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Europa Universalis
14
13%
Victoria
17
15%
Crusader Kings
24
22%
Hearts of Iron
22
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Stellaris
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Postby Bralia » Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:10 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:I like how Bralia removed the last two thread titles from VIII :p

I just spontaneously remembered that I wanted to fix this. Don't ask me how my memory works, I don't get it either.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:16 am

Bralia wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:I like how Bralia removed the last two thread titles from VIII :p

I just spontaneously remembered that I wanted to fix this. Don't ask me how my memory works, I don't get it either.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:28 am

Bralia wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:I like how Bralia removed the last two thread titles from VIII :p

I just spontaneously remembered that I wanted to fix this. Don't ask me how my memory works, I don't get it either.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:02 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Bralia wrote:I just spontaneously remembered that I wanted to fix this. Don't ask me how my memory works, I don't get it either.

"How does memories work? It doesnt"

But did it ever?
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:55 am

Oh no
So I have a demon spawn baby. Umm, I heard he's gonna start murdering all of his siblings very soon. Fortunately I have tanistry for these kinds of occasions. Actually I don't. Tanistry is for every other way you could lose out on heirs. So, any help? I'm, scared.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:08 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:Oh no
So I have a demon spawn baby. Umm, I heard he's gonna start murdering all of his siblings very soon. Fortunately I have tanistry for these kinds of occasions. Actually I don't. Tanistry is for every other way you could lose out on heirs. So, any help? I'm, scared.


Demon kids are great, let him become your heir. You'll get witches and shit.
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Postby North German Realm » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:31 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:Oh no
So I have a demon spawn baby. Umm, I heard he's gonna start murdering all of his siblings very soon. Fortunately I have tanistry for these kinds of occasions. Actually I don't. Tanistry is for every other way you could lose out on heirs. So, any help? I'm, scared.

If your other children are useless, just let them die, I guess. Or you can just freaking give him over to be educated in another realm and/or court? Idk, I normally have no problem with my demon children until they start killing me.
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Postby Bralia » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:08 am

I don't think I've ever allowed a demon kid to live, except back when I didn't understand what they did. I kill them all immediately, the harsh penalties from doing so be damned.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:12 am

Bralia wrote:I don't think I've ever allowed a demon kid to live, except back when I didn't understand what they did. I kill them all immediately, the harsh penalties from doing so be damned.

I always knew you were an anti-demon racist.
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Postby Renoa » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:18 am

Ifreann wrote:
Bralia wrote:I don't think I've ever allowed a demon kid to live, except back when I didn't understand what they did. I kill them all immediately, the harsh penalties from doing so be damned.

I always knew you were an anti-demon racist.

This will surely hurt her polling numbers with the small but coveted demon demographic.
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:21 am

Stuff got pretty scary in my Sardinia game. So, the demon spawn's dad died at the young age of 35. I'm assuming Satan got tired of cucking him. Anyway, since none of the kids were grownups (or at least cpapable grownups, demon child incapable'd his older siblings, and the younger sibling is a baby genius) my heir was set to be a cancer-ridden cousin of mine. I unwisely usurp the kingdom of Africa as this cousin, and the tile defaults to gavelkind. Fortunately, he manages to live long enough to avert disaster by changing Africa's succession law to tanistry. Now I'm at a crossroads. Do I select the demon child as heir or his genius younger brother? Having 20+ on every stat is nice, -20 general opinion because you're breathing fire and have grown very long horns, not so much. So, which do I choose?

Also some stuff unrelated to the demon child but still in the Sardinia game.
I set up a vassal merchant republic in Kaybila. Putting out a fair some of money for my realm. Also invites Berber raiders from west Africa that make good target practice for my forces.
I have vassals in England of all places. Wrangling bloodlines will do that to 'ya.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:25 am

Renoa wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I always knew you were an anti-demon racist.

This will surely hurt her polling numbers with the small but coveted demon demographic.

The child murder they're fine with, but they just won't support racial profiling.
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Postby North German Realm » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:28 am

Bralia wrote:I don't think I've ever allowed a demon kid to live, except back when I didn't understand what they did. I kill them all immediately, the harsh penalties from doing so be damned.

If only demon children were something that could happen in a pagan realm. Iirc, they only show up in Christian, Muslim, Jewish, and (for some reason) Zoroastrian courts rip.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:01 pm

North German Realm wrote:
Bralia wrote:I don't think I've ever allowed a demon kid to live, except back when I didn't understand what they did. I kill them all immediately, the harsh penalties from doing so be damned.

