, Byzantium, aren't you going to do something other than stand there? And it does not help that the HRE's government is extremely conducive to realm stability. The elective system they use produces next to no civil wars by the looks of it, very different from the Byzantine house fire southeast, and for some reason anyone on the throne is guaranteed to be popular as fuck. This what I am concerened about since I am gonna be playing as a Muslim. I do not want an empire stretching from Spain to Hungary crusading my saracen ass. Please help. Should I just swallow the defensive pact pill and pray to Allah that it'll be enough to hold down the Christians? I mean even if I'm trying to knock them down pegs, by seizing their holy sites, unlanding the pope, beating them to Jerusalem they still find a way to be so absurdly powerful. I think Catholicism needs a nerf. Any mods on Steam that do that?Oh and a pic of the thing Voltaire has nightmares about.



This is what murder is for. Stab enough Emperors and the Empire goes away.

You can't stab the emperor if no one wants to stab the emperor with you. Like I said, very popular. Maybe I should just play as a Shiite and join the assasins.
EDIT: Curretnly trying to assasinate the emperor. Unfortunately despite me having over 200% plot power on him he's in hiding, so I can't do nothin'. And he has been in hiding for years now. All that happened was a costly guard bribal that failed, and a second, lest costly bribe that also failed and ratted me out.
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Postby Bralia » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:58 am

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:29 am

Slutsk Horde wrote:

What?

Also who's sieging out Russia?

Ruthenia
Pruthenia

no one got it *sad huskar noises*

Also its not Russia, its some random slavic state that blobbed a bit, and um i cant remember lol
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Postby Bralia » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:46 am

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Postby North German Realm » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:39 am


I'm actually intrigued about this. Especially the raiding, and while the succession names are a tad cringey, they're actually more loyal to history (though I thought it was "Partible succession"). I hope we get something on cultures soon.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:04 am


*Paradox Thread is Discontent*
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:09 am


I hope excommunication releases you from your contractual obligations, because that was historically what it did.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:35 am

I pretty much stopped caring about anything after I saw this picture.
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It's literally what I have been screaming for in CK2 since it came out. That is what CK needs.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:54 am


However, many realms start with a worse form, especially in 867. This is Confederate Partition, which will also create titles of your primary title’s tier if possible. So if you as Norway have conquered all of Sweden but destroyed the kingdom itself, it will get recreated on your death so that your second heir becomes an independent ruler. Tribals are typically locked to this succession type, with some exceptions.

NOOOOOOOO NOT THE GAVELKIND WORKAROUND!!!

House Seniority. A notable difference from CK2’s Seniority Succession is that under House Seniority, the oldest eligible member of your house inherits, not of your entire dynasty.

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Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Postby North German Realm » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:03 am

Purpelia wrote:I pretty much stopped caring about anything after I saw this picture.
(Image)

It's literally what I have been screaming for in CK2 since it came out. That is what CK needs.

Definitely makes things easier, I must admit.
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Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:00 pm

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