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Europa Universalis
14
13%
Victoria
17
15%
Crusader Kings
24
22%
Hearts of Iron
22
20%
Stellaris
23
21%
One of those weird "published by PDX" games that nobody ever talks about here
10
9%
 
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Abserdia
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Postby Abserdia » Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:28 pm

Renoa wrote:
Port Carverton wrote:Where do the 'North Andean', 'South Andean', 'Platinian' come from? There are similarities between Colombians, Ecuadorians and Venezuelans but generally we consider ourselves differently

I've always felt that Paradox's handling of defining cultures and culture groups, especially for those in the New World, is really awkward and unsatisfying. I get that it will always have to be arbitrary to a certain degree, but it's still one of my pet peeves. One of the only decisions they've made regarding cultures that I wholeheartedly agree with was removing Texan as a separate culture in Vic3 from Vic2.

In Vicky 3, with the CotS DLC or update, the Nationalism tech splits those big S.A. cultures into the modern national identities. I'm not sure how accurate that is to the actual time and place.

Anyone in the thread an expert on 19th-century Latin American nation-building?
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Postby Immoren » Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:12 pm

I don't know why I had thought about CK3 that "if cultures are too close for hybridization to make sense you shouldn't be able to convert them neither".
Although I guess that would mean that getting along with cultures that share same heritage should be much easier.
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Postby Bralia » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:47 am

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Postby Bralia » Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:26 am

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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:29 am



This seems to indicate that a EUV -> Vicky 3 converter might be possible which would be amazing.
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Postby Bralia » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:05 am

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Postby Bralia » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:55 am

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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:02 am

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Postby Andsed » Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:17 pm

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Postby Abserdia » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:30 pm


Abolishing slavery by appealing to the planters’ convenient hatred for Belgium.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:32 pm

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The Rich Port wrote:I hate Confederate Partition so much. So so much. Let me murder my children. I'm begging you.


I think Confederate partition should be worse


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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:18 pm

Become the Crisis: Cosmogenesis, for when you want to speedrun becoming a Fallen Empire (and also wreck the galaxy/reality)

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Postby Immoren » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:10 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Immoren wrote:
I think Confederate partition should be worse


WHAT IF MY OTHER CHILDREN ARE UNWORTHY AND DESERVE DEATH.


I think non-dejure vassals should gain independence on inheritance if they dislike new ruler enough
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there


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Postby Abserdia » Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:23 pm

Black lives matter

Recommend me shoegaze and ambient music.

So long, Frank Lloyd Wright
I can't believe your song is gone so soon...
I barely learned the tune
So soon, so soon

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:04 am

I tried playing Imperator a few years back and it didnt click for me at all. Didnt enjoy it that much.
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Postby Bralia » Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:29 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I tried playing Imperator a few years back and it didnt click for me at all. Didnt enjoy it that much.

Before or after 2.0? If pre-2.0, it's probably worth giving it another shot. And secondarily, the Invictus mod is supposedly the "best" and essential way to play.

That being said, I've spent the past several years telling myself that I should get back to that game sometime and never actually doing it, so I don't have a real recommendation to back those suggestions up.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:34 am

Bralia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I tried playing Imperator a few years back and it didnt click for me at all. Didnt enjoy it that much.

Before or after 2.0? If pre-2.0, it's probably worth giving it another shot. And secondarily, the Invictus mod is supposedly the "best" and essential way to play.

That being said, I've spent the past several years telling myself that I should get back to that game sometime and never actually doing it, so I don't have a real recommendation to back those suggestions up.

No idea honestly, cant remember.
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Postby Maichuko » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:55 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I tried playing Imperator a few years back and it didnt click for me at all. Didnt enjoy it that much.

I like to go into new games blind and see how much I can understand on my own without the tutorial and was just completely lost on what to do with Imperator without looking up a guide.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:53 am

Maichuko wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I tried playing Imperator a few years back and it didnt click for me at all. Didnt enjoy it that much.

I like to go into new games blind and see how much I can understand on my own without the tutorial and was just completely lost on what to do with Imperator without looking up a guide.

Yeah i dont think i enjoyed the tutorial for that game either.
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Postby Bralia » Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:26 am

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Postby Renoa » Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:33 pm


Ughhhhh, Nationstates comes back online and Bralia gives us assigned reading as soon as it does, like a teacher who gives homework the first day back from a holiday.

Anyway, I like what I see here. I haven't played CK3 in months but After the End finally being released for it is making me want to get back in. Might splurge on any expansions I don't own next time there's a sale.
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Postby Abserdia » Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:45 pm

Maichuko wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I tried playing Imperator a few years back and it didnt click for me at all. Didnt enjoy it that much.

I like to go into new games blind and see how much I can understand on my own without the tutorial and was just completely lost on what to do with Imperator without looking up a guide.

Imperator is a very intimidating game, but unfortunately it didn’t spec its intimidation points very well.
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Recommend me shoegaze and ambient music.

So long, Frank Lloyd Wright
I can't believe your song is gone so soon...
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Postby Pointy Shark » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:16 pm

It warms my heart to enjoy Hearts of Iron IV again. Put a lot of hours in back during the first 3 or 4 expansions, stopped playing it for a few years excluding a few attempts to get back into it, and now I've been putting a good amount of hours into it again. The way the "meta" changed over the years took a bit to get used to, but thanks to a few youtubers I learned how to somewhat properly build divisions, and with RT56 being a great albeit annoyingly chaotic mod I am succeeding without cheats or cheese way more than I would have been.
The best part of the evolution of the game? More so than any DLC addition or jump in QOL is the fact I don't feel obligated to make only <20, 20, and 40 width divisions nor do I have to slap Engineers and Recon on every template.

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Postby Danternoust » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:59 pm

It’s quite fun financing Poland’s military with infantry equipment and artillery as Germany, bleeding the Red Army white. Sure this means I can only occupy Western Europe, but then I control Gibraltar instead of Baku. It is an interesting geopolitical trade off and it leaves the Reich much stronger for the theoretical Cold War or even limited war that would result.

Ah, victory points, increasingly irrelevant.

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