If only demon children were something that could happen in a pagan realm. Iirc, they only show up in Christian, Muslim, Jewish, and (for some reason) Zoroastrian courts rip.


Zoroastrians have demons in their mythology IIRC, but I don't think demons are a thing in most of those other religions. Hellenic and Germanic could probably use substitutes given their rich mythologies. Not sure about the others, but I don't think any of the Eastern religions could.
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:54 pm

An update to Sardinia

So this is what the game looks like rn. Formed the empire of Maghreb. Was considering swearing fealty to one of the already exisisting empires then declaring a claimant war, but I decided to make my own instead. Also tanistry makes my head spin. Too many vassals have the right to vote. I've bought so maaany favors now.

EDIT: I holy war'd Alexandria away to add yet another Patriarch to our growing number of popes-but-not-popes-since-the-pope-is-first-among-equals. Also the Black Death came and slaughtered the invading army to a a measly 5000 troops. Still won though.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:32 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:An update to Sardinia

So this is what the game looks like rn. Formed the empire of Maghreb. Was considering swearing fealty to one of the already exisisting empires then declaring a claimant war, but I decided to make my own instead. Also tanistry makes my head spin. Too many vassals have the right to vote. I've bought so maaany favors now.

EDIT: I holy war'd Alexandria away to add yet another Patriarch to our growing number of popes-but-not-popes-since-the-pope-is-first-among-equals. Also the Black Death came and slaughtered the invading army to a a measly 5000 troops. Still won though.


Berber culture is insanely hard to erase. Their counties are incredibly stubborn for some odd reason. Doesn't even help to put people of your culture as vassals ruling over them because the A.I. always flips to Berber culture for some reason.

Also, how are you using Tanistry when you aren't Celtic?
Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:40 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
In the process of a massive retcon, like, massive
NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:13 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:An update to Sardinia

So this is what the game looks like rn. Formed the empire of Maghreb. Was considering swearing fealty to one of the already exisisting empires then declaring a claimant war, but I decided to make my own instead. Also tanistry makes my head spin. Too many vassals have the right to vote. I've bought so maaany favors now.

EDIT: I holy war'd Alexandria away to add yet another Patriarch to our growing number of popes-but-not-popes-since-the-pope-is-first-among-equals. Also the Black Death came and slaughtered the invading army to a a measly 5000 troops. Still won though.


Berber culture is insanely hard to erase. Their counties are incredibly stubborn for some odd reason. Doesn't even help to put people of your culture as vassals ruling over them because the A.I. always flips to Berber culture for some reason.

Also, how are you using Tanistry when you aren't Celtic?


A certain Niall 'of the Nine Hostages' whose bloodline I nabbed in my quest for 'the History is in My Blood' achievment.
Also good to know I guess, on that Berber culture thing. Y'sure about it though? CK2's wiki says nothing about cultures being resistant to conversion the way some religions can be.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:09 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Berber culture is insanely hard to erase. Their counties are incredibly stubborn for some odd reason. Doesn't even help to put people of your culture as vassals ruling over them because the A.I. always flips to Berber culture for some reason.

Also, how are you using Tanistry when you aren't Celtic?


A certain Niall 'of the Nine Hostages' whose bloodline I nabbed in my quest for 'the History is in My Blood' achievment.
Also good to know I guess, on that Berber culture thing. Y'sure about it though? CK2's wiki says nothing about cultures being resistant to conversion the way some religions can be.


Positive. I've conquered Berbers enough times with non-Berbers to know it takes forever to flip their counties, partly because half my vassals keep turning into Berbers for some reason.

Once you go Berber you can't go back, I guess.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
In the process of a massive retcon, like, massive
NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:25 am

I let a demon kid live once, in a Byzantine Empire campaign a few years ago. Tho i never played as them, i played as their Brother (father died when we were both quite young, or it might have been mother? anyway regency time then adulthood) and he caused me all sorts of problems alongside his entire side of the family. I ended up giving him a county in the middle of Anatolia, he married, had kids etc

He became a bit of a psycho and adopted Bogomilism as did his family. He then killed a few of my siblings, became my rival, his kids started fucking one another when they became adults and started having incest kids. He then tried to kill me so i tried to imprison him, he escaped, rose in rebellion. Crushed his rebel army, imprisoned him, he escaped somehow magically after being captured, then i became a tyrant when i immediately imprisoned him again without cause and executed him before he could escape or kill me, and i think i killed his whole family too.

Said executions of a bunch of people related to me pissed everyone off and the empire went through a period of mass civil war for a while till enough people got their heads knocked in by the imperial army, across two emperors because they were still mad when i died and went on to my next character. I think i posted about it on here in one of the earlier threads.

As such i typically try and kill any spawns of satan, because that was wack yo. Ive also never properly played as one either.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:10 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I let a demon kid live once, in a Byzantine Empire campaign a few years ago. Tho i never played as them, i played as their Brother (father died when we were both quite young, or it might have been mother? anyway regency time then adulthood) and he caused me all sorts of problems alongside his entire side of the family. I ended up giving him a county in the middle of Anatolia, he married, had kids etc

He became a bit of a psycho and adopted Bogomilism as did his family. He then killed a few of my siblings, became my rival, his kids started fucking one another when they became adults and started having incest kids. He then tried to kill me so i tried to imprison him, he escaped, rose in rebellion. Crushed his rebel army, imprisoned him, he escaped somehow magically after being captured, then i became a tyrant when i immediately imprisoned him again without cause and executed him before he could escape or kill me, and i think i killed his whole family too.

Said executions of a bunch of people related to me pissed everyone off and the empire went through a period of mass civil war for a while till enough people got their heads knocked in by the imperial army, across two emperors because they were still mad when i died and went on to my next character. I think i posted about it on here in one of the earlier threads.

As such i typically try and kill any spawns of satan, because that was wack yo. Ive also never properly played as one either.


I've encountered the event five times, I think. The first time I let it happen because I didn't know what would happen. Thankfully he only killed two of my kids before dying of a disease of some kind. This was back before Reaper's Due so surviving diseases was more a matter of luck.

Second time he killed all my kids and became my heir. I tried to stop it by assassinating his French maid before she committed ritual suicide, but that didn't work. When I died and he took over, everybody hated me. Got excommunicated, holy war'd into oblivion, and then assassinated.

Third time it was one of my extremely rare Muslim plays. 1337 start date, Ottomans. My half-African daughter was the one possessed. This was before Paradox let Muslim women rule anything yet that didn't stop her from offing all my fucking children anyway. Had to marry her off to the Sultan of Mauretania - as far the fuck away from me as possible. Thankfully having four wives does have it's perks.

Fourth & fifth time I just straight up used a cheat mod to kill him the minute he was born. No regrets. Demon kids aren't worth the trouble. Honestly if they'd stop offing all my kids with a snap of their fingers, it wouldn't be so intolerable. But it is because they do.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
In the process of a massive retcon, like, massive
NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:48 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Reapers Due is free on Steam till the 9th.

You too can now replicate Covid-19 in the save environment of your home pc/laptop

Slowly accruing all the CK2 DLC for free.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:17 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:An update to Sardinia

So this is what the game looks like rn. Formed the empire of Maghreb. Was considering swearing fealty to one of the already exisisting empires then declaring a claimant war, but I decided to make my own instead. Also tanistry makes my head spin. Too many vassals have the right to vote. I've bought so maaany favors now.

EDIT: I holy war'd Alexandria away to add yet another Patriarch to our growing number of popes-but-not-popes-since-the-pope-is-first-among-equals. Also the Black Death came and slaughtered the invading army to a a measly 5000 troops. Still won though.


Berber culture is insanely hard to erase. Their counties are incredibly stubborn for some odd reason. Doesn't even help to put people of your culture as vassals ruling over them because the A.I. always flips to Berber culture for some reason.

Also, how are you using Tanistry when you aren't Celtic?

Berber can raid and the AI sees the benefits of becoming an objectively superior culture over their silly prior one.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:54 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Berber culture is insanely hard to erase. Their counties are incredibly stubborn for some odd reason. Doesn't even help to put people of your culture as vassals ruling over them because the A.I. always flips to Berber culture for some reason.

Also, how are you using Tanistry when you aren't Celtic?

Berber can raid and the AI sees the benefits of becoming an objectively superior culture over their silly prior one.

Be a virgin Arab or a chad raiding Berber? Yeah, I think I am going to be a raiding Berber. Paradox AI probably.
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